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Post# 428099   7/3/2020 at 21:32 (1,363 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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I (regrettably) haven't kept up to date with the current vacuum industry recently, so perhaps I've missed something. I went to go look at the Aerus website, and I noticed their vacuum page has been completely removed. Now it's all about air purifiers. Plus, their Wikipedia page now says:

"In 2020 Aerus turned focus from making vacuum cleaners toward aerospace advancements."

Is Aerus still in the vac biz?


Post# 428111 , Reply# 1   7/3/2020 at 23:24 (1,363 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)        

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Nice to see you post! I noticed your YouTube videos were all taken down.

There was a similar post recently, it looks like there is still a site up for their floor care products but they don't seem to be doing all that great. www.aerusvacuums.com/Site/FloorCa...

I have also noticed some cheap looking cordless machines branded as Aerus machines on sites like Allergy Buyers Club and Amazon, www.allergybuyersclub.com...

Last I checked it is difficult to find a store that is still open near me, the last time I went to one was about two years ago. That store closed down two weeks after I visited it to buy bags and shampoo. Another store that I have been to in the last few years was the Richmond dealer ran by Ray Satterwhite (who doesn't seem to love the idea of collecting vacuum cleaners). No idea if the Richmond store is still open or not, the Aerus Vacuums website says that they are but they do tend to have a delay on showing when stores close.

I know there is at least one collector who sells Aerus products, they claim that the company is doing fine but common sense tells me that the focus is not on the vacuum cleaners anymore. Their product line is outdated and overpriced, along with their sales model. As much as I like their vacuum cleaners, and as much nostalgia as many of us collectors may have for the brand, they just don't look like they are doing very well anymore.


Post# 428187 , Reply# 2   7/5/2020 at 11:12 (1,362 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
I noticed that too

I had not looked at the Aerus Wikipedia page until your post. Very strange wording. It would appear that Aerus is going to discontinue the vacuum business.

It is not totally unexpected. The vacuum cleaner industry is downsizing, consolidating, and entrenching. There are fewer and fewer manufacturers. the larger, well known companies are taking full control of the business. It looks like the door-to-door model is on it's way out as people get busier and busier.

Very sad times for people who like quality vacuums, especially canisters.

:(


Post# 428189 , Reply# 3   7/5/2020 at 11:30 (1,362 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
@myles_v

I don't know how well the company is doing because I don't have their financial info.

However, if they are doing poorly it is because Joe Urso is an idiot. He has made poor decision after poor decision. Surrendering the Electrolux trademark name in North America was beyond idiotic. The name change to Aerus confused and confounded the customer base. Along with this he continues to steer the company toward non-vacuum technologies, sapping the resources for vacuum development. Their cleaning products plus air filtration and laundry devices are extremely advanced while they recycle 30 year old vacuum designs. When you are spending R&D money on ionically charged water to clean laundry without detergent there is likely not much left for new vacuum designs.

If they continue selling vacuums at all, they will likely rebadge them as they are doing more and more anyway.


Post# 428191 , Reply# 4   7/5/2020 at 13:54 (1,362 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        
Ionically charged water

Given that technology that they’ve used for water treatment, it’s a shame that they don’t come up with something for the vacuum exhausts on their machines. Ionized air usually doesn’t smell like the contents of the vacuum bag and activated charcoal is short lived.

Post# 428193 , Reply# 5   7/5/2020 at 14:17 (1,362 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
@luxlife

Wouldn't that be an incredible vacuum innovation? It might even eliminate the need for filter purchases and everything. Yet they do nothing to the vacuums. It's almost like they have given up on vacuum design.

Post# 428209 , Reply# 6   7/6/2020 at 00:01 (1,361 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Feel that Aerus is trying to get into too much-At first they were into home care(vacuums and cleaning products)and air,water purifiers.The Aerus dealer told me they are going into matteresses and such.Now its going to be furniture!Think they should stick with cleaning and air purification.Forget the other products.

Post# 428291 , Reply# 7   7/7/2020 at 22:16 (1,359 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)        
electromatik...

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Yep, selling the Electrolux name ruined them. It was around that time that they were selling a couple of machines on HSN, I think that could have helped their sales if they kept developing machines if only they stuck with the Electrolux name.

Consumers aren't buying $1000+ vacuum cleaners unless they're talked into it by a salesperson. I hate to say it but I can't blame them, my Miele was cheaper than the cheapest current new Aerus vacuum cleaner and it is better at cleaning, filtering, easier to use, and has more features. The build quality is nearly as good as an Aerus. Hell, just wanting variable speed control means one needs the top of the line Aerus, while other premium vacuum manufacturers put that in even their lowest end models. Even currently, Aerus stores are only successful if they try to sell their customers on the Electrolux name that they used to go by. I have never seen an Aerus store that didn't have Electrolux logos everywhere, no one recognizes the Aerus name and no one is spending over a grand for a brand they have never heard of. While mentioning the stores, it seems worth it to mention the outdated sales model. The company appears to be structured like a multilevel marketing scheme similar to Amway or Tupperware. These kinds of companies It makes sense for them to leave the vacuum cleaner market, they have lost nearly all legitimate brand recognition.


