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Post# 425412 5/13/2020 at 23:41 (1,442 days old) by radiowonderland (New York)
Checkrate/Likes So sorry for hijacking the wrong thread! Recap: I posted my broken hose handle; turns out it's generic, not genuine, and I got great advice from you all. Will respond to Jon's kind comments/suggestion tomorrow.

Post# 425413 , Reply# 1 5/13/2020 at 23:48 (1,442 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)
Checkrate/Likes Please pics of your complete vacuum so we can advise you if it's genuine. Electrolux canisters were generally good, but the original hoses were woven, stiff, and prone to leaking so having generic replacement like you have was better than the original. As I said previous, I've purchased and had good luck with this hose. There are other hoses available but its advisable to get one with a switch on the handle. You won't find a new original hose because the don't make them anymore (which is good) but you might find a used one. View Full Size

Post# 425428 , Reply# 2 5/14/2020 at 06:14 (1,441 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)
Checkrate/Likes 1 *I do believe Aerus still make the hoses for this series* It is likely Aerus still makes the hoses for this series, this series was made through 1997 at least and also the commemorative edition model used this hose as well. It would be best to confirm this with your Aerus dealer. As I mentioned my Mother recently got one for her nearly identical Olympia model. An older style hose that used a pigtail wire may no longer be in production but I have yet to verify that directly from Aerus and is irrelevant to this thread. While yes the generic hoses do have the switch, again, from what I�ve seen and experienc3d of generics, the plastic quality is not as good, the specs and tolerances aren�t as good so it could have issues with fit on either end they generally won�t last as long. Just look at what happened already to yours...a perfect example of the lesser quality of the generics. I have many genuine Electrolux hoses on vacs in our family...all the genuine rubber ones have so far lasted close to if not over twenty years as some of them were purchased when they first changed to rubber hoses. And these machines have seen heavy regular weekly household use. Post a full picture of the vacuum and all of its attachments, we can tell what�s genuine and what is not. Jon

Post# 425430 , Reply# 3 5/14/2020 at 06:26 (1,441 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)
Checkrate/Likes *@gregvacs* Keith: You should know that Electrolux themselves converted to rubber hoses in the mid to late 90s...so genuine rubber ones are available which are better than the generic rubber ones from my experience. While yes, the Silverado was originally supplied with a genuine braided hose, in no way am I suggesting he seek out a braided hose for the machine, but rather a genuine rubber one as opposed to a generic rubber one which he has had already and it has failed. Your last response seems to infer that the genuine are all the woven braided material which agreed was prone to deterioration from the inside out causing suction leaks. Jon

Post# 425435 , Reply# 4 5/14/2020 at 10:20 (1,441 days old) by radiowonderland (New York)
Checkrate/Likes 1 *You folks are continually amazing* OK, many pics! I think I'm being convinced to buy a new Aerus/Electrolux rubber hose. There's a tiny bit of play in the junction between my generic hose and the main unit so that when I actively push it in, the suction is slightly stronger. I'd like better precision in the seal for that suction. Except for the hose, and maybe the long beige sleeve (that's the close-up, pic #2), I think I'm all genuine here. But will you indulge me a couple more observations, about which I'd treasure your expert opinions? The Off/On/Reset switch on the power nozzle is hard to operate. I don't know that I'll ever need to actually, even with a genuine, switchless, hose. The Cleaning Selector on the main unit is supposed to rotate from 1 to 6, right? Some part of mine is offset by about 1, so that the range is from 2, past 6, to 1 (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 1). But I've never seen this have any affect. Does it have something to do with adjusting the trigger for popping open the bag door? **Finally, the motor will age, slowly, or eventually, right? Is there a metric I can use to know when to replace the motor? Thanks so much, kind people. Photos... < > Photo 1 of 7 View Full Size

Post# 425436 , Reply# 5 5/14/2020 at 10:32 (1,441 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)
Checkrate/Likes Everything looks original to me with the exception of your hose

