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My new to me Rainbow E Series E2 Single Speed
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Post# 424380   4/28/2020 at 13:45 (1,457 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)        

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My new to me Rainbow E Series single speed was delivered yesterday. As you can see, it needs quite a bit of cleanup. It was loaded with spider webs, and dead spiders in the water pan. It also looks like it was stored with dirty water in the pan, judging by the dried caked on mud. It did come with a 4 quart pan, so that is a plus. What would be the best way to clean up the white scrapes off the dolly and power nozzle?

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Post# 424381 , Reply# 1   4/28/2020 at 13:53 (1,457 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Wow!

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That machine saw a good time. A lot of $$ was spent on that, only to not care for it properly.
Simple Green should remove a lot of those scuffs, as will a little Bon Ami
Good luck w/ your new machine!


Post# 424382 , Reply# 2   4/28/2020 at 14:45 (1,457 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
Wow!

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Never ceases to amaze me the shape these Rainbows end up. That said, it is probably 20 years old. Still, if I had bought a 90s Rainbow brand new it wouldn't be in that state.

What's your plan for this? If you refurbish inside and out (which I hope you do) you should add your progress to this thread or even better, make a video.


Post# 424383 , Reply# 3   4/28/2020 at 15:01 (1,457 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)        

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I plan to fix it up. Already ordered new Hepa filter for it, and replacement attachments for the ones missing. May take a while, but I'll get her whipped back into shape.

Post# 424390 , Reply# 4   4/28/2020 at 16:21 (1,457 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)        

The filtration on these is not good, and it isn't practical to have to take them all apart and wash the innards after every use. 

 

That's why there so many out there that are in such terrible condition. One can only imagine what one of these left WITH THE WATER AND SCUMMY dirt in it smells like after just a few days...   a month......And the exhaust if you were to turn it on in your house would be full of mold spores.

Totally unsanitary.


Post# 424399 , Reply# 5   4/28/2020 at 21:20 (1,457 days old) by Electroluxxxx (……)        

The white scuffs can easily be removed with 91% rubbing alcohol and a microfiber cloth. As for the machine good buy and it’s also an earlier model (98-99 maybe 1st or second quarter 2000), early models had the screw on HEPA filter cover and the later ones had the snap on covers. The E-series single speed machines used 2 different types of motors and filters, one was a lamb, the other a GS electric and they weren’t made to be completely torn down other than carbons replaced and the fan and housing cleaned, as for filters one type had the filter material completely exposed and had a seal around the edge of the filter the other was a cassette with a square opening, there were also 2 types of motor filters too, one was a fiber material the other hepa material that kept the carbon dust from escaping the machine. Those 4qt basins although common aren’t too common (contradictive I know). When these machines come in for service, they are actually easier in my opinion to service than say a D4 and if well taken care of will filter, clean well and last a long time. As for my rainbow knowledge I only service hundreds of rainbows (just about all rainbow models) a year so... I wouldn’t know much at all. 😉

Post# 424409 , Reply# 6   4/28/2020 at 22:50 (1,457 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Mike, may I call you Mike?

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Don't be so hard on yourself. Let me do it for you.


Post# 424410 , Reply# 7   4/28/2020 at 22:54 (1,457 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
as you know,

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my only "rainbow connection" is regarding Judy Garland, Skittles.........................etc.
But, I am not one to bash.


Post# 424415 , Reply# 8   4/29/2020 at 00:33 (1,457 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
@ gregvacs

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He's only going to disassemble/clean because the Rainbow he bought has been to hell and back. If a rainbow owner takes care of their machine (which unfortunately MOST don't) you won't have any issues you mentioned..

Post# 424436 , Reply# 9   4/29/2020 at 11:19 (1,456 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)        
Mark405

Yes, I'm sure IF people did as they're supposed to and clean it out, it would probably work OK.

The same goes for ANY bagless vacuum with it's fine dust catching filters, if people would only do-the-correct-thing and clean them regularly, they'd work OK

 

(sigh) But human nature what it is, most people are NOT vacuum aficionado's like us.  They want to get their vacuum task over as quick as possible or avoid it altogether. 

 

So having vacuums that are reasonable with easy quick change bags and simple to use attachments is necessary for the masses. 

They are the depraved vacuum slobs that need our pity and understanding as they still need to vacuum their own environs the likes of which we may be exposed to. 


