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Post# 423377   4/13/2020 at 16:32 (1,473 days old) by jbowie31 (Boston Ma)        

Hello folks, I am looking to purchase a new Aerus Lux Legacy canister to replace my Miele C3 Cat & Dog. I have an older Electrolux Epic that I have since retired to the garage for car duty and replaced it with the Miele. I am less than impressed with the Miele and will be looking to purchase a new Aerus. The shop where I used to go has since closed and merged with another in my area. I really like the guys who ran the place 2 brothers and I really trusted them. The new shop I am not a fan of very high-pressure sales style. I am curious as to what prices people have been paying for there Lux Legacy units? Also, if anyone has a salesperson they know and trust please pass their info along to me. Any help is appreciated!

Post# 423379 , Reply# 1   4/13/2020 at 16:47 (1,473 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )        

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@jbowie31 I would contact Tom @dysonvacman on here he is a dealer.

Having used a Miele c3 and the Guardian Platinum.
I'm not sure if they'll be really any advantage to one over the other.
I think the hoses and cords are too short on both of those vacuums. That's just my humble opinion.

If you like the nostalgia of Electrolux you might also take a look at a clean obsessed/perfect vacuum.






Post# 423380 , Reply# 2   4/13/2020 at 16:49 (1,473 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)        

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The guy here in Lexington, KY is a great guy. He'll give you up to $200 trade in credit for your old Epic 6500. His price for the Aerus Legacy is $1800 IIRC. The phone number is 859-278-6015.

Post# 423386 , Reply# 3   4/13/2020 at 17:44 (1,473 days old) by beagledad (Florida)        

The Aerus Legacy is a nice vacuum. But I couldn't spend $1800 on a vacuum that doesn't even have a HEPA filter. That's just me though.

Post# 423403 , Reply# 4   4/13/2020 at 19:57 (1,472 days old) by Lux_Luthor (Tennessee)        

Call Ray Satterwhite at 1-866-343-0909. He owns Aerus of Richmond VA and gave me a lower price for the Guardian Platinum than the prices above. I don’t live near there, he shipped it to me.

Post# 423441 , Reply# 5   4/14/2020 at 02:10 (1,472 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)        

There are clear differences between the 3 Aerus models but most different is the Platinum which has a European made canister with American made attachments. Hybrid Electrolux AB of Sweden and US Aerus. You probably already know this though.

The other two models are strictly US models and the Lux Classic uses the traditional metal wand system whereas the LuLegacy uses the plastic wand system. I’m so used to the traditional metal that I’m not sure I’d like the change, but it’s all in what you are used to and happiest with.

My advice is test all of them out thoroughly and perhaps you have already. I have a Lux Legacy I got barely used from a thrift shop so I was lucky but haven’t used it much to determine if I really like the plastic wand system or not. I have several Electrolux’s all with the metal wand system I do like the Lux Legacy’s tool storage on top of the unit a lot as I am a constant attachment user while cleaning. The automatic control is nice but not needed, and the power nozzle with headlight is nice but not needed either so for me the choice comes down to the wand system and attachment accessibility.

Get them to negotiate in a flip over rug and floor tool in the deal. It’s bar far my most favorite tool of all time and is really handy for quick clean ups where you have to do a doormat or small area rug such as in a bathroom or kitchen or by a door and don’t have time to get the power nozzle out, this way you just pull the nozzle off the elbow, flip it, and snap it back on and you can go from floors to rugs. Also it’s useful for delicate rugs for thorough cleaning with straight suction.

Post# 424300 , Reply# 6   4/26/2020 at 20:02 (1,459 days old) by ridgidwd0670 (se wood co ohio)        

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Aerus models:

Lux Classic entry-line
Legacy mid-range
Guardian Platinum top-of-line

Post# 424307 , Reply# 7   4/26/2020 at 21:00 (1,459 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
wand system

 I'm also not a fan of the plastic wand system because it's nonstandard. With the metal wand system, you can hook up other attachments and even other power nozzles if you want to. I like being able to mix up my cleaners and attachments, for example, use my Sebo power nozzle with my Aerus classic, etc. You can't do that with the plastic wand system.
Mike

Post# 424322 , Reply# 8   4/26/2020 at 23:09 (1,459 days old) by S2_82 (Ohio)        

N0oxy, what all power nozzles work with the classic, do you need special fittings to make it work?