Post# 428297 , Reply# 8   7/8/2020 at 08:16 (1,359 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
I totally forget about HSN

They absolutely should pursue that to build awareness and sales but Urso seems uninterested.

Post# 428301 , Reply# 9   7/8/2020 at 09:01 (1,359 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        
Dinosaurs, sadly...

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In addition to the significant name recognition handicap and grossly outdated sales model, Aerus has the same problem as Kirby in that their machines are so ridiculously reliable that they end up having to compete with their own used equipment.

Sure, it would be nice to have a brand new Aerus machine but there's no way I'd shell out that kind cash for one when nice, used ones can be had for next to nothing. As of yesterday, I own ten Electrolux vacuums—six canisters and four uprights (excessive, I know. I've got a problem). The newest one, acquired yesterday for a whole $3, is about 20 years old while the oldest two have passed the half-century mark. All of them will be running great well into the future and will doubtless outlast me.

The crazy thing is I have less than a tenth the cost of one new Aerus tied up in all ten of my vintage Electroluxes, combined. Three were trash finds that cost me nothing, four of them cost me $10 or less apiece, and the remainder were in the $20-$25 range. Those that needed work were made whole for little or nothing.

Sadly, Aerus is a 'dinosaur' brand. The meteor has struck, they have failed to adapt and the die-off has begun. The rats are taking over and the revolution will not be televised.


Post# 428304 , Reply# 10   7/8/2020 at 09:56 (1,359 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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People see things differently. In my vacuum store, I sell Aerus Electrolux. I don't sell the air purifiers or the water treatment stuff. Just the vacuums. I sold a Classic canister (my favorite) to a woman who came to see the Vacuum Museum. I told her what absolute junk shark vacuums are, and she said "I've had five of them in the past 15 years. All together I spent more than a thousand dollars on sharks". Her fifth shark was on its last legs. I showed her the old Electrolux vacuums, and then the new ones as they are up front, close to the door. I demonstrated it to her and she bought it. I said "no more junk for you. sharks belong in the water". It's not hard to sell a good quality vacuum with a five year warranty - you just have to show it. I also carry the HEPA cloth disposable Electrolux bags to help the motors live their longest.

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Post# 428309 , Reply# 11   7/8/2020 at 11:49 (1,359 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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Yes, you definitely have an advantage with the museum in that you can help the customer make a visual connection between the legacy machines and the new ones. The last time I was in an Aerus shop, when I got the cord and handle assembly replaced on my Genesis LXe under the decade-old factory recall, their idea of making a connection to the past was using a gutted 1205 as a combination planter and door stop at the front door.

Post# 428323 , Reply# 12   7/8/2020 at 17:16 (1,358 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)        

Hello Tom,

Congratulations on the sale. Do you know whether Aerus/Lux plans to continue to produce vacuums? I agree they make quality vacuums. Thanks.


Post# 428366 , Reply# 13   7/9/2020 at 15:57 (1,358 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)        
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I agree that selling the quality of the machine is the way to do it, but as @human mentioned there is the issue of competing with vintage models of the same brand. With so little changes being made to the machines themselves, there's little need for most consumers to ever replace them. I personally like Aerus Electrolux machines quite a bit, but they look outdated to many consumers because the designs are quite old.

Also, you're the perfect person to sell those machines. I doubt very many of their dealers have people who are as fit to sell them as you are, which is likely hurting the company as a whole. I am curious, have you heard anything about them exiting the vacuum market or winding down vacuum production? I doubt they'd tell many dealers until just before the end, but I am curious about any rumors you may have heard from them.


Post# 428709 , Reply# 14   7/17/2020 at 11:20 (1,350 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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Oh there are BIG things coming with Aerus. I'm very excited about them. I wish I could spill the beans right now but ..... when it happens "I told you so" first. It has to do with the production of the machines and the availability of them to a larger market (not wal-mart or anything).

Post# 428710 , Reply# 15   7/17/2020 at 11:43 (1,350 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
Wow!

Are you serious dysonman1? You wouldn't be cruel enough to tease us like that, would you?

Now I AM excited.


Post# 428721 , Reply# 16   7/17/2020 at 17:05 (1,349 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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No teasing. I'll tell all the moment I can. Electrolux vacuums are FAR from over.

