Thread Number: 39645
/ Tag: Pre-1950 Vacuum Cleaners
1925 Scott fitzer |
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Post# 420621 , Reply# 1   2/25/2020 at 22:02 (1,513 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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The scott fetzer sanitation system 1928.
The eeze 1914 The wireless vacuette 1919 The electric vacuette 1925 The scott and fetzer sanitation system 1928. The bag graphics are a little faded. The handle is in good condition. The vacuum seems intact and good shape. Your going to hear as much as someone will pay is the value. I've seen these sell for a few dollars to a few hundred dollars. You will get a few good offers I suspect. It's a rare great condition kirby. There are groves of kirby collectors. Les |
Post# 420623 , Reply# 2   2/25/2020 at 22:09 (1,513 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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That's an early vacuum cleaner manufactured by the Kirby Company. Scott-Fetzer is Kirby's parent company, and still is to this very day. This particular model was made from 1926-1934. The subsequent model, the Kirby Model C, which was released in 1935, was the first vacuum to bear the "Kirby" name. As far as value goes, there's a saying on here that states that it's only worth as much as someone will pay for it. Yours seems to be in pretty rough shape, so my guess is anywhere from $60-$100, and that's only if it runs. If it doesn't work, then it would probably be worth under $60. Don't think you're sitting on a gold mine, however. If it was in working condition with all of the parts and a bag that wasn't torn and faded, you could probably get $175 from the right person. Hope this helps!
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Post# 420627 , Reply# 3   2/25/2020 at 22:23 (1,513 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Um I think that is off. It's worth more than $100. I'm not going out on a limb. There was a model c that sold a few months ago.i know how much it sold for and who bought it.
I'd say this is in good shape. It looks close to a vaçuette. If it's $175 Sold. I just seen an emtor from a 2c and a bag sale for $125. I was 3 minutes to late trying to buy. It's no gold mine but it's a good condition rare kirby. Les |
Post# 420631 , Reply# 4   2/25/2020 at 23:14 (1,513 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)   |   | |
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Post# 420633 , Reply# 5   2/25/2020 at 23:27 (1,513 days old) by bnsd60m9200 (Akron OH)   |   | |
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with the front axle and wheels missing, therefore making the model incomplete and not properly malfunctioning, you probably wont get more than $100 for it. missing or replaced original components on these models makes a huge impact on what people will pay, since original replacement parts for these are ungodly hard to come by.
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Post# 420636 , Reply# 6   2/26/2020 at 02:27 (1,513 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)   |   | |
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As with most antiques, the rarer something is, the less condition affects the value. For a what is it now, 100(?) year old vacuum I'd say it's pretty good shape. If that's the original bag, it more than makes up for the missing wheels, and the Sani-Emptor decal is virtually perfect.
Like MadMan said - I am sure the Kirby collectors on here will be fighting tooth and nail to get an offer in after seeing this, lol That said sometimes special stuff does slip through the cracks and gets missed by everyone, and can go for a cheaper price than normal. If the person that wants it only wants it as a vintage display piece to sit on the floor as decoration and not a runner (I hope not), I am sure the missing wheels wouldn't harm the value to that buyer. You can always put temporary wheels on too. I have a Filtex (Filtrex?) Model #1 canister vacuum, and it has no back wheels. (I bought it off eBay for $10 from some guy that found it in the trash on the side of the road in the rain). I bought a pair of wheels from a brand new Hoover upright and stuck them on the axles and I have those in place of the original wheels until I find a pair. |
Post# 420640 , Reply# 7   2/26/2020 at 06:52 (1,513 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 420641 , Reply# 8   2/26/2020 at 07:56 (1,513 days old) by KirbyCollector (Columbus Ohio USA)   |   | |
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Post# 420642 , Reply# 9   2/26/2020 at 08:00 (1,513 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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Post# 420644 , Reply# 10   2/26/2020 at 08:42 (1,513 days old) by chicagomike (Plover, WI)   |   | |
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Post# 420671 , Reply# 11   2/26/2020 at 15:36 (1,512 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)   |   | |
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Why do you have such a negative attitude? You can go to the hardware store and get some solid metal rod, cut to fit, then get wheels of similar size to what was on it. Easy fix.
www.homedepot.com/b/Hardw... |
Post# 420673 , Reply# 12   2/26/2020 at 15:37 (1,512 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)   |   | |
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Post# 420683 , Reply# 13   2/26/2020 at 18:33 (1,512 days old) by chicagomike (Plover, WI)   |   | |
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Please make me laugh even more, I have a negative attitude how for stating the truth?