Post# 424406 , Reply# 9   4/28/2020 at 22:39 (1,457 days old) by DJub85 (Virginia)        

The Classic works with any metal wand PN, all the way back to the first electric hose on the 1205, though there are probably some variations in the early years with the PN cord connection on the wand. I can't recall if they all used the same plug from the PN to the hose or if the early electric hoses had a different connection.

The connection absolutely is the same from the Silverado Deluxe to present day. It was probably the same several machines before that, but I feel like my old 1205 had a funny plug at the wand.

The Legacy works with **most** plastic wand PNs. The Legacy was formerly known as the Epic 6000 (steel wands, not compatible unless a new hose is fitted), but the Epic 6500 introduced plastic wands. Also the Renaissance machines (including the Epic 8000, Guardian) used the same plastic wands and have a compatible PN.

The Guardian Ultra and Guardian Platinum machines are the most incompatible of the bunch. They use a unique plastic want shape that doesn't work with the long line of Epic/Legacy/Renaissance plastic wand systems and power nozzles.

I personally don't have a problem with the plastic wands. In some ways, I prefer them. When I use my Epic 6000 steel wand machine, I have to manually unplug the PN cord from the wand when I switch to the floor tool. With the plastic wands, the power is transmitted inside the wand, so all you have to do is disconnect the PN and snap the floor tool on. No cord to worry with. And I like that the plastic wands don't fall apart... we've all had a steel wand or accessory slide apart before.

That being said, Aerus is in dire need of an updated wand system. They need a modern steel telescoping wand that can work with the Classic, Legacy, and Platinum that doesn't have a dangling cord at the PN (like the old school steel wands) and that isn't plastic (like the Legacy and Platinum). But they also need to make the Legacy and Classic machines HEPA, considering the entry price, and I personally think the Legacy or a new 4th model could go cordless/battery electric. A Classic/Legacy-bodied machine running on battery power would be a major step forward for the brand.

Post# 424459 , Reply# 10   4/29/2020 at 19:55 (1,456 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
power nozzles

 I'm pretty sure you can connect a classic hose to a legacy and it will work, I don't think this works on the Guardian Platinum though. My 1205 uses the standard hose for the metal canisters so it will work with most power nozzles, but I'm not sure if all 1205 models were this way. The metal wand system uses the standard two pin connection that is common on many canisters, so the cord from most power nozzles will plug right in, I've used the Sebo ET2, several of the Centec nozzles since I have a corded wand for them, the Lindhaus PB14 pro, the Eureka Express, the Riccar power nozzle and the Wessel-Werk ebk340 and ebk360. The only other thing I have to use is a short power nozzle extension cord since the cord on some of the power nozzles is not quite long enough to reach the hose, but those nozzles will work great with Aerus cleaners if you can use the metal wand system.
Mike

Post# 424469 , Reply# 11   4/29/2020 at 21:22 (1,456 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)        

DJub85: With the metal wand system you don’t have to unplug the power nozzle from the wand to switch to the floor tool if you have the accessory plastic or aluminum wands. We always were supplied with them with any Electrolux as standard and I believe they are still included but in plastic with the Lux Classic and it was suggested to keep the two accessory wands assembled together with the flip over rug and floor tool attached and stored with the power nozzle and it’s wand... this way, there was no wiring to unplug and no bending down to do, just change at the handle by taking off the power nozzle and it’s wand assembly and putting on the pre assembled accessory wands with floor brush onto the main hose handle.

I have a bad back so bending down isn’t something favorable to me (nor is pushing around an upright) hence I love my Electrolux canisters for the light weight and the convenience of changing from power nozzle to floor tool without bending down at all.

I have both the metal wand system and now a Lux Legacy with the plastic wands. I want a second pair of wands to pair with the floor brush because I’m so used to the old system of changing at the handle with no bending down.

