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Thread Number: 39398
/ Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
So, what's up with Aerus/Electrolux? |
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Post# 418014 , Reply# 1 1/2/2020 at 14:28 (1,567 days old) by gottahaveahoove  (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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| Post# 418018 , Reply# 2 1/2/2020 at 15:59 (1,567 days old) by weltron (Michigan) | ||
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RE: TTI Man, that is a plot twist I hadn't thought of. THAT would be interesting...and rather sad too. | ||
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Post# 418019 , Reply# 3 1/2/2020 at 16:15 (1,567 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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| Post# 418020 , Reply# 4 1/2/2020 at 16:15 (1,567 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest) | ||
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Maybe Tacony will buy them, afterall they are already building their light weight machine for them. | ||
| Post# 418022 , Reply# 5 1/2/2020 at 16:21 (1,567 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
Tacony? | ||
| Post# 418023 , Reply# 6 1/2/2020 at 16:30 (1,567 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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| Post# 418038 , Reply# 8 1/2/2020 at 20:55 (1,567 days old) by beagledad (Florida) | ||
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I wouldn't want to live in a home with only a robot vacuum. I can't imagine how filthy their carpets must be. Not to mention everything above floor that they can't even touch. People are so lazy now. | ||
| Post# 418040 , Reply# 9 1/2/2020 at 22:36 (1,567 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana) | ||
Robot vacuums are only a surface cleaner and they have such a random obtuse pattern they don't do anything to the carpet. They have no suction at all because it never touches the carpet - basically on the level of a dustbuster, and they flick most of the large debris into a dust cup and that's it. They also take about 4 hours to clean a floor that can be cleaned with a upright in 10 minutes. It's just a big expensive toy. I have no idea why people buy them - likely have no clue on how to clean a carpet.
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| Post# 418052 , Reply# 11 1/3/2020 at 09:51 (1,567 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
I haven't heard anything about Aerus struggling. I did just place an order for more of the Classic model (we are an Aerus dealer). The commercial upright is a good seller for me in this college town. I regularly trade in tacony vacuums on Aerus canisters, as most owners of tacony full size canisters are unhappy with them. The repair parts for tacony canisters are unavailable to my customers, so it's an easy sale of a new Aerus Electrolux (like your grandmother had). The trade-in room is piling up - maybe the guys can help me carry all of them to the dumpster at Convention time. Don't think Aerus is going anywhere soon.
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| Post# 418056 , Reply# 12 1/3/2020 at 12:49 (1,566 days old) by RainbowD4C (Saint Joseph, Michigan ) | ||
I think Aerus is safe. Rainbow just released a new lodel so I think they are safe. I think Aerus is safe just because they are classic. All of the units are pretty easy to use and have a great power behind them. Rainbow is completely redesigned with new features. And I think Kirby while dated is safe. I will say that Kirby needs to completely think about redesigning somehow. I will never own one again just because of the headache you get from trying to put on the hose to use the attachments.
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| Post# 418068 , Reply# 14 1/3/2020 at 16:07 (1,566 days old) by KirbyG6 (York) | ||
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| Post# 418070 , Reply# 15 1/3/2020 at 16:13 (1,566 days old) by weltron (Michigan) | ||
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@KirbyG6 I think Kirby's biggest problem right now is ease of use with people who frequently use attachments. Even though it is an excellent deep cleaner, they are going to have to either deviate from the (now) 30 year old G series platform, or make an extensive modification to it. | ||
| Post# 418071 , Reply# 16 1/3/2020 at 16:22 (1,566 days old) by KirbyG6 (York) | ||
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| Post# 418088 , Reply# 17 1/3/2020 at 20:36 (1,566 days old) by beagledad (Florida) | ||
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Aerus needs to put HEPA filtration and bags on both the Classic and Legacy. Any vacuum in that price range should have that. | ||
| Post# 418090 , Reply# 18 1/3/2020 at 21:13 (1,566 days old) by RainbowD4C (Saint Joseph, Michigan ) | ||
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| Post# 418092 , Reply# 19 1/3/2020 at 22:41 (1,566 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell ) | ||
Let's put the brakes on this right now.
