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Post# 422711   4/3/2020 at 20:09 (210 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        

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I was looking on Craigslist and found this Packard deluxe vacuum for sale.
I'm no expert but I think it's like a sterlevant or a Clements or Cadillac.
It's really old and it is probably rare.

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Post# 422714 , Reply# 1   4/3/2020 at 20:33 (210 days old) by Hoover300 (Central Kentucky)        

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It is a rebadged Royal. I think the bag is off a clements Packard though. If only I was closer,looks like a great project!

Post# 422726 , Reply# 2   4/3/2020 at 22:58 (210 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        

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I didn't see PA Geier on it.
I do have a circa 1927 pa Geier model 88 and a 1928 handvac.
It is not too far if they would ship. I imagine I could sale the bag for price of the vacuum.

Post# 422729 , Reply# 3   4/3/2020 at 23:57 (210 days old) by Hoover300 (Central Kentucky)        
On second thought,

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The bag might be original. Here is Bikerray's thread about the vac, although his is a model 1950 while the above one is model 1949.

Post# 422737 , Reply# 4   4/4/2020 at 07:43 (210 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        

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It is a royal rebranded. I inquired if they would ship.

Post# 422759 , Reply# 5   4/4/2020 at 15:26 (209 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)        

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3rd picture on the craigslist ad shows the model plate, it says PA Geier on it. This machine is identical to my Lincoln. Older model Packards were made by Clements, I think 1940 and earlier. The bag is original to this machine, Clements has a very different bag ring / connector shape. Packards usually seem to have a strange bag design, with a big round metal lid on the top that unscrews to empty the bag. Hard to tell, but I think this one has that bag. Whoever ordered Packards must've spec'ed that weird bag.

Post# 422781 , Reply# 6   4/4/2020 at 19:07 (209 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        

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I thought Clements but wasn't sure. They have not responded back.

Post# 422809 , Reply# 7   4/5/2020 at 09:00 (208 days old) by Oreck_XL (Brooklyn, New York 11211)        

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I've often wondered if the model number corresponds to the year it was produced. If that's true, a 1950 is one of the newest I've seen and would put it at the time of the bathtub era Packard cars. I'm guessing the round bag top was purely for easier emptying. I wonder if any other Clements vacuums had that same bag design?

Post# 422851 , Reply# 8   4/5/2020 at 23:00 (208 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)        

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Bag design - not to my knowledge. I've only seen that easy empty can lid on Packards. If you ask me - and I'm purely speculating here - I would say that Packards and Lincolns *are* related to the car makers in some way. Likely a group of dealerships decided to order some vacuums. That's the only reason I can imagine why the model number is a year (1941, etc). If these were ordered by department stores or appliance companies, it would make more sense to assign model numbers that could actually be useful. Actually it could possibly be just one dealership that sold Lincolns and Packards.

Ironically, the Cadillac brand has zero affiliation with the car maker, it just so happens that Clements liked the name and trademarked it.

Post# 422855 , Reply# 9   4/5/2020 at 23:19 (208 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        

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The ad has been pulled

Post# 428091 , Reply# 10   7/3/2020 at 19:32 by bikerray (Middle Earth)        

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The Packard I have is a rebadged Royal. It was a premium that when you bought a Packard Car they gave you a choice of a vacuum, refrigerator or other appliance.

I would assume that Lincoln also did the same thing.

A friend of mine has a Packard salemans book that mentions all the different items they offered to get you to buy a Packard.

Post# 428115 , Reply# 11   7/3/2020 at 23:35 by Lesinutah (Utah)        

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I have been to quite a few car shows. There are alot of Packard diehards.
Packard didn't last so I'd imagine it's pretty rare.

Post# 428124 , Reply# 12   7/4/2020 at 03:09 by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)        

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Neat. Now I want to see a Packard refrigerator.

Post# 428141 , Reply# 13   7/4/2020 at 10:53 by Lesinutah (Utah)        

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A fridge and make an embelem on that large you made the wheels for the Cadillac.
I was installing 8inch 10 ft long stainless steel direct hot water line and I was filing down the grooves so the coupling would fit and not get stuck. I don't know why but making wheels on a lathe came to my head. When I mean I was installing I mean 5 people using a lift and a come along. I filed and helped place the pipe.

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