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Thread Number: 40799
/ Tag: 50s/60s/70s Vacuum Cleaners
Lux 1205 |
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| Post# 433460 10/13/2020 at 13:12 (1,283 days old) by Kirboover (Watertown, South Dakota) | ||
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| Post# 433463 , Reply# 1 10/13/2020 at 13:43 (1,283 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
Both are correct. Earlier ones, made in 1968 and '69 had the PN1 while the later ones, stating in about 1970, had the PN2. There were also a couple of different hose and wand setups. Both of my 1205's are 1969 models; one came with a PN1 and a Canadian style teal pistol grip hose, which is different from the later gray pistol grip hoses, and the rare telescoping wand. The other one did not come with a power nozzle at all and had a leaky teal non-powered hose. I had the pleasure of putting a power nozzle on it for the first time about four years ago. Some PN1's were permanently attached to a color coordinating plastic wand but I believe those were for earlier model machines.
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| Post# 433468 , Reply# 2 10/13/2020 at 15:33 (1,283 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
This is the first model of 1205 from 1968. No dusting brush clip, no electric hose, power nozzle with attached wand, serial number engraved into the underside of the bumper, round bag lock out switch.
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| Post# 433800 , Reply# 5 10/19/2020 at 17:30 (1,277 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
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Family vac...
That's very cool that you have a vacuum that's been in your family since new. My 1205 has been in our family since my dad snagged off of a neighbor's curbside trash pile in about 1980 or '81. It was a base model with no power nozzle and no powered tools but it had all of the other tools with it. The hose leaked like a sieve, which I did not understand at the time. It baffled me why it had great suction straight out of the machine and almost none from the end of the hose. Surprisingly, they held onto it when they moved from Raleigh to Charlotte in 1997 and I found it in their attic in 2016. I refitted it with a good vinyl hose, a teal pigtail style wand and PN2 and it's like an entirely different machine.
My other one came from Goodwill in about 2004 and has a power nozzle with a rare teal pistol grip hose and Canadian style telescoping wand. I use the two pretty much interchangeably. Although the powered teal hose and PN1 are now pretty much retired, I do still use the telescoping wand. | ||
| Post# 433814 , Reply# 6 10/19/2020 at 21:35 (1,276 days old) by Kirboover (Watertown, South Dakota) | ||
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Family Too | ||
| Post# 433850 , Reply# 8 10/20/2020 at 10:44 (1,276 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
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PN3...
I've often wondered the same thing. I've heard anecdotally—and possibly apocryphally—on this site that the PN3 was a variant of the PN2, used for Electrolux's commercial vacuums of the era. The '3' supposedly refers to a third ground lead, which would have been required for commercial applications. Of course, that begs the question of whether anybody has actually seen one of these beasts in the wild.
For what it's worth, I really like the PN2's refined design far better than the very similar PN4/4A, which seems to have fallen victim to sacrifices made for manufacturing efficiency at the expense of performance. Although all PN2s had beautiful polished aluminum cases, there are two minor color variants of the PN2: teal or white necks with color coordinating rollers underneath. The teal necks are the earlier variant and would have been included with the 1205s, although I have seen some with 50th anniversary stickers on them, indicating they would have shipped with the Golden Anniversary 1205s. The necks switched over to white during this 'golden' era and would have been shipped with the aforementioned golden anniversary models as well as early Super J machines. Later Super Js shipped with polished PN4s, as did some early Olympia One units before they made the unfortunate decision to start painting them chocolate brown and then Silverado gray. The PN5 "Omniflow" power nozzles were introduced late in the Silverado's run. | ||
| Post# 433933 , Reply# 14 10/21/2020 at 23:21 (1,274 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA) | ||
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I think...... it's a brush/armature thing to be honest. I'd thoroughly test the armature, put in new brushes if it pasts the test, use a brush stone on the commutator and I'd bet it will quit...if not, time for another motor. I've got new armatures somewhere too in boxes.....might warrant that from the get go. Kevin | ||
| Post# 433949 , Reply# 15 10/22/2020 at 09:00 (1,274 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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The carbon brushes are urged against the commutator by the spring behind the brush. When enough carbon brush dust accumulates in the carbon brush shunt (tube), it makes it difficult for the brush to 'slide forward', cause the change in the rpm of the motor as one brush makes good contact but the other doesn't make the same good contact. Remove the brushes from the shunts and clean the brush shunts with alcohol and q-tips. You'll be amazed at how much carbon dust you'll remove. Once reassembled and the carbon brushes seated with a seating stone, you'll be fine.
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