Post# 425439 , Reply# 6 5/14/2020 at 11:32 (1,441 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)
Checkrate/Likes 2 *Second that* All is genuine here except the entire hose. If you don�t have anything else I will send some pics of some accessories you may like to add to complete your Electrolux. The cleaning selector should be 1-6 but some work may have been done on it before you got it causing the alignment to be off. It adjusts the sensitivity of when the bag door pops open and shuts off the machine signaling a loss of suction due to a full...or clogged bag. 1 is most sensitive to a minimal loss of suction..6 or beyond in your case would be a maximum loss of suction before it stops virtually allowing the bag to become packed which is not recommended...if all is working right. I can give you more detail on why you would want to change the setting later but a median setting of 2-4 works for most people and is recommended by Electrolux. It does not adjust the suction power of the machine, just the sensitivity of when the automatic shut off/bag door opening occurs. It�s pretty common on your power nozzle...PN6A...to have the switch be a bit difficult especially towards the reset position. If you had to reset it, switching it to off and back on again does the same thing. But usually switching it to the off and on positions works ok for the most part. Basically the reset is a �momentary� spring loaded off switch whereas off is the switch held in place in the off position. Motors on these are excellent and can last many years...your machine was made from 1982 through 1984. Aerus may be able to tell you the original sale date if you give them the serial number which is on the bottom on the front swivel wheel sled base...starts and ends with a letter. The motors may start to make a whine or grinding sound when first started or shut off when the bearings are starting to wear but this can be intermittent or just continue to get worse until the motor won�t run at full speed, then you can consider replacement of the motor and there is someone out there who actually rebuilds these motors. That power nozzle is virtually almost identical to the power nozzles Aerus sells today on their new machines in its mechanical style...just the design of the cover has changed. It is one of the best cleaning and most durable power nozzles and automatically adjusts the height with each forward stroke and resets it on each backstroke. That�s why it�s called automatic on the top. Omni flo on the cover refers to the fact that it was developed to allow airflow from all sides of the suction opening to allow for front and edge cleaning and proper airflow to prevent it from sticking to carpet. A vacuum when stuck on to something essentially stops working, continuous airflow allows for the best performance and earlier models were not as good in this regard. The power nozzle is from the Diamond Jubilee era, the next model after the Silverado. I purchased an identical one for my Mother in 1986 or 87. The wands look original and there is a metal wand inside the plastic sheath of the upper part. The wire inside it is replaceable when it is disassembled. Almost every part of this machine is designed to be serviced. I see you have the genuine dusting brush/upholstery tool...it is one of the most favorite tools out there. I�ve seen many people who have other brands using these with their vacuums as the Electrolux uses a standard 1 1/4� diameter wand in the vacuum cleaner industry. The adjustable wings can be replaced as well as the bristles..An Electrolux rep taught me how! You may wish to add the two steel or aluminum wands and a flip over combination rug and floor tool to your set...along with a sidekick mini power nozzle...it makes the unit even more versatile and the wands and flip over rug and floor tool were originally equipped with your machine, but likely a previous owner kept them when they passed the vacuum on. The Silverado is regarded as one of the best Electrolux models ever made as the motors are all metal and everything is the most advanced before more plastics got introduced in areas they shouldn�t have been. There were significant improvements made since 1968 when the same series similar blue 1205 design was introduced and by the time the Silverado came out making the Silverado superior to most of the models of the same general design before it (Olympia, Super J, Golden Jubilee and 1205.). Only the braided hoses which lasted 10 to 15 years were improved upon much later by changing to rubber. Electrolux was intended to last 20 to 25 years but they are proving to last far longer. Where did you acquire the Silverado and how long ago? Jon

Post# 425442 , Reply# 7 5/14/2020 at 11:50 (1,441 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)
Checkrate/Likes Jon's case holds water...those were indestructible cleaners. I would second getting the genuine replacement hose, Aerus still sells them. Take the gray cover off the bag door (4 screws inside), turn the dirt selector all the way up, and remove the knob with number and adjust it one setting number accordingly, or "clock" it so the number will match the setting.

Post# 425443 , Reply# 8 5/14/2020 at 11:56 (1,441 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)
Checkrate/Likes *Fear not* I do know what an original Electrolux Silverado hose was like. It was woven, stiff, and prone to leaks. There was no switch on the handle. And NO they don't make them anymore. Be grateful you had that replacement. It's made your Silverado experience much more enjoyable. Photos... < > Photo 1 of 2 View Full Size

Post# 425444 , Reply# 9 5/14/2020 at 11:58 (1,441 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)
Checkrate/Likes The hose that would be a good match is: It's even the same color. View Full Size

Post# 425445 , Reply# 10 5/14/2020 at 11:59 (1,441 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)
Checkrate/Likes *another alternative* which is similar to what you have now. Photos... < > Photo 1 of 2 View Full Size

Post# 425446 , Reply# 11 5/14/2020 at 12:08 (1,441 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)
Checkrate/Likes *Do you have the* Electrolux Sidekick? It didn't come out until about 1986, but you can certainly use it with the Silverado. Perfect for upholstery, carpeted stairs, and cleaning your car. I love it. CLICK HERE TO GO TO gregvacs28's LINK Photos... < > Photo 1 of 5 View Full Size

Post# 425447 , Reply# 12 5/14/2020 at 12:16 (1,441 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)
Checkrate/Likes *And what about the other* Attachments? We see you've go the dusting brush. What about the crevice tool and bare floor brush with wand set? View Full Size

Post# 425448 , Reply# 13 5/14/2020 at 12:19 (1,441 days old) by radiowonderland (New York)
Checkrate/Likes 1 Jon, it was Mid-90s I think, from the private stash of a Brooklyn Electrolux dealer. I visited and met his family; rather memorable. The only other accessories I have are plastic adaptors for really small places. I've had two similar Electrolux brushes. Never understood how they are adjustable or what those 'wings' do, but they look cool. How does the flip-over tool help beyond what the power nozzle does? For floors I guess? I used to have something that fit that flip -over description. (I let go of a 1960's model Electrolux canister that had that and the old brush.) About the wands, of all the things to get generic, surely a simple wand would be fine? If you could point me to such stuff, and the sidekick thing you mentioned, I'd be ever so grateful. Are there Aerus dealers who have a web presence and from whom I can order online? Or a good one for phone orders? The local (NYC) dealer I was sent to from Aerus HQ was a little brusque but seemed to know his stuff. To give back in a small way...I should upgrade my membership here? Something else? Thank you all so much~

Post# 425458 , Reply# 14 5/14/2020 at 14:21 (1,441 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)
Checkrate/Likes 1 Aerus still makes a replacement hose, but in rubber, not the old braided vinyl hoses. My dealer does phone orders and shipping, but I cant speak for others. Some do delivery, some are pickup only. Google Aerus Electrolux dealer