Post# 428731 , Reply# 17   7/18/2020 at 11:48 (1,349 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )        

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@dysonman1 Tom please tell me they're going to continue producing Vacuums in the USA under the Electrolux name.

Post# 428743 , Reply# 18   7/18/2020 at 19:49 (1,348 days old) by beagledad (Florida)        

Yes they need to get the Electrolux name back on the vacuums. That is the dumbest thing they could have done. They can keep Aerus on the other products.

Post# 428746 , Reply# 19   7/19/2020 at 06:07 (1,348 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
Electrolux name change

I have been secretly hoping that Electrolux AB's vacuums and appliances would fail in the U.S. market and they would be forced to withdraw. Realizing the mistake they both made, I secretly hoped they would offer to sell the Electrolux name back to Aerus LLC.

I could swear that someone on this forum said that Electrolux AB was pulling the plug on the vacuum line in the U.S. but I haven't gotten my hopes up. In any case, whether they remain Aerus or whatever, they need to update and start ADVERTISING who and what they are. Electrolux used to run national commercials on TV but Aerus has only done limited TV advertising in major markets and these were made by the local Aerus dealer.






Post# 428753 , Reply# 20   7/19/2020 at 13:25 (1,348 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
selling of the Electrolux brand

I'm actually kind of sorry to see that the Swedish Electrolux company decided to discontinue their Ultra One series canisters, they were very good, very quiet and powerful. Supposedly the company that is now known as Aerus sold the Electrolux brand name back to the European company to have the funds to purchase Interstate Engineering which was the company that made the Tristar vacuums. That was a very unwise move on Aerus's part I think. The door to door sales model for vacuums is also a dying breed, especially now that many products can be bought on line. Certainly the Aerus classic model is a great design, no fancy speed controls or anything like that, but it works. I'm actually not a big fan of the Guardian Platinum because of the nonstandard hose end. I guess we'll wait and see what happens. I think the classic sells for around $800 which is similar to the price of a Sebo or Miele that has a power nozzle.
Mike


Post# 428758 , Reply# 21   7/19/2020 at 16:05 (1,347 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)        
Observation

Observing that the Aerus Guardian platinum Is made by Electrolux AB of Sweden for Aerus and the hose and attachments are made in the US, clearly there is some sort of “arrangement” already in place and perhaps what Dysonman1 is talking about is some sort of expansion of that.

I think I would be disappointed if Aerus sold off the vacuum division to Electrolux AB of Sweden because they’d probably dump all of what we here in the states associate with an Electrolux or Aerus vacuum in favor of their designs. The Guardian platinum is sold by Electrolux AB of Sweden as an Electrolux...but with a different hose and totally different power nozzle and attachments...more along the lines of basic plastic stuff that isn’t that good. And their hose is the old fashioned woven type...here in the states that will send people running who well know about the problematic woven hoses from the past that never lasted much more than 10 years before they started breaking down and leaking.

So what I do hope is that they regain the rights to the Electrolux name, then market the hell out of it and open more franchises to make availability and service Convenient and first rate again. Perhaps sales can be on line, through amazon or something like that with product service centers all over.

The vacuum market hasn’t really seen much of a revolution in some time...aside from Dyson making it big...which is long in the tooth now, and Shark which is beginning to lose its “newness” as well...the only more recent revolution in the vacuum cleaner market has been the handheld stick vacs like little Dysons and Sharks and others that have follows suit in those designs and also gone cordless. Robot vacs have lost some of their appeal so they aren’t fresh either.

Dropping the price too and lengthening the warranty will help Aerus succeed too. I know they offered discounts for trade ins and not sure how this worked to help the company make money aside from simply giving a customer a discount to close the sale.

I guess I would ask Dysonman1...do you know when we can expect that these changes he hints at to become public? I know that Aerus updates the product and colors every six years and we are coming to the end of the black and gray color run so would it be at the next color change which would be next year in 2021?

Also, I noticed that the air cleaners are differently branded depending on which site one looks at. They are Beyond brand on the Beyond by Aerus site....but when you look at the Aerus vacuums site, and look at the air cleaners, the are Aerus brand.

I think now that Electrolux AB of Sweden is no longer selling vacuums here, let’s hope Aerus is perhaps jumping at the opportunity to get their Electrolux name back for at least the vacuum cleaners, but it would be good to put it in all those Aerus products because the name Electrolux was always synonymous with quality and service here in the US.

By the way my Electrolux Silverado died yesterday, bearing bad in the motor. A sad day for me, but I have other Electrolux and Aerus machines to use in place of it. I posted about it in the vintage thread. It cleaned for 36 years, 26 as my regular vacuum used about once every two weeks. The first 10 it was someone else’s as I bought it used.

