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Thread Number: 40685
/ Tag: 80s/90s Vacuum Cleaners
Electrolux Diamond Jubilee needs new brushes |
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Post# 432330 , Reply# 5 9/23/2020 at 07:47 (1,309 days old) by Kloveland  (Tulsa) |
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Post# 432331 , Reply# 6 9/23/2020 at 07:48 (1,309 days old) by Kloveland (Tulsa) |
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| Post# 432335 , Reply# 7 9/23/2020 at 08:18 (1,309 days old) by s31463221 (Frenchburg, KY) | ||
Steve
I looked at Kenny's link....if you scroll down to the comments, someone asked if these would fit a Diamond Jubilee, and the answer was Yes.... Hope that helps!
Steve
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| Post# 432806 , Reply# 10 9/29/2020 at 17:48 (1,303 days old) by chafer444 (Morristown TN) | ||
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I ordered the brushes from the above link and I'm not sure they're right. I posted a photo of one of the old brushes and the new ones I ordered. The old one has a sleeve with place for a wire that connects to the motor. The new brush doesn't so it doesn't appear this will work. Any suggestions? | ||
| Post# 432810 , Reply# 12 9/29/2020 at 18:19 (1,302 days old) by chafer444 (Morristown TN) | ||
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Jon I wondered about that too. I sent an email to the website to see what they say. I hope I get a reply. Some website show only the brush and spring which makes it appear possible. What a rule, I can only post one time in 30 minutes. Steve | ||
| Post# 432873 , Reply# 15 9/30/2020 at 20:21 (1,301 days old) by blknblu (CT) | ||
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Please take a picture of the motor. I have several DJ's (in storage right now) The set you received fits an Electro Motor style Electrolux motor. Motors from Super J up can fit this model. | ||
| Post# 432924 , Reply# 17 10/1/2020 at 19:21 (1,300 days old) by blknblu (CT) | ||
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I found some old pics. These are from my two Diamond Jubilee's whuch have two different motors. I believe what you have in your machine is the motor on the left. The one on the right is the Electro Motor style with the plastic cap.
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| Post# 432925 , Reply# 18 10/1/2020 at 20:25 (1,300 days old) by chafer444 (Morristown TN) | ||
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I believe you're right, it is the motor on the left. The things that hold the brushes in place look like the one I have. It also has the number 6780 on it. Do you know the name of that motor or it's model number? Steve | ||
| Post# 432940 , Reply# 20 10/2/2020 at 05:12 (1,300 days old) by chafer444 (Morristown TN) | ||
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Yes I saw that post and spoke to Helwig. To be certain this was the right part they wanted the part number of the motor which I didn't have. They also have a $25 minimum charge when ordering. So you can't just order two brushes for $12. Steve | ||
| Post# 433038 , Reply# 23 10/4/2020 at 00:20 (1,298 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA) | ||
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That motor..... on the right looks like a Lamb motor. They were often subbed in by dealers. I used to restore Diamond J's specifically and never saw an original DJ with the motor on the right. Don't wanna start a war...just sayin'.... Kevin | ||
| Post# 433709 , Reply# 27 10/18/2020 at 08:59 (1,284 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA) | ||
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I used to buy..... brushes on eBay for that motor. Maybe even from one of the vacuum shops. Anyway it wasn't an issue but I haven't rebuilt a DJ in about 5yrs. Glad you found a solution. Kevin | ||
| Post# 433711 , Reply# 28 10/18/2020 at 09:35 (1,284 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
That's the irony of replacement parts...
Yeah, it's kind of ironic that entire machines can often be found far cheaper than individual parts. I guess why there always seem to be machines being parted out on eBay. This past summer, I walked away from a Kirby Sentria at Goodwill because even though it was inexpensively priced, the replacement parts to put it to rights were prohibitively costly. It's a bit of a twist that the $9 thrift find will will become the daily driver, so to speak, allowing the Diamond J to potentially become a parts donor for the for the Marquise as needed.