Post# 425459 , Reply# 15 5/14/2020 at 14:38 (1,441 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)
Checkrate/Likes 1 The wings on the dusting brush turn it into an upholstery tool. Flip them out and insert the hose in the dusting brush side (will feel backwards to you) and voila you can vacuum your couches. They even move to any angle should you have large upholstered Bolster arms on a couch or chair! It�s two tools in one! I�ll post a picture. The sidekick mini power nozzle is great, you would need the squared one, there are three different models, sidekick, sidekick II, and Sidekick III. The Silverado uses the standard �sidekick� should you wish to add it to enhance your Silverado. Though some users of generic hoses, including my Mom trying one, couldn�t get the sidekick to operate with some of the generic hoses, again a quality issue. You�ll likely pay double the price of a generic hose for the genuine, but it will last twice or three times as long and if anything happens to the handle, Aerus will have the parts for it as they are still making the same handle today on their Lux Classic model so they will have the replacement parts for the hose for many years to come should anything go wrong with it. Also, the genuine hose handle swivels 360 degrees, some generics do and others don�t, looks like the one you have doesn�t and the swivel feature is very nice. You might want to check the Aerus website to see if you can order the hose through them, but any Aerus dealer will come to your home as well if you don�t want to make the trek to the closest branch especially if it�s in NYC and you are not in the city. I used to live in Northern NJ, grew up there and parents still live there so know the city well. Dad worked in 30 Rockefeller Plaza building for half his career so wnt in the city frequently so I know it�s a hassle to deal with getting into the city. There may be a branch out on Long Island or in the White Plains area. Not sure where you are..what town are you in? A branch more miles away but easier to get to may be what you need or need to call and have them come to you with the hose. Get your moneys worth, have them come to you. Posting some pictures next of the tools for you. May also want to get a crevice tool...eBay is a good source for used genuine tools. The genuine ones will say �Electrolux� on them unless they were manufactured after the name change to Aerus in 2003 at which point they stopped putting the name on all the attachments. The flip over rug and floor tool is good for hard floors, nothing touches the floor except the bristles and getting in tight places is easy with it such as under and around dining table and chairs. It depends on how much hard surfaces you have. Especially more delicate wood. The flip side is used for mattresses, drapes, small area rugs or mats that the power nozzle might suck up...rugs with fringes, and fine rugs you may not wish to use the power nozzle on. You�ll get a more concentrated flow of straight suction with this side of the tool. I use mine a lot on those small area rugs, also I have a lot of hard floor surfaces and not much carpet anymore so the brush side is what I use primarily for vacuuming and makes maneuverability much better. The tool is reversed by pulling it off the neck after squeezing the two release buttons on either side of the neck and flipping the tool over and reinserting the neck into the rectangular hole, the words �this side up� should always be facing up and the side you want to use on the floor or surface facing down, this insures the suction is directed through the side you want to use. I�ll post pictures. Yes, any 1 1/4� wands would work including plastic. Electrolux made them in steel, aluminum and plastic. I prefer the lightweight aluminum. They don�t bend like the plastic and are lighter than the steel though the steel is the most durable of all. Often you can get the flip over rug and floor tool with the neck and a set of wands on eBay as a used set. It�s nice too sometimes to use just one wand with the dusting brush or upholstery tool for a medium extension. Finally the accesssory wands can be added to the power nozzle wand and the dusting brush for a really high or long reach if you have cob webs up high you can�t reach for example. Jon

Post# 425462 , Reply# 16 5/14/2020 at 15:48 (1,441 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)
Checkrate/Likes Joshua, you need a new dusting brush. I noticed that yours is so worn the bristles are level with the rubber snout in the middle. That makes it fairly useless. The bristles should stick out about an inch past that. I love this dusting brush. Even though I use a central vacuum now, I still use my electrolux dusting brush and the Sidekick. Photos... < > Photo 1 of 5 View Full Size

Post# 425463 , Reply# 17 5/14/2020 at 15:51 (1,441 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)
Checkrate/Likes I converted my Sidekick for use with my Central Vacuum with the addition of a special adapter. View Full Size

Post# 425464 , Reply# 18 5/14/2020 at 15:52 (1,441 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)
Checkrate/Likes Here's the floor tool with original aluminum wands. They also made some chrome wands and plastic sets. Either will work. View Full Size

Post# 425468 , Reply# 19 5/14/2020 at 16:47 (1,441 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)
Checkrate/Likes 2 *Photos* Joshua here are photos for you I referenced I would send a little earlier. Also , I recommend only the genuine dusting brush, the generics tend to break. I tried one, it broke. You can get a generic and swap bristles. The swing out legs pins easily break off. I also included a few photos of my genuine Electrolux Rubber hose so you can closely see the handle design so if you decide to look for a used Genuine rubber one on eBay you know exactly what a genuine handle looks like. If it was made before 2003 it will have the Electrolux name on it as mine does, after that no name but pay particular attention to the suction regulator device. Only the genuine has the round knob on the underside which gets twisted to open or close it and the little vents on each side. I do admit the absence of the switch on the genuine is a slight inconvenience but I think once you have a genuine you will notice a difference in the quality and will make every use of the machine worth the price aside from it lasting much longer than generics. The hose and the handle is the most heavily used part of the vacuum as well, it needs to be good is my opinion. Most common color of this hose is this one I have in the sandy tan gray, but some are more gray and others could be white or now a dark charcoal, just depends on the color Aerus is choosing to use at the time to manufacture the hoses. No one will sell new Genuine Aerus Electrolux parts outside of an Aerus Electrolux franchise, all others will be generics such as sold at �vacuum stores that service all makes�. Hope the photos help you to understand the other tools if you would like them. Personally, I switch between the power nozzle and the floor brush at the handle so I don�t have to bend down, I keep the power nozzle and it�s wand fully assembled and the floor tool and the accessory wands assembled and so when I want to switch from floor brush to power nozzle I Can just change at the handle and I don�t have to bend down or undo/plug in any wiring. Just depends on what your home is set up with and what your cleaning needs are. Sometimes I do disassemble the floor brush and or the wands and use one wand with the combination brush upholstery tool, but it�s usually just when I�m doing some right dusting in Hard to reach places like behind furniture or the plantation shutters and so on. Sometimes you can find a grouping of Genuine attachments on eBay for a reasonable price and will include everything you want or more for a decent price, no harm in having extra attachments if it�s a good package deal. The nice thing is that when you have a complete set you can adapt for any cleaning need. When I first got my Silverado I had mostly carpet in my apartments so rarely used the floor tool, then I moved to a house with a bigger kitchen and bathrooms where I used the floor brush more, then a house with 60/40 Carpet and hard floors, and now I�m finally in a house with 90 percent hardwood and 5 percent tile and 5 percent carpet so the flip over floor brush tool gets used primarily. I was able to adapt by changing tools to each of the homes without having to get a different vacuum cleaner. I love to use my Electrolux to clean out my cars too. There�s even a shampooer tool that works with the Silverado powered by the suction. Aerus sells the special shampoo. Jon Photos... < > Photo 1 of 20 View Full Size

