Thread Number: 40522
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Electrolux Model E Automatic questions |
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Post# 430467 , Reply# 1   8/23/2020 at 12:43 (1,333 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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First of all, Welcome.
The reason the cord winder doesn't fit is that its not for that model. There are two models that it rightly belongs to. The postwar XXX, 1949-1952, and the early LX of 1952-53. After 1953 the cord winder was painted hammertone blue and had minor changes. Yes, it will work, but will not be a good fit and might be a bit wobbly. Still, I see nothing wrong with this winder, or the Electrolux, both are stunning. There are several members who know the history of the cord winder far better than I do, and no doubt will chime in, giving you the information you desire. As I said, you have a stunning Electrolux, enjoy it. |
Post# 430471 , Reply# 2   8/23/2020 at 13:39 (1,333 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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Post# 430488 , Reply# 4   8/23/2020 at 15:52 (1,333 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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The E automatic followed on the heels of the model LX which was the first to pop open the front cover when the bag needed to be emptied. While the model LX was quite impressive and took the process a bit further, actually ejecting the bag, which were called wrappers at the time as they wrapped the dirt like a package. The idea, while a good one, added weight to the machine and the model E automatic was the replacement. As to the cord winder, that was optional equipment. What was on the back of the machine (blower) was what was called a 'halo,' and the cord was wrapped around it. This accounts for the screw holes by your winder. The E automatic changed the cleaning tools from the basic style that went back to the model XI (11) in 1927-1930, and became the combination rug/floor tool, and the dusting brush/upholstery tool. The wands were changed too, from heavy steel to lightweight aluminum.
What you have is a powerful machine, with the same motor as the models XXX and LX, but lightweight and easy to lift and carry. This Electrolux dates back to 1956 or thereabouts. And if you want the manual, I'm sure they are out there. The closest I recommend is the model L, which can be downloaded from the library section of the VL homepage. If you want further info. I'll guide you to a long-running thread that went into the early Electrolux tools and their tools. Its quite an impressive thread. Alex.
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Post# 430492 , Reply# 5   8/23/2020 at 16:19 (1,333 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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Hi VimmCo:
Here is a pic with without the cord winder, the halo with the cord wrapped instead. Alex.
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Post# 430518 , Reply# 7   8/23/2020 at 23:18 (1,332 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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Those are the thumb screw and two lugs that hold the winder in place. I suspect you did nothing wrong, they broke due to age, they are between 68 and 72 years old. Cord winders are common on eBay, so are the instruction books, or if you want to go with the halo, they should be out there too. As I said earlier, the correct winder is hammertone blue, if your a purist like I am and want it accurate to the period, that's easy, eBay should have what you want for a reasonable price.
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Post# 430530 , Reply# 9   8/24/2020 at 08:06 (1,332 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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Post# 430531 , Reply# 10   8/24/2020 at 08:27 (1,332 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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Hi VimmCo.
There is a winder in chrome on eBay. You may have to alter the female plug and wire it to the cleaner, but no problem. The model E, and E-Automatic were the first models with an attached cord, the V, XI, XII, XXX, XX, LX, and LXI all had detachable cords. Yes, what you want is the type T. Yours has a replacement plug, the original was a standard Belden plug, and these were always black. I hope you get it. |
Post# 430544 , Reply# 11   8/24/2020 at 15:03 (1,332 days old) by VimmCo (Atlanta)   |   | |
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Ah I see I'll have a look, though for now to my surprise my fit worked. The screw is now a bit longer but it certainly works!
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Post# 430563 , Reply# 12   8/24/2020 at 20:00 (1,332 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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In looking closely at the first 4 pics, the cord winder was on up-side down, I thought something was wrong. The thumb screw should be on top so they move the two hooks upward and lock the winder to the blower. The round thing that the small cord is attached to, should be on the bottom. I think you have the correct setting in the latest pic. Looks like you solved your problem. I'm very happy for you. Now put that great Model E-Automatic to good use.
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Post# 430598 , Reply# 14   8/25/2020 at 09:50 (1,331 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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You are very welcome my friend. Electrolux is my favorite, the model LX, my all-time favorite of any vacuum. My interest is the history of all vacuums, and I've done extensive research of three companies. Electrolux, Hoover, and Kirby. The winder was part of the products designed for the post-war model XXX and were introduced between 1948 and 1949. They were the air powered polisher, garment aire-bag, cord winder, ride on tool holder called the Companion, dust brush and wall brush with white bristles, and assorted waxes, carpet shampoo, and so on. The history of Electrolux is indeed a fascinating one, but the years just before, and right after WW11, are the most interesting. If you, or anyone else for that matter want to know this history, feel free to message me.
Alex Taber.
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Post# 430626 , Reply# 16   8/25/2020 at 16:06 (1,331 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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Hi Jon:
This is the case with me. Being a purist I can't stand using my model LX without the correct hose, which, as you said has zero suction. For cleaning I'm reduced to a vinyl hose, and grumble about it. For pictures it must be the original hose from 1952. Never tried the latex treatment, but who knows? I may get another hose and try it. |
Post# 430634 , Reply# 18   8/25/2020 at 17:50 (1,331 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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Hi Vimm:
For me, the interest goes back even further, to 1952 or 1953 in fact. I was between two and three years old. A friend of my grandmother had bought a model LX and I was hanging around her house. On Saturdays I'd help her (holding the cord) and one day I watched it eject. I roared with laughter. It was a turning point. I was hooked on vacuum cleaners, they were the the focal point in my life. And may I add that I now have the very LX that started it all. Yes, this ladies husband shipped it to me after her death. Any reason it's my daily driver? |
Post# 430758 , Reply# 20   8/27/2020 at 10:15 (1,329 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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Hi Vimm:
Just read this. Her name was Jannette, she lived next door to us, and was perhaps the most important person in my life. She was born in Pittsburg in 1904, and became a collage professor. In 1947, she and her husband moved to Connecticut and she became a 2nd grade school teacher. She had a way with children. We spent many hours together as I helped her vacuum the house as the years went by. She knew my love of that Electrolux. When I joined Electrolux in 1968 I tried to sell her a 1205. No way, she kept her LX! What I did not know was that she made it clear, that LX was to be willed to me. |