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Thread Number: 40305
/ Tag: 50s/60s/70s Vacuum Cleaners
Kirby DS80 1989 Rebuild |
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| Post# 428132 , Reply# 1 7/4/2020 at 09:41 (1,384 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky) | ||
Nice find! | ||
| Post# 428133 , Reply# 2 7/4/2020 at 10:36 (1,384 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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The fan is trash. You have a nice machine too.
The shop vac if you put filters on and disposable bag I guarantee they work. The DS 80 is really good choice. Kirby does CFM and this is there strongest machine CFM wise. I mean produced to general public not special order. I'd say trade in the bag and us a heritage bag setup for HEPA bags. I make adapter kits and I actually sold one this last week. First pic Pinterest stole but is a ds50 with heritage bag and it's very similar to the DS 80. The second is my first day 80 bag that I put a fill tube on. Nice choice sweet vacuum. Les | ||
| Post# 428159 , Reply# 3 7/4/2020 at 21:24 (1,383 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA) | ||
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Post# 428171 , Reply# 4 7/4/2020 at 22:39 (1,383 days old) by KirbyClassicIII  (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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Post# 428175 , Reply# 6 7/5/2020 at 00:18 (1,383 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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sopranojam85
Callie,
As far as I know, no. I would guess in the years since the 1989 rebuild of this machine, the then-current owner probably took it to his/her local vac shop and requested it have the double-wides for better stability. If you ever have trouble getting this machine to run after reassembly, here is a video from VacLab you might be interested in watching: ~Ben | ||
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Post# 428176 , Reply# 7 7/5/2020 at 00:26 (1,383 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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Post# 428644 , Reply# 9 7/15/2020 at 14:20 (1,373 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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| Post# 428648 , Reply# 10 7/15/2020 at 18:31 (1,373 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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Hepa
I sold a HEPA kit a week and a half ago. He said it sounded like it was sucking more air.
Each person is different. The machine has been using a shakeout bag for over 50 years no need to change it now. I don't know if Kirby puts wide wheels or double wheels. It does help square up the stance of the vacuum and utilize all 8 height settings. The double wheels if they used an extender screw I'd recommend a classic through tradition front axle. The wide screw creates a weak point in the axle. Les | ||
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Post# 429330 , Reply# 12 7/31/2020 at 18:10 (1,357 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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sopranojam85
Callie,
Too bad about that one carbon brush holder. And yes, as Les suggested, you could change out the front axle from your old style to the one used for Classic 1CR to Legend II (part no. 131670S), to have the machine sit higher up front. That is what I used to do on my D80 years back. There were also a few Kirby Classic 1CRs built in 1970 that had the older-style front axle being used with the new wider brown wheels, so a longer screw (10-32 x 3/4") was used during this time. ~Ben | ||
| Post# 429338 , Reply# 13 7/31/2020 at 21:14 (1,356 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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Axle
The cb Kirby models had the axle I mentioned. Omega, classic 3 and tradition. The heritage Mico matic works too it just has a screw on the #1 setting. The reason for the screw is it would cause havoc on rugs.
If you have an adhesive goop glue or e6000 which are the same item. You can glue together the carbon brush holders. I have done this as there were none available online. In case that happens in the future. If your motor is quiet the bearings are fine. Keep us posted on how things are going. Les | ||
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Post# 430237 , Reply# 16 8/17/2020 at 19:30 (1,340 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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sopranojam85
Callie,
Here's a pair of correct motor brushes for your machine... https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kirby-Vacuum-Mo... In the picture, "B75" is cast into the graphite. This seller, who I have done business with many, many times, also recommends you ignore removing the brush wire terminal clips (104559), which are bent to hold down the brush in the holder and straightening them out usually would break these tips; instead, he recommends you remove the brush holder clip and then the brush holder itself, so you can access the old carbon brush from the bottom instead of the top, to avoid damaging the field terminal clips. ~Ben | ||
| Post# 430238 , Reply# 17 8/17/2020 at 19:47 (1,340 days old) by sopranojam85 (Austin, TX) | ||
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Ben, thank you! I read that post top to bottom but found no mention of part numbers. Ok, I hope these brushes do the trick. I don't feel like eating the cost of shipping these bigger ones back, so maybe I'll just hold on to them if needed for a different Kirby. | ||
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Post# 430239 , Reply# 18 8/17/2020 at 19:57 (1,340 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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sopranojam85
Callie,
I edited my original post. In the new link I gave you to the right correct carbon brushes (the B75s), he says these ones measure 1/4" x 3/4". As I said before, it is recommended you don't bother removing the field terminal clips to access the brushes, but instead to remove the holder clip and then the holder itself, to access it from the bottom. Yes, do hold on to the ones you got (the HG22s), for your Classic Omega if you still have it. ~Ben | ||
| Post# 430240 , Reply# 19 8/17/2020 at 20:25 (1,340 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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Post# 430241 , Reply# 20 8/17/2020 at 20:27 (1,340 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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| Post# 430246 , Reply# 21 8/17/2020 at 21:03 (1,339 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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Post# 430255 , Reply# 22 8/17/2020 at 21:26 (1,339 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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LesinUtah
Les,
How best to access worn-out motor brushes on models 519 to Dual Sanitronic 80: simply pry off the metal clip for the brush holder, then the holder itself can be removed right out of its hole, no more broken terminal clips to worry about! ~Ben
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| Post# 430286 , Reply# 23 8/18/2020 at 22:48 (1,338 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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Issue
My issue was I fully removed all wiring. I have dropped a couple and one I tried to pop out through the groove and it got chipped.
If you take the motor out you can take the carbon brushes inside and you done have to really touch anything other than carbon brushes. Ben how's your d80 coming along? You have all the parts? Les | ||
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Post# 430288 , Reply# 24 8/18/2020 at 23:21 (1,338 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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| Post# 430398 , Reply# 25 8/21/2020 at 20:48 (1,335 days old) by sopranojam85 (Austin, TX) | ||
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The new correct brushes are here and installed. Works great. Thanks for the guidance. | ||
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Post# 430399 , Reply# 26 8/21/2020 at 20:50 (1,335 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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