Thread Number: 40326
/ Tag: Recent Vacuum Cleaners from past 20 years
Which is better? Bagged or Bagless |
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Post# 428335 , Reply# 1   7/9/2020 at 08:40 (1,358 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 428337 , Reply# 2   7/9/2020 at 08:49 (1,358 days old) by Tseg (World Traveller)   |   | |
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Bagged. Period. |
Post# 428340 , Reply# 3   7/9/2020 at 09:23 (1,358 days old) by JustJunque (Western MA)   |   | |
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Post# 428346 , Reply# 4   7/9/2020 at 11:11 (1,358 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)   |   | |
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I will never comprehend why anyone thinks a bagless, plasticrap machine that is so labor intensive to keep clean and working properly is in any way superior to swapping out a filter bag in about 30 seconds without getting filthy from head to toe.
It appears the industry as a whole decided that it was more profitable to forego the revenue stream of consumable supplies (i.e., filter bags) and instead foist off inferior bagless machines with filters that would clog quickly and that consumers would never keep clean, thus creating an absurdly short lifespan and endless rapid replacement cycle. And you know what? The general public unquestioningly bought into it, leaving behind well made vintage machines designed to last decades for cheap plasticrap that would require replacing every two or three years, thus transforming the vacuum cleaner from a durable goods purchase to a short-term consumable. And don't even get me started on the circuit boards! |
Post# 428368 , Reply# 5   7/9/2020 at 16:19 (1,358 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)   |   | |
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I am so sorry for your loss.
Bagless vacuums are generally less convenient to use than bagged machines, and it is more difficult for a manufacturer to make a good bagless machine than it is for them to make a good bagged machine. Both of the machines that you inherited will likely clog decently quickly, resulting in them requiring frequent maintenance. I used to own both of the machines, they are both decent enough for the time they were made relative to other bagless machines of the time (mid-2000s) but they are well past their prime. They were both made by a company that was then known as Euro-Pro. If you must keep one between those two then I would suggest keeping the Fantom, I believe they sold a few more of them than the Pursuit so filters and other parts should be relatively easy to source compare to the Pursuit. I change my Miele bag every month or two, the pre motor filter after every four bags, and I change the HEPA filter once a year. If I used one of my Dysons more often then I would need to empty it after each use and clean both filters monthly. Bags cost money, but I save time (money) by not needing to perform maintenance so often. It also looks nicer to not see all of the dirt sitting in the vacuum cleaner. Also, there are still many bagged machines on the market. Sebo and Miele are just a couple of examples of brands that primarily sell bagged machines. |
Post# 428383 , Reply# 7   7/9/2020 at 18:33 (1,358 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)   |   | |
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Sorry to hear of your loss. May she be in your heart and fond memories forever. I vote bagged vacuum all the way. |
Post# 428393 , Reply# 8   7/10/2020 at 00:20 (1,358 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)   |   | |
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lol folks around here are mighty biased on the bagged vs. bagless debate. You're asking the wrong crowd.
Objectively speaking, it entirely depends on the particular machine and your personal preference. Some bagless machines are objectively terrible, and others are quite good. Though I don't have much experience with bagged machines, I think most of them tend to be good in the performance category. But that's down to two things: simplicity of design (it's hard to screw up a bagged vac) and the fact that most bagged vacs are either super expensive high-end machines or older, but well engineered machines (from the days of yore when stuff was still made in the USA). Personally, if the machine is well designed, I would prefer bagless. While most here will complain about how hard it is to dump dust in the garbage can after vacuuming, I think it's quite easy. Then I don't have to worry about dust staying in my machine for weeks. And this nonsense of putting the dust back in the air when you dump it in the garbage can, is literally NO different than handling a vacuum bag that will belch its stored dust upon removal (which is worse in my opinion). Granted, there are some bags designed to self-seal upon removal, so those get a pass. But, you know, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. |
Post# 428417 , Reply# 10   7/10/2020 at 13:59 (1,357 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)   |   | |
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My boyfriend and I have four pets, bagless vacuums end up smelling like dog after using one for a while without washing out the bin and the filters very frequently. Meanwhile my bagged vacuums can be deodorized in seconds by changing the bag. No poof of dust, I don't know of any current bagged vacuums that don't self seal besides the two bagged Bissell options.
I don't think it is fair to call us biased. Most of us have no financial involvement in the vacuum industry so it doesn't matter to us one way or the other if a stranger on the internet buys a bagged or a bagless vacuum. I personally own a good mix of bagged and bagless machines, it's likely about equal actually. But I only have two vacuums that are not either in my storage unit or in the attic above my garage, they are both bagged simply because they are easier to use and require less maintenance. That's a perfectly reasonable and fair opinion, and many of us share that opinion for good reason. I have nothing personal against bagless vacuums, but I wouldn't want to use one as a daily driver because I know from experience that I don't like using them for that purpose. |
Post# 428420 , Reply# 11   7/10/2020 at 14:28 (1,357 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )   |   | |
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Post# 428455 , Reply# 13   7/11/2020 at 00:28 (1,357 days old) by KirbyCollector (Columbus Ohio USA)   |   | |
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Post# 428475 , Reply# 15   7/11/2020 at 13:46 (1,356 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)   |   | |
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Bagged machines all the way for me. With bagless vacuums, the filters clog very quickly and when you dump them out, dust goes everywhere. With a bagged vacuum, remove the bag and install a new one, very simple and no dust everywhere. This debate will probably continue as long as vacuums are around. Mike |
Post# 428506 , Reply# 16   7/12/2020 at 01:21 (1,356 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)   |   | |
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Post# 428739 , Reply# 17   7/18/2020 at 17:41 (1,349 days old) by mariotron (Texas )   |   | |
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Bagged all the way.
The only exception is I have for are my quick pick up vacuums (dont really have choice except for the Oreck pod) like my Bissell Ion Adapt which I just use for picking small messes like snack spills. No matter the dust cup size you vaccum up dust its gonna come back at you when you dump it out. |
Post# 428749 , Reply# 18   7/19/2020 at 09:05 (1,348 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Bagged for me.
When I vacuum up dirt from the floor, and hair from the bathroom, and dust from my bookshelves and chairs, I don’t want to ever see it again. I want it to disappear! I don’t mind cleaning the little filter and bin in my wonderful cordless Swiffer bare floor vac, but that’s as far as I will go. I can’t see the logic in burning up hours of my valuable time every month cleaning and washing bagless vac bins and filters and waiting for them to dry, let alone dealing with the clouds of fine dust every time I drop the dirt in a garbage bin. As the saying goes: time is money. With the availability of disposable bags on the internet, it is a breeze to order the correct replacement bags without even leaving my apartment. So the bagless vac sales pitch of “you can never find the correct bags” is no longer is valid. My favourite vac store already knows what I need, and if there is some odd part (Hoover belt, Miele filter, etc) that I need, I just email them a photo of the vacuum and the ratings plate and they know exactly which part or bag or filter I need to buy. Call me a crazy vac nut, but there is nothing more satisfying than dumping a heavy, dirt laden dust bag in the garbage bin! Bye, bye dirt!!! 😁 |
Post# 429284 , Reply# 19   7/30/2020 at 16:45 (1,337 days old) by ridgidwd0670 (se wood co ohio)   |   | |
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