Jon

Post# 424494 , Reply# 12   4/30/2020 at 09:29 (1,456 days old) by JustJunque (Western MA)        
Jon,

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Good idea with getting a second set of wands for the Legacy. I always just switch out the power nozzle and flip floor tool. But, for now, my back allows me to do so. I sympathize with you.
With my Ambassador III however, it was missing the non powered wands when I got it, and I bought a pair of the aluminum wands instead of the plastic that would have been correct for it. I just like the aluminum ones better. On that one, I keep the flip floor tool attached to the metal wands, exactly as you suggested. Very convenient!

Barry

Post# 424500 , Reply# 13   4/30/2020 at 11:42 (1,456 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)        
Yes, I like the metal wands better

 Yes, I like the metal wands much better than the plastic ones. Electrolux produced them in both aluminum and stainless steel. Earliest they were steel, then sometime in the 60s they went to aluminum, and then in the mid 80s...during or after the Diamond Jubilee era they started making them out of what looks like a nickel steel. Then when they began using the Canadian models those had been changed to be plastic by the Canadian company at some point so the Lexan plastic bodied models continued with the plastic wands as well. Once the Ultralux LX was taken out of production, and the Renaissance took its place it seems the metal accessory wands were no longer included with any model.

Because I have multiple Electrolux’s I have the wands in all of the varieties except their plastic ones, but they are virtually generic plastic ones which I have some of from other machines. The plastic accessory wands do seem flimsy, especially when one always primarily used metal ones like me. I like the aluminum ones for the lighter weight but they can dent or bend easier.

In thinking about it, one could use the aluminum, steel, or plastic 1 1/4” wands with a Lux Legacy or Guardian, and leave the plastic electric wands dedicated to the power nozzle. You’d have to put the adapter piece that allows use of the combination dusting brush/upholstery tool on the handle, then add the wands but you’d also need a either a floor brush or combination flip tool elbow that fits on the 1 1/4 wands. The adapter also allows use of any straight suction non electric standard 1 1/4” accessory made by Aerus Electrolux or any other company for that matter. I think even the new Guardian Platinum now includes the adapter piece and they are widely available.

Post# 424502 , Reply# 14   4/30/2020 at 11:55 (1,456 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)        
1205 detail

 All models, including the 1205, and models before down to the AF, used the standard round two prong electric system for the extension of power out to the power nozzle. Only some CB used a three wire system that is not compatible. The earliest of 1205’s just used an outlet below the hose opening on the bag door with a pigtail hose end or an external wire wrap around the hose. At the handle end, most 1205s used a metal handle and the outlet was dual sided at the transitional collar between the handle and hose material. This was paired with a blue sheath on the power nozzle wand that had the a longer sheath cord that ran through it and exited several inches below the top and hung there and one had to plug the sheath cord into the outlet on the hose collar. An early version of the automatic connection was made on those early 1205s similar to the handle and sheath system that was reintroduced on the Golden Jubilee and is still standard today on the Aerus Lux Classic, but it didn’t fare well, the power nozzle wand was plastic and the lower section steel and the plastic section tended to crack. It was telescopic with two settings, fully retracted or fully extended. It was quickly scrapped for the steel reinforced version.

Post# 424528 , Reply# 15   4/30/2020 at 18:21 (1,455 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Weird

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The person who asked for advice only posted once. This whole thread and no reply back but the thread still keeping on.
Les

Post# 424533 , Reply# 16   4/30/2020 at 19:18 (1,455 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)        

Yes, I noticed same, but it seemed to finish but then another member asked about wand adaptability which probably should have been a new thread. Oh well, these threads end up like conversations at a party where they go on for a while and take different directions sometimes but that’s ok. And I know I am chatty to say the least but I do enjoy my Electrolux’s and knowledge and hopefully people are enjoying reading my contributions and if it’s too much for them I’m sure they can skim over or skip.

Post# 424612 , Reply# 17   5/1/2020 at 18:52 (1,454 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
True

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better to add onto this thread instead of stringing along another thread.
Aparantly they don't mind hijacked threads.
Les

Post# 424621 , Reply# 18   5/1/2020 at 21:05 (1,454 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)        

The only problem with hi-jacked threads is as they sink into history, people looking up certain subjects that the the thread is hi-jacked with won't be found.
So if the thread turned out to be something really good or informative, it won't end up getting more attention later on. Unfortunately.