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| Post# 434334 , Reply# 32 10/28/2020 at 20:28 (1,273 days old) by chafer444 (Morristown TN) | ||
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The body of the DJ and Marquis are about the same condition actually. My cousin found a Silverado at the dump and it works just fine. The body has rust places and the cord was repaired with electrical tape. That might be why someone got rid of it. Does the Silverado and DJ use the same motor? Steve | ||
| Post# 434342 , Reply# 33 10/29/2020 at 08:03 (1,273 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 434359 , Reply# 36 10/29/2020 at 18:56 (1,272 days old) by chafer444 (Morristown TN) | ||
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Thanks for the additional info on the motors. Steve | ||
| Post# 434368 , Reply# 37 10/29/2020 at 22:53 (1,272 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA) | ||
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You're..... welcome. And for some more weirdness....all the motors in Electrolux Canada tanks were stronger than their US counterparts. Up until the 90's when Electrolux merged the two factions(and not for the better). Kevin | ||
| Post# 434431 , Reply# 38 11/1/2020 at 00:27 (1,270 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA) | ||
The brushes and their metal sleeves look nearly identical to me. Will the metal sleeves fit in the plastic holders? Is everything the same dimensions? I feel like everyone may be overlooking a very simple solution.
The old brushes have a wire on them, but the wire appears to be a tiny pigtail, with a female spade connector on each end. All other things being equal, the only difference would be the manner of electrical connection. Apparently, the spade connector on the brush sleeve is somewhat of an anomaly. Perhaps a different supplier, oddball in-between revisions thing, or aftermarket. Looking at the terrible photograph on the seller's website, the lower brush in the picture looks to have two tiny holes on the bottom left hand side of the picture. Those look like holes for a small gauge wire to be fed through and soldered on. That's what it looks like to my eye, anyway. Mind you the picture is awful. So if these brush & sleeve assemblies fit the bill every other which way, solder some wire in there and boom, you're done. | ||
| Post# 434438 , Reply# 39 11/1/2020 at 09:46 (1,270 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA) | ||
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Sorry..... I don't have a DJ on the bench to restore right now. I'm not taking apart my DD Diamond J or I could end this debate/query right now. Here is a pic showing what the larger Super J brushes look like and either a G brush set or a possible Diamond J set.....don't remember Kevin
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| Post# 434439 , Reply# 40 11/1/2020 at 09:50 (1,270 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA) | ||
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You..... can't solder the braided wire onto/into brush carbon, of course. Looks like they drill a hole and shove the wire into it somehow....never seen the process done. Kevin | ||
| Post# 434440 , Reply# 41 11/1/2020 at 09:57 (1,270 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA) | ||
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Often..... more questions than answers.... Kevin CLICK HERE TO GO TO Real1shep's LINK | ||
| Post# 434455 , Reply# 42 11/1/2020 at 15:18 (1,270 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA) | ||
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| Post# 434461 , Reply# 44 11/1/2020 at 17:48 (1,269 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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| Post# 434499 , Reply# 45 11/2/2020 at 22:55 (1,268 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA) | ||
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I mean, I'm with you there, Kevin. But apparently no one else is. I don't really know anything about these particular brush assemblies, but I *have* seen one type that is not possible to replace just the brush in the sleeve without destroying it. I was just offering general advice, in case these were something like that.
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| Post# 434508 , Reply# 46 11/3/2020 at 09:36 (1,268 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA) | ||
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Thanks..... MM, but I just don't remember on the Diamond J....if the brushes are integral with the holders as a unit. Been some yrs since I was in one, but I don't remember this as an issue. If they were unobtainium or a real hassle to get, seems like I would remember it. Kevin | ||
| Post# 434726 , Reply# 47 11/8/2020 at 18:16 (1,262 days old) by blknblu (CT) | ||
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Wen through some old files, found this. This is from a few years back. Posting it to help future posts. This information is no longer on the Helwig Carbon site.
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| Post# 434745 , Reply# 48 11/9/2020 at 08:52 (1,262 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA) | ||
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The brushes..... I pictured on the left, up above, are very close to those measurements. So I'm guessing they are probably for a G. But it's the same design and were available as little as five yrs ago. Thanks for posting the brush specs for Diamond J. Now, if we can find a source, we can put this thread to rest. Kevin | ||
| Post# 434772 , Reply# 49 11/9/2020 at 22:07 (1,261 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA) | ||
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