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Post# 432438   9/24/2020 at 15:45 (1,280 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        

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I am rewiring my antique brilliant cleaner, and the wiring on it was very messed up. Only one wire was going into the motor, which pretty much everything tells me is wrong. It also has this weird rubber, metal covered box thing that a wire goes into and comes back out of. Mr. Gasko, could you post a picture of the motor wiring on yours so I have a guideline? Thank you!

Post# 432620 , Reply# 1   9/27/2020 at 11:49 (1,278 days old) by johnnyb59c (13240 n 3980 rd dewey oklahoma)        
you have pics?

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show me what you have please

Post# 432645 , Reply# 2   9/27/2020 at 19:20 (1,277 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        

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I can Wednesday, its the diamond shaped one in the video I sent ya

Post# 432654 , Reply# 3   9/27/2020 at 20:41 (1,277 days old) by johnnyb59c (13240 n 3980 rd dewey oklahoma)        
video?

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when and where did you send it?

Post# 432662 , Reply# 4   9/27/2020 at 21:49 (1,277 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        

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Your email, a few months ago when I first got it. Couldn't run it though due to the electrical issues and me not wanting to get shocked or worse.

Post# 432663 , Reply# 5   9/27/2020 at 21:56 (1,277 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        

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Wait, just remembered I have a couple old pics here. None of the wiring though, that will have to wait until Wednesday.

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Post# 432693 , Reply# 6   9/28/2020 at 09:55 (1,277 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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Yes - the "Diamond". I do have one and will post pics very soon.

Post# 432698 , Reply# 7   9/28/2020 at 10:28 (1,277 days old) by johnnyb59c (13240 n 3980 rd dewey oklahoma)        
ok-

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I remember now.

Post# 432858 , Reply# 8   9/30/2020 at 16:34 (1,274 days old) by Dysonman1 (the county)        

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Stupid vacuum land glitch turns my pictures to the side when I post them from my iPhone

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Post# 432875 , Reply# 9   9/30/2020 at 21:06 (1,274 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)        

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What a neat old machine. The motor will only have two wires going to it, are you having trouble routing the wires, or what?

Post# 432876 , Reply# 10   9/30/2020 at 21:14 (1,274 days old) by johnnyb59c (13240 n 3980 rd dewey oklahoma)        
wow-

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never seen anything like that before. looks different than the video


Post# 432921 , Reply# 11   10/1/2020 at 17:04 (1,273 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        

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Looks like mine is different, or has had this box added on afterward. I think it was after, as the terminals had tape, the wiring was super confusing, and it has had at least one screw replaced, indicating it was taken apart at some point. It only had one wire going in, had 3 coming out of the stator(2 of which were brush wires). One of the brush wires(not the brushes themselves) came right out of the stator as well, so there are only 2 left. I may have to have it rewound. What might this box thing do? I has 2 wires coming out, and one terminal soldered to it. The inside is like a rubber insulation.

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Post# 432939 , Reply# 12   10/2/2020 at 00:03 (1,273 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)        

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Honestly I'm still confused. The box could be a suppression capacitor added later, or some weird thing to make it a two speed motor. Not sure. The box doesn't seem to have any mounting that I can see in the picture.

Post# 432944 , Reply# 13   10/2/2020 at 09:11 (1,273 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        
It does

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A screw and spacer on one side, and it bolts under the motor on the bolt-peg for the other. It had writing on it at one point, but that went away when the vacuum started to rust. The screw doesn't seem in place though, as the only other place where actual screws are used are for the switch mount. Otherwise it is bolt pegs and nuts.

Post# 432945 , Reply# 14   10/2/2020 at 09:24 (1,273 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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People didn't really have radios during the 'teens' (1910 - 1920) when that was a new machine. So I don't think it's a radio static suppressor. Is your machine rated at 120 volts? There were many farms that used 32 volts then, could it have been a voltage converter? Also, half this country used DC and the other half used AC. it's possible it's an AC - DC converter.

Post# 432952 , Reply# 15   10/2/2020 at 11:08 (1,273 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        
Possibly

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It is rated for Ac 110.

Post# 432985 , Reply# 16   10/2/2020 at 21:26 (1,272 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)        

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It can't be a voltage converter, per se. Meaning it is not big enough to be a transformer. Though, it would be some kind of wiring device to 'convert' voltage by rerouting the field and brush wires... or something, idk.


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