Post# 424623 , Reply# 19   5/1/2020 at 21:22 (1,454 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
True

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But nobody is posting much if anything lately. The search pulls up words in the thread. I don't scroll through thread titles there are too many.
Les

Post# 424625 , Reply# 20   5/1/2020 at 21:36 (1,454 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        

This post has been removed by the member who posted it.

Post# 424626 , Reply# 21   5/1/2020 at 21:38 (1,454 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        
This might be a good time

To inquire if the question in the original post was ever answered.

Post# 424631 , Reply# 22   5/1/2020 at 23:02 (1,454 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Idk

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I haven't been the poster of the thread post anywhere.
Les
To be or not to be that is the wuestion!

Post# 425791 , Reply# 23   5/21/2020 at 00:52 (1,435 days old) by ridgidwd0670 (se wood co ohio)        

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A few yrs ago I bought the Guardian Ultra (with Classic style hose, PN, wands & tools) & its a great vac I've ever had; but I put 'makeshift' accessory clips onto the HEPA filter cover so the combo duster/upholstery tool & long crevice tool store onboard the vac & I also bought two aluminum wands for the Classic bare floor brush because the Classic plastic accessory wands aren't really sturdy enough when I use the floor brush & too heavy for vacing cobwebs close to the ceiling & dusting the ceiling fans & central air vents. The plastic wands (usually equipped with the Classic) don't stay attached very good onto each other or onto the crevice tool or combo dusting brush/upholstery tool

I paid $600 for the 'Guardian Ultra Classic' (Guardian Ultra equipped with pistol grip hose & metal wands for PN & floor brush + Sidekick I)

Post# 425796 , Reply# 24   5/21/2020 at 08:26 (1,435 days old) by Tseg (World Traveller)        

Curious what the OP found deficient in the Miele C3 to see if it is addressed by any of the Aerus vac models.

Post# 425803 , Reply# 25   5/21/2020 at 10:35 (1,435 days old) by jbowie32 (Boston Ma)        

OP here but I had to create a new login because the site didn't recognize my original one. I ended up getting a Lux Legacy from Ray Satterwhite at RVA vacuums and he shipped the vacuum to me no problem. I have an older epic 6500 in the basement that I used before the Miele that I'm gonna send to Ray for restoration. The Miele was definitely a well-engineered machine and I loved how quiet it was but I found it ran very hot and caused an odor. I have a large fluffy dog so I know that has something to do with it but even with the carbon filter it still smelled. I also did not like the Mieles sofa turbo brush I much prefer the Aerus Sidekick. I am very happy with Ray and his above and beyond service. He really believes in the product and it shows! I have saved my login for this account so if anyone has any questions I will be able to actually answer them now!

Post# 425808 , Reply# 26   5/21/2020 at 14:03 (1,435 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)        

I have to second the upvote for the Lux Sidekick. I dropped mine on the hardwood floors and the brush roller was dislodged from the grooves. I was afraid I had broken it. But I removed the screws, cleaned the brush roll, and put the roller back in place and it was good as new. it's a tough tool. I thought for sure that I had destroyed it.

Post# 425813 , Reply# 27   5/21/2020 at 15:25 (1,435 days old) by JustJunque (Western MA)        

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Another big fan of the Sidekick here.
Although, in all fairness, I've never used a comparable accessory of any other brand.
Regarding its toughness:
Agreed. But, if you ever use your Electrolux with Sidekick to clean the car interior, then forget that you left the little guy laying in the driveway, and run over him with the car...😬
Yeah. That was when I was still living at home, and it was Mom's vacuum.
Needless to say, I had to buy her a replacement Sidekick.

Barry

Post# 425824 , Reply# 28   5/21/2020 at 18:51 (1,434 days old) by Lux_Luthor (Tennessee)        

I’m glad Ray could help you out! Power and performance wise, how do you feel the new Lux compared to the C3?

Post# 425851 , Reply# 29   5/22/2020 at 04:31 (1,434 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)        
I have Sharks mini power nozzle

 I have Shark’s mini power nozzle with my rocket. It is very nice and has the geared belt as well and a full electric motor. On the first use I dropped on the driveway and was really annoying with myself, there’s small nick in the plastic, but that’s it, it still works fine thank goodness.

Apparently Kenmore also has motorized ones but I’ve never had the opportunity to try one out.

Jon


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