Jon


Post# 428759 , Reply# 22   7/19/2020 at 16:14 (1,347 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)        
Electrolux AB stopped selling Electrolux in the US

Yes, electromatik, it is true. Electrolux AB stopped selling vacuums under the Electrolux name here in the US around 2016. Some are still being sold under the Eureka name here so they aren’t totally out of the market. As I mentioned above...it seems there is an open door here for the Electrolux brand name for Vacuum cleaners to be used again here in the US. Aerus would be making another mistake to not seize this opportunity.

Jon


Post# 428762 , Reply# 23   7/19/2020 at 16:45 (1,347 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
We have to keep correcting people

The Aerus Guardian Platinum vacuum is not made by Electrolux AB of Sweden. It is made by Lux International AB of Switzerland. These two companies are TOTALLY separate and neither owns nor controls ANY part of the other.

Also, the only arrangement between Aerus LLC and Lux International AB is a normal trade deal for Lux International to make that one machine for Aerus and export it. Lux International also sells an air filtration machine that looks identical to the Aerus Guardian Angel so they have the same supplier for that also but not sure who.


Post# 428764 , Reply# 24   7/19/2020 at 16:47 (1,347 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

*The above should have read Lux International AG

Post# 428770 , Reply# 25   7/19/2020 at 18:39 (1,347 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)        
I learned something today!

Thank You for correcting that. Didn’t realize these were two separate companies and now I know as well as who is making the Guardian Platinum for Aerus. I do know it is the only one Aerus has “outsourced” aside from motors for the other models.

But it does seem the Electrolux out of Sweden is not selling their vacuums here under the Electrolux name any longer.


Post# 428773 , Reply# 26   7/19/2020 at 19:47 (1,347 days old) by funeraldirector (Boston)        
Lux Name

Guys,

I agree with the name change but Lux USA could only use that name in North America. We used Global Tek in other parts of the world for Renaissance branding. Probably should have sold the name for less money for AB to use on kitchen appliances and retained the ability to use it on vacuums globally. Shortening it to Lux and forgetting the Aerus experiment would have been just fine if done in the beginning. How many shop for a Ford tractor today? CNH has done a great job switching to New Holland so it can work. Can't wait to see whats up.

I have the European hoses both the Powerprof 10' and the braided hose. Both are made by Plastiflex and have nice grips that mate with the telescoping wand and all have replaceable ends. The braided hose is not the same as the Silverado hose made by Lawrence Mfg./Elux USA out of gimp. This is a hose of the same material as a Riccar Impeccable with a faux plastic braid over a conical European hose and comfortable to use. Aerus should have used Lux International's wand, hose grip and Sebo nozzle along with the Aerus floor, dusting and crevice tool. They could have added two feet and the handle grip to the urethane hose and would have been good too. Significant performance improvement with the Sebo ER-1 on a Guardian Platinum. Not so crazy about the scents from Lux international as I prefer the Lemon Sebo ones that go in the bag.


Brian


Post# 428774 , Reply# 27   7/19/2020 at 20:16 (1,347 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
@funeraldirector

Aerus isn't about to use the Sebo power nozzle. No company is going to allow another manufacturer to horn in on it's products if they can help it. There is nothing wrong with Aerus' hose and power nozzle except perhaps they could make improvements to the brush roll to improve dirt removal even more. Stiffer, longer brushes would take it from great to awesome. I like the current handle on the machine. I found it very comfortable in the store when I checked it out. I do agree that Aerus needs to get with the program and design a good telescopic hose.

Post# 428781 , Reply# 28   7/20/2020 at 05:08 (1,347 days old) by Mike811 (Finland)        

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For some reason Australian Sauber Excellence (Lux Guardian Platinum) uses Sebo ET-1 ph. It's much quieter what I have seen in youtube compared to the US-version ph.
Then again EU-version has different ph and now they have brand new design ph.


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Post# 428783 , Reply# 29   7/20/2020 at 06:48 (1,347 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
@Mike811

That's interesting but I wonder why they went with a SEBO powerhead instead of Lux's powerhead? They must of thought it was better than Lux's own design.

You are correct that SEBO's powerheads are quieter than Aerus powerheads. Aerus did reduce the noise of their powerhead a few years ago. However, I still think they could reduce it more because it seems to remain higher pitched than SEBO's.

I wonder how long we will have to wait to see what dysonman1 is talking about. I hate to get my hopes up too high but I sure do hope that Aerus can turn things around. I'd hate to lose another legendary canister vacuum company!


