Thread Number: 39741
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Post# 421787 , Reply# 1   3/17/2020 at 01:53 (1,473 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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Just got one of those X7 Sebo--Like it a lot-up there with my Kirbys!One of the few clean air machines that truly WORKS!It has a 12A motor and its cord does get warm after you have used it.The cord is long and reaches most to where I have to sweep with it. |
Post# 421803 , Reply# 2   3/17/2020 at 11:28 (1,472 days old) by broomvac (N/A)   |   | |
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Post# 421882 , Reply# 4   3/19/2020 at 06:44 (1,470 days old) by vacfan1982 (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Sebo basically made the changes to get it through the then EU regulations. They improved the emissions with a better exhaust filter reduced the motor wattage and I believe made it a bit more quiet.
I've heard the auto height adjustment has also been improved 🤷 They are only minor changes I'd like to see a redesigned upright from Sebo it's well overdue but I realise it costs a lot in research and development. |
Post# 421999 , Reply# 5   3/21/2020 at 17:22 (1,468 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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I have a X7 which I love. I’ve noticed the difference in performance even without using the boost button it grips the carpet more but still glides over the carpet with ease. The boost feature gives a deeper clean for stubborn dirt or pet hair or to lift down trodden carpet pile. In the UK it has a 890 watt motor but it’s more powerful I think compared to my other 2 X4’s! Not sure on the motor amp for the US version? The automatic height has been updated to work differently and better to previous generations which I’ve noticed! The new foot pedal is taken from a version of the commercial range which has been used on them for a while now! I quite like it.
It does share many parts to the previous 2 X generations but under hood it is different to previous generations. The chassis is completely new along with the hood, new circuit board and wiring setup too! Having seen both with the hood off. I can’t see SEBO ever replacing or completely redesigning the X as it’s one of their most popular models. It’s what 29 years old it was first launched in the UK in 1991 as the X1! Why fix something that’s not broken and works! I know people have different opinions on this! I think it’s sometimes a mis understood model, the idea of the Automatic X is for the user to switch on and go and the machine does all the work for you! The Felix offers the other features like manual height adjustment and variable power if you required though features! Be interesting to see if the Felix gets updated or redesigned with that being about 15 years old now I believe! Probably not as SEBO are not a manufacturer to just change things for the sake of it! They make changes or introduce new models because it’s a ‘real’ change, improvement or update that has a purpose. They might put an LED light on the ET-1 Powerhead! |
Post# 422017 , Reply# 6   3/22/2020 at 00:09 (1,468 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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The X7 I have is 12A@120V. |
Post# 422019 , Reply# 7   3/22/2020 at 04:01 (1,467 days old) by vacfan1982 (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 422060 , Reply# 9   3/23/2020 at 00:35 (1,467 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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The Sebo design-much like Kirby both WORK-so why change them? |
Post# 422062 , Reply# 10   3/23/2020 at 06:13 (1,466 days old) by vacfan1982 (Cardiff)   |   | |
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The Sebo works well for carpet agreed but your average customer is not going to want to purchase an upright for cleaning carpets and a cylinder for hard floors they will want one vacuum to do both so having a clutch system to turn off the brushroll would be a good addition so would an onboard hose to reach to the top of the stairs. It's all about convenience 👍
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Post# 422064 , Reply# 11   3/23/2020 at 09:36 (1,466 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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Post# 422309 , Reply# 12   3/28/2020 at 08:47 (1,461 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Having owned and use the X series both the X4 and X7 I can appreciate the design, engineering and how it is used. I feel the same ‘if it’s not broke don’t fix it’! The automatic X series is one of SEBO’s best selling uprights even today so after 29 years on the market they must be doing something right for it to still be manufactured and sell! The changes in the X7 are welcomed to give it an update!
The X4/X7 works perfectly on hard floors from my personal use and there is always the soft brush roll (green bristles) if you have delicate hard floors or carpets/rugs! I think the average user/customer won’t think of buying an upright for carpets and cylinder/barrel for hard floors! Longs they see it works on hard floors ok for them that’s all they’ll bother about! I see so many people use the X on hard floors fine! I’ve spoke to a few people before about brush roll off, onboard stair hose on the X plus a swivel neck! I see where they are coming from, I’ve thought about it before myself! That’s until I appreciated the design of the X machine so for me I don’t think they are needed. That’s why they developed the Felix to offer a swivel neck and brush roll off features! Plus easy detected body for stair cleaning! For SEBO I think to add these to the X series would be adding extra complex engineering to the design and extra weight to the machine with the stair hose! Plus it would take away surely the very feature many love about it the quick draw hose and wand! You’d be messing around trying to put the long hose away! Plus the added complex air path! SEBO is about making a machine easy to use and maintain that performs and lasts! The automatic X from a general user point of view is about simple switch on and go and it just works! |
Post# 422312 , Reply# 14   3/28/2020 at 09:33 (1,461 days old) by vacfan1982 (Cardiff)   |   | |
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You're forgetting the Vorwerk Mike another fantastic cleaner that you can also attach a hardfloor nozzle. It's a very nice nozzle it pivots so makes it easy to get into corners etc
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Post# 422313 , Reply# 15   3/28/2020 at 10:44 (1,461 days old) by vacfan1982 (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 422323 , Reply# 17   3/28/2020 at 12:01 (1,461 days old) by vacfan1982 (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 422336 , Reply# 18   3/28/2020 at 13:58 (1,461 days old) by S2_82 (Ohio)   |   | |
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I was curious since not too many people talk about the g series. But I agree, the automatic height adjustment would drive me crazy. I always thought you all had them in the UK, interesting. |
Post# 422350 , Reply# 19   3/28/2020 at 19:59 (1,461 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Agree Mike think SEBO are one of the best you can get! I love my Felix it’s very versatile the only thing having now got and used the X machine I prefer the wand and hose on the X for doing around edges, skirting/base boards and in corners as you don’t have to bend! I know you can get an extension wand to use with the Felix if needed.