Here is some negative attitude for you, I looked at everything in the wonderful link you shared with the world. Like most news networks in today's times you shared fake news/fake process/fake link by saying something from 1 of HomeDepot's 40 results for Steel Metal Sheets & Rods would work as an axle. Just -- "get some solid metal rod, cut to fit" - "easy fix".... Because you said it, it must be true!!! YOU NEED TO STOP SPREADING FAKE NEWS AS YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT - THE TRUTH IS, IT 100% WILL TAKE MORE WORK THEN CUTTING A METAL ROD TO LENGTH TO FIX IT. And here is some more negative attitude for you --- then you knock bikerray for "could have kindly educated me on what year it was from" - SERIOUSLY? Why did you not educate me on which 1 of the 40 metal items you would buy, and then cut it to length for an easy fix? Why did you not educate me on what "wheels" are "of similar size" with your fake reply? I can tell you why you did not educate me on either one, because you have no clue what you are talking about :) I would like to thank you though Huskyvacs, as you reminded me why I stopped visiting Vacuumland on a daily basis, it is because of people like you. |
Post# 420684 , Reply# 14   2/26/2020 at 18:34 (1,512 days old) by Hmc1981 (St. Augustine, Florida)   |   | |
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It could polish up nice that I believe. This model had its floor height adjustment off of the front axle, so some fairly important equipment is missing. And I’m generally optimistic about finding parts, but on a machine of this vintage I wouldn’t count on finding what’s needed anytime soon. And if you do find it, chances are it’ll be part of another whole machine.
If money is what you are after, eBay is your greatest chance. If the machine was in good working order, you certainly could get far more than $175. This site really isn’t the best place to try to sell, just saying. You could of course modify the machine to have an axle and wheels in the front, but at the same time, if you are trying to sell it, leave it as is and let the buyer do as he or she wishes. It has potential. But... that front axle is quite important to the functionality of the machine. Anything other than what was designed to fit there is incorrect, and to collectors, will likely be a concern, but not to all. At the end of the day, you have people who demand more and people who will settle for less. Both willing to spend their money. There’s no point in anyone arguing over price or condition or how someone would choose to make the machine work until the right parts come along (if they ever do). This site can be so frustrating at times. All the guy wanted to know was an idea of what it might be worth and it’s gone so off topic because people are rude to one another and get their feelings hurt. It’s so stupid. To the OP: list it on eBay and stop wasting your time with this site. |
Post# 420685 , Reply# 15   2/26/2020 at 18:42 (1,512 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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Post# 420686 , Reply# 16   2/26/2020 at 18:52 (1,512 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 420689 , Reply# 17   2/26/2020 at 20:04 (1,512 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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The Scott & Fetzer Sanitation System was made between 1928 to 1934 according to Kirby.
The front axle was detachable and had a sleeve on it for adjusting the nozzle height. Here's two shots from the manual |
Post# 420694 , Reply# 18   2/26/2020 at 20:53 (1,512 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 420699 , Reply# 19   2/26/2020 at 21:15 (1,512 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 420710 , Reply# 20   2/26/2020 at 22:20 (1,512 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 420714 , Reply# 21   2/26/2020 at 23:12 (1,512 days old) by Hmc1981 (St. Augustine, Florida)   |   | |
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I wasn’t complaining. I was stating simple facts. And I never told him to leave the site. I suggested that he list it elsewhere and save himself the time from having to read through all of this bickering and nonsense. It’s the truth. Replies since my first on this thread only help prove what I mentioned.
Stop being overly sensitive. And report me if you have to. |
Post# 420718 , Reply# 22   2/27/2020 at 07:22 (1,512 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 420754 , Reply# 23   2/27/2020 at 21:33 (1,511 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)   |   | |
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Post# 420761 , Reply# 24   2/27/2020 at 22:31 (1,511 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 420765 , Reply# 25   2/27/2020 at 22:53 (1,511 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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My philosophy is to just be nice. It takes a lot more energy to keep up an online argument than to just say "I disagree, but you are entitled to your own opinion. Good day." Of course, there will be the occasional situation in which anger or aggression is a reasonable response, but in most situations, (like the one that has played out above) anger and aggression is an unreasonable reaction and it ruins the fun for everyone else on the forum. We're people however, and we sometimes let our emotions get the best of us. When this occurs, the best thing to do is apologize to the other party. Forgiving feels a lot better than grudges and hard feelings.
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Post# 420770 , Reply# 26   2/28/2020 at 08:21 (1,511 days old) by Hmc1981 (St. Augustine, Florida)   |   | |
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I was never arguing. Nor did I engage in any name calling. I also never directed my original post towards anybody, it was merely a reply to the OP. It’s others on here who took it and twisted it into something it never was, and that’s the point.