Post# 425476 , Reply# 20 5/14/2020 at 21:16 (1,441 days old) by JustJunque (Western MA)
Checkrate/Likes *Jon,* I know you're responding to Joshua, to help with his replacement hose and attachments needs. But, I just have to tell you; your explanation was so informative and interesting! And I don't usually read lengthy posts unless it's something that I'm needing help with. Among my Electrolux/Aerus collection, I have an Ambassador III, which I keep set up pretty much exactly as you were describing. You've inspired me to pull that machine out tomorrow for the day's vacuuming. Barry

Post# 425481 , Reply# 21 5/14/2020 at 21:38 (1,441 days old) by radiowonderland (New York)
Checkrate/Likes *WOW, thank you!* I'm in Brooklyn, NY. You mean Aerus dealers deliver in person for free? That actually did happen to me...decades ago. I was astonished then. I'd be even more astonished if it was still happening in NYC. I will get a replacement hose and dust brush for sure, maybe the flip-over tool and some wands. It's not a huge apartment; otherwise we'd probably get more. I'm very grateful. Thank you all!

Post# 425482 , Reply# 22 5/14/2020 at 21:42 (1,441 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)
Checkrate/Likes *Joshua* Here is a deal on a sidekick that will work for you. Not a bad price. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Jo's LINK on eBay

Post# 425483 , Reply# 23 5/14/2020 at 21:45 (1,441 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)
Checkrate/Likes *Joshua* Here are some attachments not a bad price either but an auction. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Jo's LINK on eBay

Post# 425486 , Reply# 24 5/14/2020 at 22:19 (1,441 days old) by radiowonderland (New York)
Checkrate/Likes *Jon* The auction items look really good--except maybe the brush, does it look worn, uneven?

Post# 425487 , Reply# 25 5/14/2020 at 22:36 (1,441 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)
Checkrate/Likes 1 *I had to use that tool* when I cleaned some friends' houses. I could never get into that concept. NOT bashing, but. that tool was def not my thing.

Post# 425501 , Reply# 26 5/15/2020 at 07:57 (1,440 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)
Checkrate/Likes I've got a couple of the generic hoses like the one in reply no. 9 and the only real problem I've had with them is the screw closest to where the handle attaches to the wand has a tendency to work itself loose. The easy solution is to replace it with a self-threading screw the same length but with slightly wider threads to get a better bite into the plastic. I've had to fix that problem on two of mine. The SideKick is a must-have item and is readily available on eBay for less than $20. Honestly, there's no reason not to get one. These machines really do last a lifetime. I have two 1205s that are more than 50 years old and both are still going strong. The reason I've zeroed in on Electrolux and Kirby as my vacuum cleaners of choice is they're durable almost to the point of indestructibility and designed to be repaired. It's a feature missing in damn near everything these days.

Post# 425508 , Reply# 27 5/15/2020 at 09:34 (1,440 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)
Checkrate/Likes *Joshua* The round brush may have some wear, but the bristles definitely extend beyond the suction hole quite a bit so not too bad. Considering the used genuine round brush tools go for at least $15, and this includes all 3 attachments, it�s not bad...the rug and floor tool often is pricey at $39 but it just depends on how many are on eBay at a particular time and how much sellers are putting them up. The generic round brush combination tools that are shaped identically to the original also have a hard plastic cone inside the brush end which can scratch furniture unlike the genuine with the soft rubber circular bumper...another reason I prefer the genuine aside from the fact that the hinge pins on the flip out wings tend to break off easily on the generics...plastic is not the same quality, but the bristles are horsehair on these and can be swapped to fit the genuine one you have. A genuine Electrolux crevice tool is made of a more flexible plastic as opposed to some others and generics which tend to be hard and eventually crack or crack if stepped on for example. So I thought this group was good as everything is genuine for a good starting price. There is a generic that has a more squared base for $5 but I bought one, it�s ok but the bristles are a mixture of plastic and some horsehair and not nearly as dense, though it does have a different sort of treatment inside than plastic to prevent the scratching. Wasn�t impressed with the bristles but it seems a bit better on other accounts. No wands in this group of items though obviously. In the late 80s when Electrolux merged with the Canadian Electrolux, they adopted the Canadian floor brush tools along with the Canadian plastic canisters for their lower level lines which are single sided, without the side for straight suction on rugs, mattresses, drapes, etc. I like the double sided, just more versatility added to the entire product, and nice to have two tools in one at any time. The flip over tool was still included with the top of the line model. For a while it was discontinued as included on all models but then reintroduced, likely from customer demand. In fact, Aerus now only includes the double sided tool on their most expensive top of the line canister, though the lower models can be likely be upgraded to include it for a fee or negotiated when buying new. Another example of use of the rug side of the flip tool is my Mom uses hers on her fine Chinese rugs in her formals, the rooms don�t get a lot of use, but dust falls on the rugs, so she is able to get the dust off easily without the increased wear of the power nozzle which she does use on them periodically, every few months for a deeper cleaning or after having company. Jon

Post# 425511 , Reply# 28 5/15/2020 at 11:57 (1,440 days old) by radiowonderland (New York)
Checkrate/Likes *Thanks Jon* I'm bidding on that set of attachments!

