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Thread Number: 39888
/ Tag: 80s/90s Vacuum Cleaners
Dyson DC04 Motor Transplant? |
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| Post# 423387 4/13/2020 at 17:48 (1,467 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY) | ||
Hi all. I've had an idea for quite some time now. I live in the USA, but I want a Dyson DC04 that is able to run on 120VAC 60Hz. Would it be possible to buy and import a Dyson DC04, and swap the motor and cord with the motor and cord from an American Dyson DC07? I figured that since the DC04 and DC07 are so similar, it would be possible to swap motors without too much trouble.
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| Post# 423391 , Reply# 1 4/13/2020 at 18:50 (1,467 days old) by Turbo360 (North TX) | ||
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| Post# 423399 , Reply# 2 4/13/2020 at 19:33 (1,467 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA) | ||
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| Post# 423409 , Reply# 3 4/13/2020 at 20:25 (1,466 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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| Post# 423414 , Reply# 4 4/13/2020 at 21:15 (1,466 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA) | ||
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Les - I don't really know the difference in the motor itself. It depends on the design. I would think that both the field coil AND the armature are entirely different, at least in terms of the windings. Likely, they both have windings made of smaller wire and more turns for 240v - I think. Because higher voltage needs less wire thickness, and lower voltage, more thickness. So like a 12v car blower motor has really thick windings, and only the armature has windings, as the field is a permanent magnet (cuz it's DC), and that makes the total number of turns in the motor lower. So the reverse should also be true. More turns = more length = more resistance to handle higher voltage. Smaller wire also adds resistance.
I'm no expert on the mathematical part of electricity. But I'm looking at ohm's law, and it looks like if you have a 7A 120v vacuum (840w), its motor would have a ~17ohm resistance. V/A=R. In order to have the exact same wattage in the UK, which would be 3.5A on 240v, that would be 240v/3.5a = 68.5ohms. You'd need quadruple the resistance in the motor. However, this is a mathematical ideal, because a motor usually has a low resistance at rest and it becomes higher when it's being run, among other factors. | ||
| Post# 423461 , Reply# 5 4/14/2020 at 10:00 (1,466 days old) by Rdwdcp (UK) | ||
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Crazykirbydude I thought you hated Dysons | ||
| Post# 423467 , Reply# 6 4/14/2020 at 12:47 (1,466 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY) | ||
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| Post# 423468 , Reply# 7 4/14/2020 at 12:50 (1,466 days old) by Rdwdcp (UK) | ||
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oh which DC04 Model do you want | ||
| Post# 423472 , Reply# 8 4/14/2020 at 13:40 (1,466 days old) by repairman (Woodridge, IL) | ||
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I think it can be done. DC04s either came with an Ametek or a YDK motor. According to some listings on eBay, the YDK motor fits the DC04, DC07, & DC14. You should be able to buy one with a YDK motor and then transplant a YDK motor from a DC07 or DC14 into the machine. | ||
| Post# 423475 , Reply# 9 4/14/2020 at 14:03 (1,466 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY) | ||
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Rdwdcp...
Eh, I'm not picky. I'd really like a DC04 De Stijl or Absolute+, but any DC04 will do. I just have to find someone in the UK willing to let go of one for cheap or free, because shipping and import duties are gonna be a doozy. I think it would be interesting to play around with an early dual cyclone Dyson, because the first Dyson to come out in the U.S.A. was the DC07, which has root cyclone technology. Before that, we had Fantom vacuums, which were produced under an agreement with Dyson. I also considered a Japanese G-Force, as it would not require any conversion, as the Japanese use 120VAC 60Hz electricity like we do here in the U.S.A, but finding one would be nearly impossible.
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| Post# 423489 , Reply# 10 4/14/2020 at 14:54 (1,466 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA) | ||
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| Post# 423492 , Reply# 11 4/14/2020 at 15:12 (1,466 days old) by turbo360 (North TX) | ||
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oh but dont forget | ||
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