I’m told that my post was the most rude of all. Let’s examine! I’ve broken it up and have my “notes” in parentheses. It could polish up nice that I believe. (Because it could, this isn’t rude). This model had its floor height adjustment off of the front axle, so some fairly important equipment is missing. (This is all true, it isn’t rude, it’s just the truth). And I’m generally optimistic about finding parts, but on a machine of this vintage I wouldn’t count on finding what’s needed anytime soon. And if you do find it, chances are it’ll be part of another whole machine. (Again, all true. I have a friend who has one of these machines, it’s missing the motor. If he bought this one, it’d be complete. But if he doesn’t, and is hoping to find just the axle, he will likely be waiting for a long time. Nothing rude about this). If money is what you are after, eBay is your greatest chance. (Likely the case, maybe not. Who can say, but it isn’t rude). If the machine was in good working order, you certainly could get far more than $175. (I should have been more specific. On an auction site he likely could get more than $175. But still not a rude statement). This site really isn’t the best place to try to sell, just saying. (True if making some better money is what you are after. How is this rude? I sold my ComVac on eBay for over $600. Offers here on VL were in the $60-80 range. Fairly easy to see the better option as a seller). You could of course modify the machine to have an axle and wheels in the front, but at the same time, if you are trying to sell it, leave it as is and let the buyer do as he or she wishes. (True. Also, indirectly supportive of Huskyvacs idea. Because his idea could work. And, like my friend who has the one sans motor, it’s a good idea to sell it as it is. There may be a buyer who has one that’s incomplete, and this one could bring everything to life. Nothing rude being said). It has potential. (Because it does and that’s not rude to say). But... that front axle is quite important to the functionality of the machine. Anything other than what was designed to fit there is incorrect, and to collectors, will likely be a concern, but not to all. (True, some will care about this and some won’t. Nothing rude about that). At the end of the day, you have people who demand more and people who will settle for less. Both willing to spend their money. (A fact of life. Not good bad right or wrong. It’s just the truth, how is this rude)? There’s no point in anyone arguing over price or condition or how someone would choose to make the machine work until the right parts come along (if they ever do). (True and how is it rude to imply that arguing over this machine is pointless? It’s exactly what subsequent replies stated). This site can be so frustrating at times. All the guy wanted to know was an idea of what it might be worth and it’s gone so off topic because people are rude to one another and get their feelings hurt. (It’s true. And it’s difficult to see how anyone would get their feelings hurt over this statement. It isn’t directed towards anyone). It’s so stupid. (Still is. Not directed at anyone either. Might be seen as a rude comment to make, I could have phrased myself better, but it’s certainly not an attack on anybody). To the OP: list it on eBay and stop wasting your time with this site. (He’d likely make more on eBay. And it does not tell him to leave vacuumland altogether, it just suggests to use another platform for a sale, because after reading this whole thread, it would become clear to most people that selling on here won’t yield the best results and will involve too much hassle and drama. This statement is negative, but it’s true. May be a little harsh. Hopefully this can clear some air. As far as being grown adults is concerned, a good first step is to seek clarification if there is any confusion with what somebody has to say. And truthfully, in typing this, I don’t really have any emotion one way or another, I’m just clarifying what I said and reiterating that I was never arguing, was not directing any statement towards anyone, and was simply replying to the OP and not anybody else. Take it as you wish, I’m quite indifferent towards what people think about me, especially people who I don’t know. |
Post# 420771 , Reply# 27   2/28/2020 at 08:59 (1,511 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Again, it most likely took more energy to type out that wall of text than to just say "I disagree, but you can have your opinion." The wisest and most intelligent man is one who can admit that they were wrong, ever when they were not the one at fault. This is the last time that I will post on this thread. I'm trying to spread some positivity here, and you're just shooting it down. However, you have your opinion, and that's okay. Just don't expect to get too far by constantly arguing.
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Post# 420776 , Reply# 29   2/28/2020 at 09:22 (1,511 days old) by Hmc1981 (St. Augustine, Florida)   |   | |
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Not really. It’s copy and paste.
If you cannot address those who you accuse, even if they take the time to respond to the accusations, it only shows your own insecurities and vulnerabilities. Glad to hear it’s your last response on this thread. You’ve proven every point I was making. This is turning out to be a pretty good day. |
Post# 420782 , Reply# 30   2/28/2020 at 10:19 (1,511 days old) by Hmc1981 (St. Augustine, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 454697 , Reply# 31   7/11/2022 at 10:02 (647 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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The first iteration of the Scott & Fetzer Sanitation System, from 1928 until 1930, was also sold by Health-Mor as the first version of the Health-Mor Sanitation System.
It was during 1930 that Health-Mor (then known as Sanitation Systems, Inc., the Chicago-area distributor of the Scott & Fetzer model) decided to part ways with Scott & Fetzer and join P. A. Geier (Royal) to make the second version of their Sanitation System, which would last through 1939. ~Ben |