Post# 425513 , Reply# 29 5/15/2020 at 12:35 (1,440 days old) by radiowonderland (New York)
Checkrate/Likes *Genuine hose* I found a dealer in VA (who loves to talk) and bought the genuine replacement hose over the phone. www.rvavacuums.com/... Ray Satterwhite... and when I mentioned vacuumland, he said "I know that that guy...he wants to buy some old vacuum cleaners from me!" I'm a little sad about not shopping local, but this seems best.

Post# 425517 , Reply# 30 5/15/2020 at 13:26 (1,440 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)
Checkrate/Likes *Wow* Great you got the hose from a dealer you like! I just took a quick view of his web page via your link...he has an excellent page. I just watched the 1980 Olympia One commercial, (last video down on the left column). CEO Charlie McKee is advertising that the Olympia One will still be working in 20 years in 2000 with (routine maintenance). And here we are 40 years later with many of these machines still working just fine...my Mom�s Olympia One which her Mother bought in 1982 is still running beautifully...only maintenance ever on it was hose replacement one time with a genuine. It�s funny, in the ad he mentions...will your washing machine still be running in 2000?...interestingly enough my Mother has her Mother�s 1979 Maytag was her and it is still running today. My 1985 Maytag is still going strong. New Maytag are Whirlpool clones nowadays due to a buyout and Whirlpool scrapping the legendary mechanical design that lasts forever. Check out Automaticwasher.org...it�s the twin site for washers and dryers. The guy he is likely referring to from the web site is probably Charles Lester...His screen name here is Electrolux137 and has an amazing collection of Electrolux machines and of Electrolux History. He started these web sites and I think any donations by upgrading membership go towards his web hosting costs, but you may wish to email him directly with any questions if you wish to contribute, he would be the one to consult on how best to do so since you asked earlier. Unfortunately we are seeing less and less Aerus/Electrolux branches existing anymore as cheap bagless vacuums flood the market via big box stores and the days of door to door sales are gone due to no one wanting to answer doors and empty homes during weekdays as the age of the stay at home housewife is gone to a degree. If a parent stays home with their children, it�s usually just for the young years, then both parents are back to work. Dyson came out with their bagless vacuum and brilliant marketing flood8ng the market with those James Dyson the first vacuum that never loses suction� ads which caught on making it an almost overnight success and a household name, and while it is somewhat better than other bagless machines, to me it�s still not as good as an Electrolux or Kirby or Rainbow but a lot of people have bought into it. I�ve had numerous Electrolux�s and most of my family has at least one or more of them. I have several myself and have given some away as well. I enjoy the product and since it�s what I grew up with I have a hard time finding anything I really like better or equally as much. I actually have my Grandmother�s Electrolux on my Father's side and it still runs beautifully. It�s a model XXX and she bought it new when my Father was a little boy....10 or less...he is 84 now. Oh, also, you should know that typically the switches on the Silverado's tend to wear out. So if the machine stops running, it could be the switch. It�s a cheap part and easy to fix...I think it�s around $10 from Aerus. To replace it you take the 3 top screws off, one in front between the Automatic Control writing and and two more screws under the blower door when you slide it open, lift off the cover carefully and you�ll see the switch mechanism, it just unscrews and unplugs via slide on terminals on the ends of the wires. I�ve had a few go out on some of these series of machines. Usually if the motor goes, it won�t be a �suddenly dead� situation so if it won�t work, it�s likely the switch, especially if when you open the bag door with it plugged in and the switch on and the red light is not on, likely there�s no power getting through the electrical system. Could be the cord or cordwinder too. But these issues are less frequent. I�d be curious to see which color hose they are sending out at the moment. Let me know what you end up with. To care for your new hose they suggest avoiding bending it sharply when storing it, so take it off the wand for sure, if not off the entire machine if you store the machine upright. Also be mindful not to bed it sharply repeatedly close to the handle, these would be highest points of wear and I�ve seen the generic rubber ones start to rip through there, haven�t seen a genuine one do it yet, but I just like to be careful myself anyway so my hose lasts as long as it possibly can. Also, don�t carry the canister in an upright position by the hose attached to it, I�ve caught myself wanting to do that and have said, yeah, this likely isn�t a good idea! I might give this guy a call to see if he has a hose for one of my older models, apparently Aerus is discontinuing them...but the last model it fit was made in 1979 so that�s over 40 years and I guess they have decided to stop supporting machines that old and older. Apparently I got word of this from a member who went to an Aerus dealer in California. Jon

Post# 425566 , Reply# 31 5/16/2020 at 16:45 (1,439 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)
Checkrate/Likes 1 *A few photos and a short video* Joshua.....Needed to cleanup crumbs in the kitchen and dining room today. Have a small rug by the sink so thought I�d snap a few photos of the combination tool in action. I made a 20 second video showing me flipping the tool around but the site here won�t let me post a video. Anyway, some people get confused on how to flip it once they take it he nozzle off the elbow until they get used to how it works, since the nozzle had three openings. The easiest way to remember which is correct is that the elbow always gets inserted into the rectangular hole with the metal rim around it on the side of the nozzle. So when flipping the tool, you�ll spin it around from side to side rather than rolling it over. Sometimes it�s easier to pull it off, then spin the piece that gets inserted 180 degrees and reinsert the nozzle back on, then orient it on the floor with �This side up� facing up. You�ll get the hang of it. Photos... < > Photo 1 of 3 View Full Size