Post# 428797 , Reply# 30   7/20/2020 at 11:06 (1,347 days old) by Thevacomaticiec (Bathurst New Brunswick Canada )        

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Still waiting on answer too yyall keeo me posted

Post# 428818 , Reply# 31   7/20/2020 at 18:18 (1,346 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
Eureka, and Sebo power nozzles

The European Electrolux company sold Eureka to another company a couple years ago, they also sold Sanitaire to Bissell and they sold the Beam central vacuum company to the company that makes Duovac. When it comes to vacuums, Electrolux has completely pulled out of the North America market, with the Electrolux brand and with the other brands they owned.
Sebo power nozzles are some of the best available, they are well made and clean very well. I can't think of any way to use one on a Guardian Platinum because the hose end and electrical connection are nonstandard. It's very easy to get just about any power nozzle to work with the Aerus classic though since everything is standard, this is why the Classic is my favorite model.
Mike


Post# 428830 , Reply# 32   7/20/2020 at 20:10 (1,346 days old) by funeraldirector (Boston)        
My Platinum

Here are some images of my unit with the Lux International Attachments. Assembly and manufacture of this unit is done by contract manufacturer Kolektor for Lux international with the motor sourced by Domel, the hose from Plastiflex and not sure who made the smaller PB-1. The smaller ET-1 nozzle is significantly better with this machine in terms of performance than the Lux Omniflo but the Lux performs pretty good with the 48011 HPO green roller brush.

Brian


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Post# 428833 , Reply# 33   7/20/2020 at 20:39 (1,346 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
SEBO power nozzle

You could use it but you would have to import Lux International's hose and wand system.

I just don't like it. It looks mismatched. The shiny black cover on the power nozzle doesn't go with the machine. From an aesthetic point of view, it just clashes to me.

As I said earlier, Aerus needs to improve the bristles on their brush roll.


Post# 428877 , Reply# 34   7/21/2020 at 20:06 (1,345 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Brian,

I have a Guardian Platinum and have always disliked the bulky gas pump style hose handle that Aerus has used. I find even with the green roller brush that the power nozzle is less effective that many others. The power nozzle on my Filter Queen grooms the carpet better than the Guardian nozzle. I wish we could get the hose, wand and power nozzle like the one you have.

Gary


Post# 428884 , Reply# 35   7/21/2020 at 22:09 (1,345 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)        
dysonman1...

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That is great news, I'm looking forward to seeing what is in store for them.

As someone else mentioned, it would be awesome if they got the Electrolux name back and it would make sense since Electrolux Group has pulled out of the US vacuum market. Perhaps some arrangement could be made so that Electrolux Group could continue using the brand for larger appliances as they are currently while Aerus uses it for floor care products.

Over than the name, I hope to see some innovation soon rather than them just dressing up the existing models. Consumers often want gimmicky features, giving the average consumer what they want is what determines the fate of a company. They were once great at doing this, such as with the "automatic" canister vacs that popped out the bag once it was full. It provided little true benefit to the user, but it was a novelty that drew customers in and convinced them to buy it. Their current models have been solid vacuums but they lack the gimmicks that draw many people in.


Post# 428896 , Reply# 36   7/22/2020 at 01:48 (1,345 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I don't use my Guardian Platinum much because the board in it fails with a puff of smoke---so far three times.Its NOT that difficult to make a circuit board that can last the life of the vacuum!Meile and Sebo boards last for YEARS!!!My Platinum perform excellent-but the boards put a damper on this otherwise fine vacuum.Like Rainbow---maybe there should be a recall?My Rainbow was fixed under recall yesterday-ten minutes-an air deflector put into the motor fan on the machine.

Post# 428904 , Reply# 37   7/22/2020 at 09:02 (1,345 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
@funeraldirector

I'd be curious to know what you think the Guardian Platinum's power nozzle needs. Do you think it needs a more powerful motor to turn the brush roll? Do you think it needs longer bristles, stiffer bristles, more dense bristles, or some combination of those?



Post# 428905 , Reply# 38   7/22/2020 at 09:44 (1,345 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)        

One can quickly compare some of the features of Sebo vs Lux to get an idea of what might be missing. I don't know if either has or needs a headlight. The Lux power nozzle is a floating design vs the Sebo has height adjustment. The Sebo has a quick release brush roll for cleaning the hair off the brush roll. Shark has models that claim to clean the brush roll. The Lux has neither. The Lux has the nice L-shaped to help it maneuver. Does the Sebo lock in upright position? Both seem to have lifetime belts.

Neither has cute little rotating crumb brushes like the former Rainbow power nozzle.