Post# 424437 , Reply# 10   4/29/2020 at 11:30 (1,456 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)        
John

I'm sure Judy Garland would approve of your venue.  Very colorful and cheerful.


Post# 424441 , Reply# 11   4/29/2020 at 12:45 (1,456 days old) by Juju93 (South Georgia)        

This may sound like a random question but, what other floor cleaner can be used in the rainjet other than the clean floor solution. Like can I use the solution from the swifter WetJet as well as some other choices, like pine sole, mr clean. Of course I know majority of the solution has to be water with a cap or two of solution. But I’m curious to what other solution options there are for the rainjet.

Post# 424444 , Reply# 12   4/29/2020 at 13:26 (1,456 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)        
Never ever use Pine Sol

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or any other pine oil based cleaner in the Rainjet or similar cleaners. They will have an adverse reaction with the plastics and damage them. This is directly from the Hoover Floormate book I have.

Post# 424472 , Reply# 13   4/29/2020 at 21:46 (1,456 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Clean

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If you want to clean the water pan. You fill it up completely with water put dish soap or green clean. Let it soak about 36 hours. You can use a higher pressure hose and after you fill and empty a hose should get almost everything off it.
The scuffs don't use alcohol it dries up the sheen on the plastic. You only use alcohol if disinfecting/sanitizing or removing sticky and permanent marker. Get a green scrubber or Mr clean pads and wipe it down.
The majority just a wet rag and rinse.
I've tore apart 3 single speeds a few months ago. I'm not sure what runs and what doesn't. I got them for free and figured one should be able to be salvaged.
The 2 versions of the one speed is the motor that is most desirable the 10 amp 12 with power nozzle or the lesser powred one?
Les


Post# 424487 , Reply# 14   4/30/2020 at 07:20 (1,456 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)        
Well, I got brave last night

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Well, I got the initial cleanup done and it looks a lot better. Decided to be brave and plug it in and see what would happen. Filled the pan, plugged it in and turned it on. I put some Rainbow scent drops in the pan, and it ran great. Bearings sound good, and the machine has great suction. Then suddenly the room went dark. I thought a circuit breaker tripped, and I think I said every cuss word I know, and maybe even made up a few. As I was getting ready to check the breaker box, power came back on. Darned SCE. They couldn’t have timed it better if they had planned it.

Post# 424491 , Reply# 15   4/30/2020 at 08:57 (1,456 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
Hahaha

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a strange coincidence. Those kinds of coincidences freaks me out.

You can be sure that if it looks that bad on the outside, the inside is probably just as bad. The fans and housing could possibly be caked with dirt.


Post# 424495 , Reply# 16   4/30/2020 at 09:30 (1,455 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)        
You're right Mark.

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It definitely has a date with a screwdriver this weekend.


Post# 424497 , Reply# 17   4/30/2020 at 10:35 (1,455 days old) by Juju93 (South Georgia)        

I have another random question to ask for my fellow Rainbow experts. What other solution can I use in the aquamate/ MiniJet accessories other than the aquamate solution. Also when using the sprayer/ rexafoamer attachment, what other solution can be used for that, since it’s a foam solution.

Post# 424517 , Reply# 18   4/30/2020 at 14:34 (1,455 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)        

Just a suggestion to make clean up of dirty non-electric parts:   after you get everything disassembled put them in a dishwasher.

 

It can do wonders in clean and save you time and effort.  You have to be careful what parts, though....


Post# 424526 , Reply# 19   4/30/2020 at 16:56 (1,455 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
I was just looking at that large basin

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and it started me thinking .. the way it's shaped, it looks like it would be a PAIN to clean in comparison to the regular basin.

Post# 424527 , Reply# 20   4/30/2020 at 18:17 (1,455 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Nm

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I looked at all the pics again and noticed the model you have and it answered my question.
Hmm I got 2 rainbows fully unassembled and if I put dishes away it's going to be empty. I may throw them in there and see how well they clean.
There was a rainbow thread started maybe end of last year and had slot of replies. The solution comparable with rainbow and Kirby's. I believe it starts with a p. It got renamed as my wife got some and it's name had changed.
Les


Post# 424852 , Reply# 21   5/4/2020 at 17:09 (1,451 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)        
Well, I opened it up to replace the HEPA filter

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and this is what I found. What a mess. The filter is so clogged, I'm surprised it has any suction at all. The first picture is the filter, the second is the filter compartment. I'm just speechless.