Post# 425567 , Reply# 32 5/16/2020 at 21:25 (1,439 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)
Checkrate/Likes Radiowonderland wrote: I'm a little sad about not shopping local, but this seems best. I reply: I get that but you are supporting an independent business, just in a different community, which is almost as good, considering that independent Electrolux dealers are a bit of a dying breed. The one in my city shut down several years ago and the closest one is about 40 miles away. At any rate, I'm glad you found a good hose. That will keep your Silverado gig fo years, if not decades, to come. Jon wrote: I�ve seen the generic rubber [hoses] start to rip through there, haven�t seen a genuine one do it yet... I reply: I own one. Ironically, it came to me with my Silverado. The handle was totally trashed and there's a one-inch tear in the hose just south of the handle. I sealed it over with RTV silicone and if and when I find a replacement handle, we'll see how well it lasts. Someone on here suggested sealing it with Flex Tape. I may give that a try if the silicone doesn't hold. I have enough other hoses that repairing that one hasn't exactly been a priority.

Post# 425571 , Reply# 33 5/16/2020 at 22:24 (1,439 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)
Checkrate/Likes 1 That famous dusting brush, I loaned a old Panasonic upright to the kids for some time, I had included an aqua flipper elux dusting brush in its tools,they wouldn't give the brush back! No way Jose! On another note, being silly I promise! My brother commented about having me creamated one day! I said just suck me up with the old suckolux! No mess,no fuss! He replied do you really think that sucker will still be working? My response oh hell yeah

Post# 425581 , Reply# 34 5/16/2020 at 23:06 (1,439 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)
Checkrate/Likes David, do I dare ask how a conversation devolves to the point of a sibling threatening to cremate you? lol

Post# 425583 , Reply# 35 5/16/2020 at 23:16 (1,439 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)
Checkrate/Likes An aunt's recent conversation

Post# 425626 , Reply# 36 5/17/2020 at 15:06 (1,438 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)
Checkrate/Likes *Not surprised* My Sister said she was going to bury an Electrolux with me if I go before her...I insisted absolutely NOT! Don�t ever do that to a good Electrolux someone could get good use out of. Though I�m not wishing to be buried either! They should all be sold off or given away to friends or acquaintances who would appreciate them. Yes, many of those dusting brush get confiscated by those who discover how convenient and fun they are. When I had a housekeeper, I wouldn�t let her use the genuine one for fear it would disappear, I put out a set of Kenmore dusting brush and upholstery tool for her use with the Silverado! It is Particularly useful for those of us who vacuum out the car. In fact, that was primarily how my Mom introduced me to it, she was vacuuming out the station wagon and of course, as a vacuum fascinated toddler, anything that involved using the vacuum I was right there watching or insisting �I wanted to do try�. I know it was under the age of 5...probably 3 or 4. An Electrolux man showed me how to fix a broken flip leg on it, he gave me another leg, then told me to warm the base of the unit running it in a hot water stream, then the base will flex to open some so you can get the leg out and replaced since the hinge pins need to come out of the holes. I�ve done this a few times now successfully. You just don�t want to force the hinge pin though, as it can break off so be patient and keep warming the base under hot water.

Post# 425630 , Reply# 37 5/17/2020 at 16:52 (1,438 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)
Checkrate/Likes I've never seen any dusting brushes with a broken side. I've seen them with worn brushes which indicates they got good use. We have to remember these dual tools were made long before they came out with the sidekick which I would use over the older furniture tool anytime. I wish they would make an electrolux dusting ONLY tool, without the wings/folding furniture tool part. I would be fine with that. I do have a dusting tool that came with some Central Vacuum that has a similar thick horse hair consistency, but I don't know what brand it is.

Post# 425633 , Reply# 38 5/17/2020 at 19:04 (1,438 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)
Checkrate/Likes *You can get that!* Electrolux did make a dusting brush with just the bristles when they made the XXX and LX back in the late 30s 40s and 50s! They also had a white bristle dusting brush too. They pop up on eBay periodically. Very cool looking because they are a round half circle with a hole in it for the hose end or wand...no traditional neck like most of us are used to! I�ve seen the mostly in metal but also some in plastic. It is rare to have the wings break off on the dusting brush but since I�ve run across so many people with Electrolux�s and acquired many myself, one with an already broken wing, I�ve seen a few that have broken and the generics that look nearly identical...those hinge pins in mine Both broke off one wing and one on the other wing pretty quickly attesting to the generics poor quality plastic yet again. The new generics that are more squared in design seem better but the bristles are sparse and a mix mostly of plastic with some horsehair mixed in, certainly not as bushy as the originals were. But certainly it�s rare to find a damaged one. The tool came out in 1953 with the model E and even back then was very durable. I have two that were from the Model E series based upon the coloring. Jon

Post# 425634 , Reply# 39 5/17/2020 at 19:56 (1,438 days old) by Compactelectra (Palm Springs)
Checkrate/Likes 2 *Lux Dusting Brushes* This thread caused me to get out two of the Lux round dusting brushes. The one on the right is the XXX dusting brush which I have always loved. Indestructible. The one one the left is plastic with the white dusting bristles. The interesting thing about that one is that it is in the Silverado colors which meant they made it all the way up to the 80s. Now I’ll have to use them. View Full Size

Post# 425658 , Reply# 40 5/18/2020 at 07:46 (1,437 days old) by ridgidwd0670 (se wood co ohio)
Checkrate/Likes U can buy just the bristle insert for your dusting brush

Post# 425689 , Reply# 41 5/18/2020 at 20:39 (1,437 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)
Checkrate/Likes To change the bristles you have to pry gently from the outside with a flat screwdriver to release the metal ring that hold the bristles in from the clamps in the bottom of the head