Post# 428906 , Reply# 39   7/22/2020 at 10:06 (1,345 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)        
Bristles

I think when the bristles are new they are fine. I have a Kenmore canister with super stiff plastic bristles and while it does fluff older matted cheap carpet better, it also rips the fibers out and sucks them in the bag. Too stiff I say. For expensive carpeting and rugs the bristles on the Aerus/Electrolux are correct so as to not cause excess wear on the carpet but still remove the dust that has settled into the carpet without destroying it. Stiffer isn’t always better. If you need better lifting of the carpet fibers, you either have cheap carpet that mats or it is already worn out. If it’s just matted, better to use a carpet rake than a stiff bristled power nozzle to lift that nap in my opinion. Yes you can use a stiffer bristled power nozzle to lift the matted nap but it will also wear out the carpet that much faster, whereas a carpet grooming rake won’t wear out the carpet.

Post# 428909 , Reply# 40   7/22/2020 at 10:45 (1,345 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)        
Combination of reliability and performance and ease of use

For me I would want a combination of time proven reliability, performance and ease of use. For me for Aerus to start making major changes in their products doing away with some of those time proven systems such as on the Lux Classic would be a mistake. It works well and has proven itsellf and is time tested. Yes, under super abuse it will wear but that’s not “normal” use.

I notice when people are young they want the latest and greatest and new advancements thinking they are going to somehow be better, not always true. And after learning this people as they get older realize newer isn’t always better and tend to just demand reliability on a higher level than fancy advancements that aren’t time proven. I’m 51 and HATE modern days appliances that have circuit boards. Yes I know it’s cheaper for the manufacturers to put these in than mechanical controls but not when it has to be replaced due to failure.

I’m pretty sure the Lux Classic doesn’t have any circuit boards. The Lux legacy might for the lights on the top but it seems minimal. Clearly the platinum does and as noted above people are already having issues with it. If it’s under warranty which I think they all should still be unless not owned by the original purchaser they should be covered, but who wants the inconvenience of the board dying? Makes the product unreliable. Aerus is catering to both the people who want the traditional reliable models and the ones who want the latest and greatest advancements in my opinion and therefore should be ok. If they change or eliminate that strategy they will lose customers of whichever models they eliminate. If I had an unlimited budget and needed a new vacuum I’d likely end up choosing the Lux Classic most likely for the reliability and ease of use and change to the flip rug and floor tool and add a sidekick. Personally, I think it should be sold this way especially considering it’s current price and maybe include the lighted power nozzle as well and the longer length crevice tool. The short one is interesting but limited in its use. The above is strictly regarding the canister line. The upright is a whole other story That likely needs modification particularly to have the attachments on board and easier to use but I’m not an upright user so I won’t go into that here as I’ve never had one to experience it fully.


Post# 428911 , Reply# 41   7/22/2020 at 11:48 (1,345 days old) by Kloveland (Tulsa)        

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Brian, I like your version better. The PN matches well.

Post# 428960 , Reply# 42   7/23/2020 at 12:44 (1,344 days old) by Marks_here (_._)        
How do I

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Go about doing that for mine? I already have have many Sebo power nozzles plus I've got the floor scrubber attachment I got for $25 brand new 2yrs ago for my Felix but have never used it.

Post# 428980 , Reply# 43   7/23/2020 at 19:50 (1,343 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
gimmicks

What is most important is good quality and good cleaning performance, I say skip the gimmicks, it's just more things that can fail on the machine, the Classic is a tried and true design, nothing fancy but it cleans well and that's what matters. Usually the gimmick features require a circuit board which can fail.
Mike


Post# 428992 , Reply# 44   7/24/2020 at 08:28 (1,343 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        

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Holy crap - I had NO CLUE that Electrolux had national commercials in the USA back then! I mean it would be so WEIRD to see a Rainbow Vacuum, a Kirby or Electrolux commercial... That blew my mind.

Post# 428999 , Reply# 45   7/24/2020 at 11:58 (1,343 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
Here's another Electrolux advertisement

I forgot to include this one earlier. They rip Kirby big time in this one. I must admit, compared to most uprights at the time, if I had seen this, I would definitely have wanted it instead.






Post# 429005 , Reply# 46   7/24/2020 at 15:40 (1,343 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)        
I don't like, and have never liked

Run them down sales approaches. You don't show people how bad their machine is, you show them how good your's is.

I saw a Lux dealer at the home show a few years ago, he was saying how great his machine is, and they are good, but then he made a nasty remark about another brand. There were four people at his booth, and three of us walked off.


Post# 429008 , Reply# 47   7/24/2020 at 19:52 (1,342 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)        
There is a proper way...

To compare to other brands without turning people off. It’s all about how you say things. This ad above is unfortunately bad as it exaggerates the Kirby issues making fun of them in a bullying sort of way. This could have been done in a much better way. As much as I ageee with the ad’s point, I don’t like the ad because of the unfair exaggeration. They could have been more fair by professionally showing the Kirby not being able to fit under the bed or another pierce of furniture, could have shown how the Kirby has to be height adjusted constantly and the Electrolux is automatic and just shown the Kirby and all it’s parts taken apart to put the hose on in a better way than they did and said the competition has to be disassembled to be coverted. They failed to show the switch on the Electrolux to switch between floors and carpet but did make the point.

