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Thread Number: 40679
/ Tag: 50s/60s/70s Vacuum Cleaners
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Post# 432234 9/21/2020 at 18:16 (1,310 days old) by rivstg1  (colorado springs) |
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My first memory of our family vacuum cleaner was a 1205 Electrolux but I don't remember much after that ( curiously odd to my mind, that fact). My friend, who've I've referenced many times here is a vacuum technician since the 1970's with emphasis on Kirby's as well. He closed his doors this month and gave me several vacs....this model G among them. I"m not a big fan of tanks or canisters, for the most part, even though I own several, but I dig old stuff, as most of you all do as well. This was too nice to trash, so I took it, cleaning the plastic and metal...some good polishing etc, but there is a little plastic repair needed as I seem some cracks on the white power nozzle wand, I"ll get that soon.
So many here think so highly of these older Electrolux's, I had to share it. It works well with no bearing noises....but I still feel the suction /airflow is lacking as I was using a upholstery brush to clean up a mess on my couch. :-/ Thats why I was inquiring about HEPA bags for this machine on a different thread....hoping to keep what airflow it has longer....than a paper bag would. I saw a gold one of these last year at a Thrift shop but I didn't want it bad enough, even though it presented quite well....no accessories. Blue I am a sucker for...and FREE, so I couldn't say no! right?? | ||
| Post# 432237 , Reply# 1 9/21/2020 at 18:57 (1,310 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
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| Post# 432238 , Reply# 2 9/21/2020 at 19:36 (1,310 days old) by Electroluxxxx (……) | ||
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Such a wonderful machine and an early one too, awesome score! Free is definitely a word that’s worth a lot and aids very well in ones impulses. | ||
| Post# 432240 , Reply# 3 9/21/2020 at 20:08 (1,310 days old) by detroitdirtbag (Bottom of the Bag) | ||
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| Post# 432248 , Reply# 5 9/21/2020 at 22:39 (1,310 days old) by kirbyklekter (Concord,Ca.) | ||
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I'm glad you kept it They did come out with a bigger motor later in the run, I think when the brown G model was released. I have an AF and switching to an all vinyl hose made all the difference in the world. Nice price, hard to beat free! | ||
| Post# 432264 , Reply# 6 9/22/2020 at 09:02 (1,309 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA) | ||
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Actually...... the bronze G started with a stronger motor....distinguished by different color brush holders. Physically, I don't think the motor was 'bigger'. The bigger motor came with the advent of the Super J. Kevin | ||
| Post# 432282 , Reply# 8 9/22/2020 at 13:35 (1,309 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
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Yes, those early PN1's were permanently attached to the wand. Not a great design, IMO. And I'll second what Jon said about the hose. No matter now nice it looks, if it's leaking, it's worthless except as a display piece. The rubber inside deteriorates and gets sucked into the bag and there's really little you can do about it. Kinda sucks (no pun intended) but there you have it. I have a couple of aftermarket electrified hoses with for 1205 and later canisters and have had very little trouble from them. The worst problem I've experienced has been the screws on the underside of the handle coming loose but that is easily solved with slightly larger screws (both length and diameter) that get a better bite into the plastic. The sliding suction control on top of the handle is also a less than ideal design feature but one of those thick, small diameter rubber bands off of a head of broccoli or a stalk of celery is a simple and effective fix.
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Post# 432284 , Reply# 9 9/22/2020 at 13:43 (1,309 days old) by rivstg1 (colorado springs) |
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thanks all
I did the test Jon suggested, there wasn't a difference on airflow from the housing opening and the hose end. But, that is with me pushing the housing lid close manually. The photos show there is a slight opening/not sealing.....is this a common problem? Easy remedy? That gap seems to be the only air leak...the hose is fine after inspection and testing suction.
Also, the cracking is at the back base of the PN as shown in the photo, I just don't want it to get worse by breaking off. I guess the 4 ply paper bags are my only choice for better filtration unless I manually crafted a bag together | ||
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Post# 432285 , Reply# 10 9/22/2020 at 13:47 (1,309 days old) by rivstg1 (colorado springs) |
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| Post# 432292 , Reply# 11 9/22/2020 at 14:49 (1,309 days old) by detroitdirtbag (Bottom of the Bag) | ||
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| Post# 432295 , Reply# 12 9/22/2020 at 15:00 (1,309 days old) by Chris (WV) | ||
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HEPA Bags Onlinevacshop.com has style c 100 pack hepa bags for $57 or pack of 9 for $14 | ||
| Post# 432298 , Reply# 14 9/22/2020 at 15:58 (1,309 days old) by Detroitdirtbag (Bottom of the Bag) | ||
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Post# 432316 , Reply# 16 9/22/2020 at 21:35 (1,309 days old) by rivstg1 (colorado springs) |
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I'm not at home for 2 days so I can't check some of things that were offered to me on this issue. I do know the paper bag was basically new and the cardboard was rigid. The motor doesn't sound bad at all on the wind down either. I thought of a seal being the issue since you can see the photos I provided with me pushing on the door/lid so that the metal is flush touching...vs when I didn't and there was a gap. I will inspect it further though Thursday night!
@chris, thanks for the info on bags...those are HEPA and not the 4 ply? | ||
| Post# 432327 , Reply# 17 9/23/2020 at 04:25 (1,308 days old) by Chris (WV) | ||
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At least thats was it says It says they are h10 5 layer HEPA bags. They look like cloth bags in the pic. Im going to order some myself. | ||
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Post# 432332 , Reply# 18 9/23/2020 at 08:09 (1,308 days old) by Kloveland (Tulsa) |
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I would disassemble it and check the motor and gasket. The fans may also need to be washed. The motor could also be running slow and need new carbon brushes. When I get a new canister I usually disassemble it to the motor and blow out the motor and fans with my air compressor. Usually dust flies everywhere. Most canister motors are usually extremely filthy.
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Post# 432634 , Reply# 21 9/27/2020 at 16:31 (1,304 days old) by rivstg1 (colorado springs) |
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after looking at this again, I see no problem as to why its not sealing better. Why would that gap be there in-between the housing and the door, yet, when I force that lid/door all the way to the housing, the suction loss increases.
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| Post# 432733 , Reply# 24 9/28/2020 at 19:14 (1,303 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX) | ||
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Here’s pictures of mine Here’s a picture of me pointing to the gasket to make sure you have and also the normal gap when the bag door is closed. | ||
| Post# 432743 , Reply# 25 9/28/2020 at 20:14 (1,303 days old) by Detroitdirtbag (Bottom of the Bag) | ||
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Post# 432829 , Reply# 26 9/29/2020 at 23:05 (1,302 days old) by rivstg1 (colorado springs) |
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here's more of a look
I don't have another bag yet, so I can't test that. See from the photos...is this G missing anything that would help it to seal better?
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