Post# 426028 , Reply# 42 5/25/2020 at 19:29 (1,430 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)
Checkrate/Likes Received my new Electrolux hose. Unpacking. Photos... < > Photo 1 of 8 View Full Size

Post# 426066 , Reply# 43 5/26/2020 at 08:46 (1,429 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)
Checkrate/Likes *Nice looking hose...* It's definitely a third-party hose, given that the handle has a power switch and a sliding suction control but that's not necessarily a bad thing. It should give you many years of good service. I actually like having a power switch on the hose and wonder why Electrolux/Aerus never included one. It's very convenient to be able to instantly shut off the power nozzle without bending down to hit the switch on the vacuum or on the power nozzle itself, if it is so equipped. One small maintenance note: You should periodically check and tighten the screws on the underside of the handle. They have a tendency to work themselves loose, especially the one forward of the switch. This happens to both of my generic hoses that have pistol grips. I have a third one with a little straighter handle design that, while not as comfortable to use, does not exhibit this tendency. Enjoy your new toy!

Post# 426071 , Reply# 44 5/26/2020 at 12:25 (1,429 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)
Checkrate/Likes *Keith,* how many times have you heard, "Nice hose"? What????????????? Best of luck with your new apparatus. You're good for another 100K miles on that cleaner.

Post# 426074 , Reply# 45 5/26/2020 at 16:02 (1,429 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)
Checkrate/Likes 2 *Note* Note that the person posting the �unpacking my new hose� was not Joshua, the person who started the thread looking for help, so I found this post a bit misleading. Joshua purchased a genuine Aerus hose but he hasn�t posted much lately. Just to clear up any confusion. Anyway good luck to both on both purchases. Glad you all are excited with your purchases, both genuine and third party! For those who have several vacuums, the third party generic hoses will likely last a good long time because use on them will not be as frequent as those who have only the one machine that gets used for every vacuuming occurrence like Joshua�s, henceI think he made the best choice to spend the extra dollars to buy a genuine with its somewhat better quality. Jon

Post# 426077 , Reply# 46 5/26/2020 at 18:23 (1,429 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)
Checkrate/Likes Jon, there is a significant number of people who come to vacland, Aw.org, and any number of other websites just a few times to fix a problem they are having. Once they find the help or information they need, they no longer have a need to return to the site. To people like ourselves who are dedicated collectors or aficionados, someone looking for advice on a vac is just a split second distraction or if it's a vacuum that we know something about, we enjoy educating the inquiring party. But you shouldn't believe that you are converting them from a typical casual user to a new life long hobbiest. I mean you've been here for a while apparently.... this can't be a total surprise. Look at the archives and you'll see those who pass thru vs the dedicated. I've been one of those passer thru people in other subjects on other sites. You did very well educating the party looking for hose help. And thread, like many others, will no doubt serve other people in the months and years ahead when they have a similar problem.

Post# 426078 , Reply# 47 5/26/2020 at 18:28 (1,429 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)
Checkrate/Likes *Putting the hose together with my Ultralux Classic* first, it's all alone without the hose, impaired, incomplete, lonely, downtrodden, disadvantaged. We check that it has a fresh bag Then plug it in getting it ready by turning it on. Life is returning. A suction test with pieces of a tissue ripped up. The excellent suction is breathing life back into this vacuum. Photos... < > Photo 1 of 13 View Full Size

Post# 426079 , Reply# 48 5/26/2020 at 18:32 (1,429 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)
Checkrate/Likes Now the hose is added and a happy smile and warm energy eminates from this Ultralux Classic. Testing the hose. It easily attaches to the body and detaches. Also fitting it to the power nozzle and trying the suction regulator. No problems. The switch is handy and convenient. Photos... < > Photo 1 of 11 View Full Size This post was last edited 05/26/2020 at 18:50

Post# 426080 , Reply# 49 5/26/2020 at 18:39 (1,429 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)
Checkrate/Likes *Sidekick* Someone mentioned that the plug on this new hose is a bit wide and doesn't connect well with the Sidekick. It connected fine with the standard power nozzle. My experience has been that yes, the receptacle is a bit wider than it should be, so I measured it. The socket on the Sidekick is a bit smaller than 11/16ths wide The plug on the wand is a bit larger than 11/16th. So yeah, it wouldn't fit as is. Trimming the two side of the wand plug is easy enough by carefully using a sharp utility knife. This will take off two slivers of plastic and have no negative impact on function. It's the only 'issue' I've found with this hose. It's a small price to pay for an attractive, affordable hose. Photos... < > Photo 1 of 7 View Full Size

Post# 426081 , Reply# 50 5/26/2020 at 18:44 (1,429 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)
Checkrate/Likes *And finally* Vacuuming with the lighted power nozzle. It quickly picks up those pieces of tissue. Trying the dusting tool and flip furniture side. This vacuum is complete again with a new hose that gives it all the functionality and suction it needs to be it's best. It's a happy Ultralux Now. Photos... < > Photo 1 of 10 View Full Size

Post# 426094 , Reply# 51 5/27/2020 at 08:46 (1,428 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)
Checkrate/Likes *Hoses for Canadian models* These don't seem to be as easy to come by, even through the supply houses. I've been looking for a while for a replacement to my ZB89 canister.