Jon


Post# 429010 , Reply# 48   7/24/2020 at 20:46 (1,342 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
I just posted these for historical value

I'm not attacking other brands nor am I making personal statements. I just wanted people to know how large and powerful Electrolux used to be. Many don't realize that Electrolux was always much bigger than Kirby or Rexair or any other direct sales vacuum company. It had much bigger financial resources and used them accordingly. Electrolux was for decades the best selling vacuum in the U.S. and even after they lost that title, it remained the largest selling canister in market share for decades more.

In any case, a company "attacking" other companies' products certainly isn't new and isn't unique to Electrolux. I liked the ad, and found it mostly humorous.


Post# 429022 , Reply# 49   7/25/2020 at 00:13 (1,342 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)        

I wasn't stating that in regards to you, or your post, just the poor practice in general.

Post# 429029 , Reply# 50   7/25/2020 at 10:35 (1,342 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        
Valid claims....

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That is a pretty humorous ad, in a lowest common denominator sort of way. Its rhetorical approach is more commonly employed in those dial-the-800-number ads for some sort of wonder gadget selling for $19.95 with the inevitable "But wait! There's more!" Any way you slice it, it's definitely an artifact of its time.

As an owner of both of the machines featured in that ad, I can attest that all the points it makes are completely valid. The Electrolux Discovery style upright is considerably easier to use. I always end up feeling more like that Kirby user in the ad. No matter how I try, I can never manage to replicate the ease with which the Kirby salesman reconfigured the Classic Omega I saw demonstrated in our living room when I was about ten years old.

So although I have multiple sets of hoses and attachments for my Kirbys, I use those machines pretty much exclusively as uprights—when I use them at all. Honestly a Kirby comes out only when I feel the desire to play with a Kirby. For ease of use, I more consistently reach for an Electrolux. For small, quick jobs, I gab my Discovery II or my recently acquired Epic 3500SR because I can just unwind the cord, plug it in and go. For a bigger job, I'm more apt to take a minute or two to assemble a canister since I don't keep hoses hooked up on them. Although the Electrolux uprights are extremely well balanced, it's nice not having to support their weight on longer vacuuming jobs.


Post# 429046 , Reply# 51   7/25/2020 at 19:02 (1,341 days old) by Air-WayCharlie (USA)        

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IMO, when Electrolux came out with the two motored upright they had a definite winner. It is so easy to go from carpeted floors to non-carpeted floors with decent suction. Also, it is VERY easy to use the hose and attachments.

When the hoses for the uprights became electrified the vacuum was even better. You can add the Sidekick and take care of furniture, stairs and car interiors. Arguably, the powered Sidekick can out perform the Kirby turbo tool. The "rug rat", version is fairly good but just listen to it scream when attached to an Electrolux upright or canister.

Like Human I own, (or have owned), many Kirbys and Luxes. I have the current Aerus upright and really like it. My favorite go to Kirby is a G-3 that was rebuilt by Kirby. There is something about the Kirby design from the beginning to now that is very pleasing to the eye. The polished metal finish with nice accent colors differing in the years of production is kitchy while functional for large carpeted areas.

Again, like Human, for ease of use I grab the Aerus upright or my SEBO Felix. That we all have personal favorites for different reasons just makes us "human".




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Post# 429047 , Reply# 52   7/25/2020 at 19:10 (1,341 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
@Kirbysthebest

I realized you weren't directing your post at me. No worries. :)

I just wanted it clear I didn't want the thread to turn into a flame war. It's a 30 some year old commercial now and not worth getting mad over.

But isn't it amazing how long the Aerus threads often get? The legendary company Electrolux, one of the biggest that looms large in vacuum history, still commands our attention.


Post# 429072 , Reply# 53   7/26/2020 at 09:18 (1,341 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
mini brushes and Sebo Felix

Another very nice mini electric brush is the Wessel-Werk HEB160, not sure if this would work with these Electrolux uprights, it's a 6 inch brush with a very short cord that plugs in to a standard hose power nozzle connector.
The Sebo Felix is an awesome vacuum. I don't like uprights much, I'm pretty much a hose cleaner person all the way whether that's a canister, backpack or central vacuum, the Felix is the one upright I have and it's a great machine, it's really a canister cleaner in the form of an upright. As far as I know it's the only upright that actually allows you to remove the power head and attach a hard floor brush.
Mike


Post# 429091 , Reply# 54   7/26/2020 at 23:22 (1,340 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)        
Air-WayCharlie....

