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F&G conversion bags
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Post# 434857   11/12/2020 at 10:17 by JGarvey (Wrightstown, NJ)        

Guys, what bags do I need for a classic iii with an F&G conversion? Thanks!!

Post# 434868 , Reply# 1   11/12/2020 at 11:18 by KestinFox (Renton/Washington)        
It depends!

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What it comes down to is your budget and how you want to use the machine.
Is it going to be a show piece? Or will it be put to use?
In either case, you will need a new outer cloth bag, bag top wire, and bag top cover, since the cloth F&G conversion bag you have probably won't fit any of the genuine Kirby parts. I say probably because you might be able to get it to fit, but it's highly unlikely.
If it's going to be put on display, I'd recommend using the dump bag system since it's a bit cheaper but still looks very nice. The dump (or shakeout) bag system has a short zipper near the middle of the cloth bag, with no disposable paper bag inside.
If it's going to be put to work, I'd recommend using the disposable dirt bag system. This will require the full-length zipper bag, mini-emptor, fill tube, and a fill tube adapter - 'F' style or otherwise - plus the disposable dirt bag inside the outer cloth bag.
The dirt bag can be either paper or cloth HEPA, but I'd recommend the HEPA bags since no one likes to breathe vacuum-agitated dust. Kirby makes wonderful HEPA-filtration dirt bags, though there are cheap ones on Amazon if that's a concern. Personally, I like genuine and have never had an issue with Kirby bags.
The other, absolute bare-bones option is to just get the fill tube and fill tube adapter, then zip tie the fill tube to the end of the F&G nozzle at the bottom of the existing bag. That way you change literally nothing on the machine and get the ability to use Kirby bags in it again, for next to nothing. It's not great, but it works!

Post# 434871 , Reply# 2   11/12/2020 at 11:32 by JGarvey (Wrightstown, NJ)        

Thank you for your quick response. However, I probably shouldíve been more specific. I already have a classic iii with the F&Gconversion done to it. The bag on the inside is full but I canít tell what kind of bag it is to replace it with. Eventually Iím going to convert it back to factory. Have it all shined up and make it look like a showpiece. As of right now, Iím using it and I want to put a new bag on the inside. I just donít know what bag to get.

Post# 434872 , Reply# 3   11/12/2020 at 11:32 by KestinFox (Renton/Washington)        
And I might have misread

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Reading back over your message, I realize you're asking about bags specifically. Do you mean the outer cloth bag or the inner disposable bag?
Because the disposable bag is an F&G style bag. Lots of companies make them.


Post# 434888 , Reply# 4   11/12/2020 at 15:50 by dysonman1 (Rolla, MO)        

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That's a Eureka F & G disposable bag (which is why the F and G in the name). Buy the Eureka bags (they make HEPA cloth disposable bags in the F & G platform now).

Post# 434889 , Reply# 5   11/12/2020 at 16:12 by VacTec2 (The Boiler Room Of Hell)        
its in the name haha

Yeah... theyre eureka F&G bags. you can get hepa versions of them too

Post# 434910 , Reply# 6   11/13/2020 at 01:13 by rivstg1 (colorado springs)        

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Thanks for the info on HEPA style F&G bags! I didn't know that! I have a Royal or two with that set up, and now I'll get some HEPA for it! I find the airflow stays strong so much longer than the original paper bags

PS: all I can find on Amazon is 'micro lined' or micro filtration ... I don't believe those are as effective as true HEPA, if anyone has a link/source for some, I'd appreciate it

Post# 434917 , Reply# 7   11/13/2020 at 09:00 by dysonman1 (Rolla, MO)        

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If you go to Amazon or Ebay, type in Vacuum America Clean Eureka F & G Hepa bags. You should find them. Also known as V.A.C 14 There are 9 in a package. Even the throat of the bag is made out of Hepa cloth and not paper.

Post# 435234 , Reply# 8   11/19/2020 at 12:56 by rivstg1 (colorado springs)        
can't find it dysonman1

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couldn't find them....realized I had 'saved' them though in a wish list a long time ago on amazon, but they show unavailable which explains why a search for them showed no results

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Post# 435236 , Reply# 9   11/19/2020 at 13:12 by Hoover78 (dallas tx)        
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Post# 435269 , Reply# 10   11/19/2020 at 19:47 by fan-of-fans (USA)        

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I've always used the Arm & Hammer F&G bags in mine. They don't smell for a long time and for paper bags the filtration seems fine, especially since it's inside the outer cloth bag anyway.

The HEPA ones are interesting though. Depending on the price I may try them sometime.

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