Post# 426126 , Reply# 52 5/27/2020 at 18:43 (1,428 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)
Checkrate/Likes 2 Very nice that the hose works for you and you were able to find a solution to get it to work with your sidekick. There is another brand of generic hose as well with the swivel handle, its handle is similar but slightly different in design close to where it is connected to the hose and the that may not be an issue with the sidekick, I had one of those with a Silverado...I can�t remember if ai ever tried the sidekick with it or not. I agave the vacuum away to a friend without a sidekick as I only have one. And there is the third generic one with the gas pump style handle. That�s a nice Ultralux and nice matching power nozzle. I got one just like it but the power nozzle was the opposing colors...the beige cover with blue bumper. I like yours better. I got it for a friend who asked me to get her an Electrolux off eBay for her when she saw me using my Electrolux in her home on a remodeling job I was doing for her. Is the back of your cordwinder blue or the trim color? Mine was the trim color which I thought was odd because I was so used to the backs of the cordwinders being the body color from the 1205 through Silverado series. My Marquise cordwinder back is trim colored. Yeah, I could tell Joshua wasn�t going to be a regular! He just came in for some help and glad we could get him going, but one never knows, he might check in again. My Brother in law did same on Automatic washer.org when he needed help for something on his washer. I don�t spend as much time there myself but have gone there for a problem I had but do visit occasionally since I am a big fan of original design Maytag washers and Dryers and have 2 of them myself and more in the family. Jon

Post# 426322 , Reply# 53 5/31/2020 at 00:03 (1,425 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)
Checkrate/Likes 1 My memory isn't what it used to be, but I believe the much bandied about Super J motor carried on in models after the Super J, including the Silverado. I think it was the Diamond J that started with a new motor design, albeit much maligned. In the early 2000's, you could still get a good generic hose for an Electrolux tank. But after that they got really cheap.....didn't matter what price you paid; chrome was cheap and often flaked off, OD's were all over the place. I used to restore Diamond J sets and give them to family/friends. Only complaints I ever got were the generic hoses. Aerus is definitely the way to go for a good hose....but they're over $100. And if you have $50 or so into your vacuum 'find'....that's a tough pill to swallow. Kevin

Post# 426336 , Reply# 54 5/31/2020 at 12:44 (1,424 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)
Checkrate/Likes 1 Jon wrote: He just came in for some help and glad we could get him going, but one never knows, he might check in again. I reply: I would count myself in that group. I first found this site in December 2013 after I rescued a Kirby G6 from beside a dumpster and needed/wanted a little information about it. Once I found the information I was after, I checked out for a couple of years until I scored a Royal Prince 501 handheld at a thrift store for $2 and change. After that, the sickness set in; my fleet has grown from three or four machines to 24 and I've never left.

Post# 426338 , Reply# 55 5/31/2020 at 14:23 (1,424 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)
Checkrate/Likes 2 "...After that, the sickness set in;" Yes Vacland and AW.org have facilitated and provided a breeding ground for those deprived, degenerates, like us, who would take pleasure in repairing, collecting, and obsessing over appliances. At times in histories past the likes of us would be suffering away in miserable conditions in a state run mental ward. Now only a fraction of us is in a place like that. We're basically living life on the run knowing that any moment societies judgement could go against us and we'll be punished for the vacuums we love. Oh the horrors.

Post# 426350 , Reply# 56 5/31/2020 at 19:19 (1,424 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)
Checkrate/Likes *Ha!* Well I must say that for people like us...years ago it would be appropriate for us to become vacuum shop employees, owners, salespeople and the like. There will always be people into something or other and I am not looked at that oddly when people hear I�m into vacuums. After all, someone has to be...right? The inventors of most all of these brands likely were vacuum cleaner fanatics. I recently was looking at the prolux web site and they have this huge page all about how they developed a bagless commercial backpack vacuum that actually forces the dirt away from the filter so the filter takes forever to need cleaning. They even compare to Dyson and point out Dyson�s faults. Interesting tidbit I learned was that Fantom was started as one of James Dyson�s failed prototypes. So the prolux people are obsessed with vacuums too and no one would look at that oddly because they are using their obsession to make a product that people need and want. I found this because I was suddenly just looking around to see what kinds of canisters are on the market today at big box stores and saw the prolux canister on target�s web site and the reviews were very positive particularly about the level of suction. I somehow decided to go to the prolux website to find out more on that and what other machines they make. We enjoy interesting and quality mechanical items. I about as fanatical about my Aerus/Electrolux�s as I am about the old Newton, Iowa factory built Maytag washers. I have everyone in my family now has at least one because they rarely need any repairs and if so, are generally easy repairs and since I know how to do most repairs on them I can help my Brother or Brother in law, or Father deal with it even from long distance but repairs haven�t been needed except on mine and my Parents and I was there on both occasions, one time it needed belts as I could hear a thumping and could stop the agitator by hand and the other the hose from the tub to pump split when I was visiting and doing a load of laundry. I wiggles the tub quite a bit and I think that caused the original hose from 1979 to finally crack. Jon Jon

Post# 426394 , Reply# 57 6/2/2020 at 07:53 (1,422 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)
Checkrate/Likes 1 It's just a fact of life on Internet forums; people come in for help & advice and then leave....mostly forever. You see the same in car forums et al. I have the opposite problem. I join a forum, dig in, get sideways with a few members who think they know everything and talk in absolutes, get p*ssed off an leave. I have to remind myself constantly that if I'm arguing with other members, I'm not really relaxing and having fun...so what would be the point of continuing? YMMV. Kevin

Post# 426407 , Reply# 58 6/2/2020 at 18:38 (1,422 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)
Checkrate/Likes 3 *Yes...in these forums...* We must remember to respect that everyone has their own opinion and that�s ok and while we might be certain we might be right or know better or whatever, that we can voice our own opinion and then hope others choose to see each other�s point but also respect them for their differing opinion and just leave it at that than get over zealous and upset. Then that takes the fun out of this. Jon

Post# 426420 , Reply# 59 6/3/2020 at 00:29 (1,422 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)
Checkrate/Likes 1 *Better words* were never spoken. Excellent!!!!!!!

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