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Post# 424853 , Reply# 22   5/4/2020 at 17:24 (1,451 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
That's actually

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close to being the worst ones I've ever seen! Damn! Whoever used this thing didn't know what the HELL they were doing.

I'm sure you'll get a lot of satisfaction cleaning it up and making it look as close to new as possible. I think these 1 speeds have a cooling filter on top of the motor too.


Post# 424854 , Reply# 23   5/4/2020 at 17:30 (1,451 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)        

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There is a cooling filter on top but I haven’t gotten there yet. I’m afraid to see what condition that one is in too.

Post# 424874 , Reply# 24   5/4/2020 at 21:48 (1,451 days old) by rivstg1 (colorado springs)        

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Holy clogs Batman! That is THE worst filter I've seen

Post# 424877 , Reply# 25   5/4/2020 at 23:07 (1,451 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Wow

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It looks like the sucked up drywall or plaster maybe even paint.
Les


Post# 424887 , Reply# 26   5/5/2020 at 07:34 (1,451 days old) by Chris (WV)        

Im betting it was used without water or used to clean out a fireplace

Post# 424889 , Reply# 27   5/5/2020 at 10:34 (1,450 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        

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I'm trying to figure out how that filter fits in...Is the entire square covered by filter? I'm thinking it can't be because those rainbow's filters aren't that large. I guess I'm puzzled why there's caked dirt outside of where the filter would actually be. I guess it got so clogged it had to have somewhere to go. I know on mine, it's a small oval opening and the filter has a gasket....most of the dirty 2 speeds I've seen, you don't see any dirt at all until the filter is taken completely out, then you see it.

Post# 424897 , Reply# 28   5/5/2020 at 12:18 (1,450 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)        
My Rainbow

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Is the E Series E-2 Single speed. This is the first with the HEPA filter. The entire filter fits into the opening. The side I pictured is the side that faces inside the opening. The side that faces outside is not caked, but has water/liquid stains on it. After cleaning it out, the air flow is so much better, and the exhaust air is noticeably cooler than before. I'm gonna order more filters and keep an eye on it.

Post# 424902 , Reply# 29   5/5/2020 at 14:49 (1,450 days old) by Juju93 (South Georgia)        

Hey quick question. Is the MiniJet safe to use for cleaning stains off of mattresses, such as coffee and stains?

Post# 424910 , Reply# 30   5/5/2020 at 16:58 (1,450 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        

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Ok so the filter goes into the opening......so then how is that dirt all around the opening completely away from the filter?

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Post# 424943 , Reply# 31   5/6/2020 at 07:53 (1,450 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)        
Good question

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This is the first model that used a HEPA exhaust filter, and while the filter fit the compartment, there was room between it and the vacuum body. Looks like the filter got so clogged that dirt had no where to go. I'm willing to bet that they either ran it with not enough water in the pan, or no water in the pan. The old filter was stained so it appears that they may have over filled it at one point. I've NEVER seen one of these so dirty. I also believe they left it full of dirty water because the mud in the water pan was dried up like cement, and difficult to get cleaned out, but I did it. Obviously the people who had this machine before me either had no idea how to take care of it, or as I suspect, didn't really care. I can guarantee that this will never happen to this machine again because I do know how to take care of it and will perform routine PM to keep it running.

Post# 424948 , Reply# 32   5/6/2020 at 10:18 (1,449 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        

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So the filter doesn't have a gasket? It looks like it just pushes back onto the opening.

With the oval filter, it has a gasket that pushes into the oval opening.


Post# 424955 , Reply# 33   5/6/2020 at 14:01 (1,449 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)        
No,

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It's just a pleated filter in a frame. That filter design only lasted for one model from what I understand. But as bad as it was, I don't think any filter would have been much good.

Post# 424963 , Reply# 34   5/6/2020 at 15:28 (1,449 days old) by electroluxxxx (……)        

The filter does have a gasket around the frame, however with the amount of air pressure behind a clogged filter where else does the air have to go other than around the edges. Basically, At that point the filter frame would flex outward regardless of the back cover holding it in place and allow that mess to escape it.

Post# 424967 , Reply# 35   5/6/2020 at 15:53 (1,449 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
Oh, I get how it fits in now

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like in this video demo

the filter looks HUGE! bigger than the 2-speed oval filters. I clearly see the way it fits in now (not what I was expecting.)

It's so weird that the majority of the filter sits up against the side of the body of the vacuum away from the actual square opening.

Oh, and wonder what the goodvac guy was thinking with this music?


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