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I absolutely agree, the two motor upright is by far my favorite design that Electrolux/Aerus has. If they would update and mass market it then they'd have a winner. It's wonderful as it is of course, but most average consumers completely overlook it due to its outdated appearance. I love finding old ones to clean up and sell or give to friends because they're just so foolproof and effective, but every single person I've given one to has commented on the old boxy look. One friend of mine actually calls them Brady Bunch vacuums. I love the look, it's nostalgic for me, but it's not the popular opinion with consumers.

Lower the price, add some gimmick for hard floors, dress it up a bit, then plaster it all over Amazon. They could push the Sidekick option, maybe add an electric stretch hose onboard like the Shark Powered Lift Away models. I know this won't happen, but I can dream I suppose. The vacuum industry is dying for a middle-market bagged vacuum to compete with Shark. Many people are becoming disgruntled with bagless vacs, but there are very few bagged vacuums between $100 and $500, and none of those mid-range bagged vacs are in major stores.


Post# 429297 , Reply# 55   7/30/2020 at 21:20 (1,336 days old) by funeraldirector (Boston)        
Lux

We have seen this before but not in the Lux International color.


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Post# 453233 , Reply# 56   6/1/2022 at 19:00 (665 days old) by Paul (USA)        
Re: Reply 14

Has Aerus unveiled its new floor & surface product manufacturing and sales approach yet? If so, what is it?

Post# 453255 , Reply# 57   6/2/2022 at 21:59 (664 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)        
Not much

They’ve discontinued some models and have sold off the upright which is now made for them. The lite uprights are also made for them. The Lux classic and Lux legacy are all now being produced in China as the Bristol VA plant now is exclusively making air cleaners.

Aerusvacuums.com still up showing the current options.

Parts for older models are now discontinued as of Sept 2021. Likely because they were being made at the Bristol plant which underwent major changes.

With fuel prices insane and shipping delays getting the machines here from China could really add to the cost but oh yeah…that’s right…they moved production to China because labor is super cheap there so I guess they can afford the shipping around the world. It would have been nicer to have built a new plant for the air cleaners and employed more American people to build the machines!

Jon


Post# 453312 , Reply# 58   6/4/2022 at 07:59 (663 days old) by Gabowenjr (tampa fl)        
Aerus update

I'm not sure if all of that is true. The lux lite and cordless lite are made for aerus definitely for sure. But as far as the classic and legacy being made over seas and then shipped here I'm not so sure that is true. They did open up another dist facility in Tennessee as well. Aerus stores do more than just vacs. Some do water systems, air systems and vacuums. Some great things are getting ready to be rolled out for the 100th anniversary and the company isnt going anywhere. As far as parts go they have been discontinuing parts for old models for years its nothing new.

Post# 453337 , Reply# 59   6/4/2022 at 23:49 (662 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        
Ok, so you’re “not sure if all of it is true”…

Well, how much of it do you know to be false???

The signs are hard to ignore, especially when Aerus Sidekicks and power nozzles are labeled with “made in P.R.O.C.”


Post# 453342 , Reply# 60   6/5/2022 at 09:13 (662 days old) by Dysonman1 (the county)        

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Aerus contracts with Nationwide in New York for the upright. The Lite uprights are just Riccars with an Aerus label. Nationwide makes a wonderful copy of the Aerus classic right now. It eliminates the switch rocker arm problems. I can absolutely see the legacy and classic being made in the same factory.

Post# 453777 , Reply# 61   6/13/2022 at 12:28 (654 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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I figured Nationwide took control of making the Aerus Lux Classic, I've talked about it a few times now from other threads.

Post# 453787 , Reply# 62   6/13/2022 at 23:04 (653 days old) by Gabowenjr (tampa fl)        
Legacy and classic still made by aerus

The legacy and classic are still made by aerus. They are not sub contracted out for manufacture.

Post# 453799 , Reply# 63   6/14/2022 at 12:27 (653 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
Ah ok

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My mistake, I must've misread from the other post. Since it sounds like you have some inside information with Aerus, what's the future with their other models such as the CentraLux and the Floor Pro?

Post# 453810 , Reply# 64   6/14/2022 at 16:38 (652 days old) by Gabowenjr (tampa fl)        
Assembled in usa

This is the bottom of the newest model legacy 1 month old. It says assembled in usa. The sidekick does say made in prc. I'm sure that slot of thr machine parts are made globally sent over and maybe assembled here. I do know the plastic resin has gotten out of hand cost wise. All I know is that the central vacuum is still being made, floor pro as well. I'm excited to see what is around the corner for aerus 100th anniversary.

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Post# 453842 , Reply# 65   6/15/2022 at 12:13 (652 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
I'll be speaking with a local rep

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I'll ask him, too, if he's aware of anything.  He SHOULD know.



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