Thread Number: 39786
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Better filtration for electrolux |
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Post# 422391 , Reply# 1   3/29/2020 at 11:17 (1,459 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)   |   | |
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I don't have allergies so I don't worry too much about filtration but I understand that for others, it's a pretty serious thing. That said, I find the aftermarket four-layer paper filter bags do a fine job of keeping the bag compartment fairly clean. I'm sure the HEPA bags would be a nice upgrade if you're into trying to maintain a dust-free cleanroom type of environment in your home but it's not really my thing.
I don't know about the canisters but there are optional foam filters available for the (Discovery/Epic/Genesis/etc. twin motor uprights. My Genesis LXe had one at the bottom of the bag compartment. It was in rough shape so I decided to replace it and the best deal I found online was a five-pack, so I retrofitted my Discovery II as well. It's been a couple of years and I still haven't dug my Discovery Plus out of the barn to put one in there as well. That said, I do have a little bit of a reservation about filters in that they cut into airflow a little bit, even when they're pristine and clean, but especially as they get clogged with dirt, so they're a two-edged sword in the sense that it makes a low-maintenance machine just a little more high maintenance as it introduces one of the major disadvantages of bagless machines. |
Post# 422406 , Reply# 3   3/29/2020 at 17:23 (1,459 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)   |   | |
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The Germ Grabber bags were the same as the standard 4-ply bag, the name was just a gimmick. The IOTA bags were their very best...
The current blue bags are absolute crap, go with the Envirocare for paper or the VAC (Vacuum America Clean) bags for HEPA. There is no way to add an after filter to one of those metal body machines other than building something to fit in the blower port. The only thing that would get past the bag with one of those fantastic charcoal filters would be the carbon dust from the motor, and a negligible amount at that... |
Post# 422416 , Reply# 5   3/29/2020 at 20:42 (1,459 days old) by Air-WayCharlie (USA)   |   | |
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Post# 422421 , Reply# 6   3/29/2020 at 21:51 (1,459 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)   |   | |
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Post# 422424 , Reply# 7   3/29/2020 at 22:03 (1,459 days old) by Air-WayCharlie (USA)   |   | |
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Let me make sure we are on the same page here:
Are you referring to the Home Solutions genuine Aerus/Lux blue bags? If so, I am referring to the blue bag made by evacuumstore that is NOT an Aerus/Lux product but their own unique product. The Aerus/Lux bag is paper, the evacuumstore bag is cloth. The evacuumstore product does have the collar glued on but, luckily, I have never had any separation. |
Post# 422426 , Reply# 8   3/29/2020 at 22:20 (1,459 days old) by vaclab (Pickerington, Ohio)   |   | |
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0.3 um Results: DVC 4-Ply Paper = 8400, V.A.C. HEPA = 1650, Perfect HEPA = 370 So the 4-ply paper is relatively lousy and the best is the "Perfect" brand HEPA. BTW, if you filter the exhaust (I've tried), you may manage to reduce the non-toxic carbon emissions a bit, but you will lose airflow and cause the motor to run somewhat hotter. |
Post# 422427 , Reply# 9   3/29/2020 at 22:27 (1,459 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)   |   | |
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Post# 422428 , Reply# 10   3/29/2020 at 22:31 (1,459 days old) by Air-WayCharlie (USA)   |   | |
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Post# 422433 , Reply# 11   3/30/2020 at 03:14 (1,459 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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I don't like the Aerus Bags. Their claim is better filtration than the 4 ply.....I always bought genuine for my Electrolux's, but when I tried these, no way were they better. I buy DVC Brand 4 ply filter bags that work great.......No dust in the bag compartment.......You can find a case of 100 on ebay for around $40 to $50 with free shipping......
Just as a note, I actually called Aerus and sent them an example. They did call me back thanking me for my concern and sent me a new box of 24, which had the same problem......
PSS Make sure the DVC brand bags say 4 ply, it will say so on the bag.....you can also find nos Surething and Germgrabber on Ebay.......
Sincerely,
PR-21 Bud |
Post# 422438 , Reply# 12   3/30/2020 at 07:22 (1,459 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 422446 , Reply# 13   3/30/2020 at 12:37 (1,458 days old) by Preston (SLC UT)   |   | |
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I’ll have to keep an eye out for some of the perfect HEPA bags. Not concerned about the motor carbon but I do have allergies. It’s hard loving the old vacs and Delong with old filter tech... |
Post# 422454 , Reply# 14   3/30/2020 at 14:07 (1,458 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 422456 , Reply# 15   3/30/2020 at 14:17 (1,458 days old) by completenutt (West Hollywood, California)   |   | |
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Post# 422460 , Reply# 16   3/30/2020 at 14:30 (1,458 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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eVacuumStore still has the HEPA Electrolux Style C bags. I'll attach a link.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO crazykirbydude's LINK |
Post# 422480 , Reply# 18   3/30/2020 at 21:44 (1,458 days old) by Preston (SLC UT)   |   | |
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47 for 5 Bucks!! nice! |
Post# 422551 , Reply# 19   4/1/2020 at 00:00 (1,457 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)   |   | |
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Post# 422632 , Reply# 20   4/2/2020 at 08:37 (1,456 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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I have had issues with the present blue Aerus Home Solutions bags as well. Either they get small holes near the bottom of the bag, or the blue sealing strip fails & dirt leaks out at the edges of the sealing strip. Bad enough, I decided to make a HEPA Cloth "liner bag" from a generic Kenmore 5055 HEPA Cloth bag to use with the supply of Home Solutions bags I have left. I would rather have my motor protected & the better filtration the HEPA Cloth bag would provide.
One way you can improve exhaust filtration on the plastic canisters would be to use the HEPA exhaust filter the Guardian Ultra used. It will be a tight fit into the hole for the filter & to use the vacuum as a blower, but if needed you can trim the foam around the tube. While the earlier plastic canisters, like the AP 100/200/280, Ambassador, Diplomat & Epic 6000/6500, may not be fully sealed like the Guardian Ultra, most of the air does go thru the filter & it's only slight leakage occurs. It's a nice little upgrade for any allergy sufferers out there that want to ensure the motor's carbon emissions are filtered out. As for using HEPA Cloth Electrolux Style C HEPA Cloth bags in Canada, JohnnyVac, Hibbert & Tip Top Parts all offer their own in-house brands. I have used the JohnnyVac brand HEPA Cloth bags in my Grand Marquise with good results, & would buy again in a heartbeat. Rob |
Post# 422654 , Reply# 22   4/2/2020 at 19:15 (1,455 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)   |   | |
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I actually did call Aerus about the issue and they mailed me some more of the blue bags. I've seen a number of people here mention it though, I'm certain Aerus is aware that I was not the only one with problems.
I've used the DVC bags for a while, haven't had any problems. They're 4 ply and cheaper than the Home Solutions bags, I've never had one rip even when I was using them in a commercial environment at the restaurant that I used to manage. |
Post# 422659 , Reply# 23   4/2/2020 at 20:34 (1,455 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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I have never had a DVC 4 ply bag rip or leave dirt in the bag compartment. My best friend has two cats, one long haired. When his bag change indicator goes off and opens the door, the bag is always full, unless it has picked up something like flour, which will clog a bag very quick.....
I did send Aerus a bag per their request. They called and said they were sending me a new box of 24, but I never heard anything back from them......I also switched to DVC Brand 4 ply bags...... since my vacuum was no longer under warranty.....
PR-21 Bud
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Post# 422786 , Reply# 25   4/4/2020 at 21:39 (1,453 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)   |   | |
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