It’s quite interesting the features people want to see added to the X are on the Felix and the one thing people say the Felix needs is an onboard wand like the X is on that model. Surely you buy the one that suits your needs!? Just a thought! |
Post# 422351 , Reply# 20   3/28/2020 at 20:06 (1,461 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Agree Mark that swivel head for hard floors is fantastic on the Kobold I love using it on my VK150. I just don’t use the tools enough even though they are fantastic to it just a pain having to get them out and attach them lol!
Totally understand Mark your point, I tend to use my Vorwerk or Felix on hard floors but occasionally use my X machine to with no problem. Surprising how many cordless vacuum in the UK in particular have a brush roll/plush brush roll as such to clean hard floors these days! |
Post# 422353 , Reply# 21   3/28/2020 at 20:24 (1,461 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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I know not everyone likes the automatic height adjustment but for the average user to them it makes the job easy as the machine does it for them! It’s a balance between optimal cleaning performance and easy gliding action over floors! So many people in general complain in the UK that their machines are hard to push over carpets because most have the floating head that sticks to the carpet!
I’ve not used a G but I’d say the X7 is on par with the Felix for cleaning! Some have the added boost which I’ve yet hardly used on my X7. The automatic height has been tuned on the X7 so it’s not constantly going up and down as some reported on the X4! Not as I’ve particularly noticed it on my X4’s. I hear the X7 when it’s monitoring the height it senses the flooring 3 times in succession now before it makes any adjustment! I’ve notice it grips the floor more than my older X4’s even without using the boost setting too! |
Post# 422370 , Reply# 22   3/29/2020 at 03:52 (1,461 days old) by vacfan1982 (Cardiff)   |   | |
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One thing I prefer about the X Series is the motor is in the floorhead giving a low centre of gravity so it feels very light to push around, The Felix has the motor further up in the body and you can feel the weight more. When we had the EU ratings for carpet performance the Felix had a B rating and the X7 had a D rating so that did put me off the X7 a bit
But it's still a another possible purchase. |
Post# 422375 , Reply# 23   3/29/2020 at 07:37 (1,460 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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You can feel the weight a bit more on the Felix compared to the X when using them both as an upright machine. Interesting the VK140, VK150 and VK200 all have the motor at the top of the main body, you do feel the motor is there but they are lighter than the Felix. Both use different motors, the SEBO is a conventional motor whereas the Vorwerk use brushless motors that are lighter and smaller!
Be interesting if SEBO use these motors in the future suppose it depends on their reliability too! The Felix/Dart is about 15 years old now so that may have an update to it soon or may not! I’d love to see the LED light off the X7 on the ET-1 Powerhead that would be fantastic! It did but I never took any of though ratings to seriously more a rough guide for me as every home is different and different vacuum cleaners perform differently in each home! More interesting is SEBO in the UK is the only floor care brand to be independently recommended and endorsed by all the leading carpet manufacturers as the best way to care and maintain your carpets! Each machine is put through rigorous tests by these carpet manufacturers independently to SEBO. Quite an achievement I think for the brand. |
Post# 422376 , Reply# 24   3/29/2020 at 07:44 (1,460 days old) by vacfan1982 (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 422384 , Reply# 25   3/29/2020 at 10:08 (1,460 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)   |   | |
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I don't think the Vorwerk machines are available in the United States. Does Vorwerk do any canisters or just uprights? Mike |
Post# 422386 , Reply# 26   3/29/2020 at 10:34 (1,460 days old) by vacfan1982 (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Yes they do 😊 You're right they aren't available in the US sadly.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO vacfan1982's LINK |
Post# 422390 , Reply# 27   3/29/2020 at 11:09 (1,460 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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I love my Vorwerk VK150 it’s used for mopping and vacuuming hard floors and vacuuming carpets and hard floors too along with my SEBO’s! Both do a fantastic job. I briefly had the VK200 too which was great. The reason I use my SEBO more is the handy onboard tools, the Vorwerk tool kit is fantastic but I’ve not use it for nearly 2 years! That’s what makes it so light and nimble in Upright mode. You have to change the way you clean and do tool work say first then the main floor last for example! This can be time consuming!
There was talk of Vorwerk bringing the Kobold upright and the Tiger canister to the United States but not sure if they will! I would say the Tiger would be more suitable and more versatile too for this market. |
Post# 422398 , Reply# 28   3/29/2020 at 12:44 (1,460 days old) by vacfan1982 (Cardiff)   |   | |
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