@weltron You're taking what I said in the video way out of context. I set the ownership of the "Electrolux vacuum name" was uncertain I also stated that Aerus has closed up a few dealers. There was nothing said about them going out of business. @dysonman1 Thank you for setting the record straight. | ||
| Post# 418126 , Reply# 22 1/4/2020 at 15:18 (1,565 days old) by KirbyG6 (York) | ||
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| Post# 418171 , Reply# 23 1/5/2020 at 12:35 (1,564 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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Right, they just recently left the US vacuum cleaner market not long ago. For now at least. But who knows, maybe they might want to jump back into the market one of these days. If it's Electrolux AB that's struggling and not Aerus, then what they both could do is have Aerus license the Electrolux brand on their vacuums again and/or maybe Frigidaire just like when Tacony was able to license the Maytag brand on their uprights. That could really help out with both Aerus and Electrolux AB.
But what I basically know about Kirby, they have been and are currently still designing something new. The only way Kirby could get a new model is if the new model can actually clean, outlast, or hold up better than it's predecessor. I think almost 10 years ago I heard Kirby was working on something that I guess was almost a completely new design with an on-board hose and electronic controls on the machine. I haven't heard anymore news of it since then, I don't know if they're either still working on it or if it never did better than it's predecessor and maybe Kirby have already decided to move on with something else on the drawing board. I think Kirby wouldn't want to do a mistake like what happened with Speed Queen a few years ago on one of their washers. Otherwise. I still think they're good vacuums for what they are, the current model can still pretty much out clean alot of vacuums out there today. I know they're not for everyone but I will always love Kirby. | ||
| Post# 418173 , Reply# 24 1/5/2020 at 12:45 (1,564 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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| Post# 418176 , Reply# 25 1/5/2020 at 15:24 (1,564 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
I sincerely hope not...
panasonicvac wrote:
"I think almost 10 years ago I heard Kirby was working on something that I guess was almost a completely new design with an on-board hose and electronic controls on the machine." I reply: The very last thing I would want to see is a Kirby that's a load of self-destructing circuit boards. While it might weigh less and out-perform the current design in the short run, there's no way in hell it would outlast today's solidly built, circuit board-free machines. Such a move would truly be Kirby's death knell. If such a concept has gone nowhere in a decade, the powers that be at Kirby certainly must realize it as well. If you want circuit boards and a built-in hose, Walmart has them fresh from China in all their plastic glory for $99 a pop. Knock yourself out. | ||
| Post# 418205 , Reply# 27 1/6/2020 at 09:55 (1,564 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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I order HEPA disposable bags from Nationwide Sales and Service out of Farmingdale, NY. When I sell a Classic (or Legacy) I put the HEPA disposable bag in it and with it. I can order the bags in packs of 9 for sale to customers and in boxes of 100 (for retrofitting the new machines). None of the Aerus Electrolux canisters I sell leave this place with a paper bag in it.
This is how I rationalize it: The Classic is a great vacuum with great attachments and cleans well. The power nozzle covers a lot of carpet at once. The machine is easy to service and the parts are quality made. I can sell this machine for the price of a nice Miele or Sebo. No one has heard of Miele or Sebo, so the first thing I would have to do is tell people about this 'new' and unknown German brand with VERY expensive repair parts and bags. It's SO EASY to say "you should have an Electrolux. It was good enough for your mother and grandmother - they had it for years and wouldn't part with it. Don't you deserve an Electrolux too?" I recently went to the home of a customer and took two canisters - one of which was an Electrolux. I felt just like an old-time Lux salesman. We vacuumed for a few minutes with the new Classic, I cut open the HEPA bag and she bought it right then and there. I never even had to show the Titan, which was the other vacuum I took with me. | ||
| Post# 418213 , Reply# 28 1/6/2020 at 11:26 (1,563 days old) by RainbowD4C (Saint Joseph, Michigan ) | ||
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| Post# 418221 , Reply# 29 1/6/2020 at 17:33 (1,563 days old) by Vacman1970 (Tennessee ) | ||
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So Is Aerus Selling to independent multi line dealers now ? Is they a minimum by in , Is there still a franchise fee . Assuming there isn’t a existing franchise in the dma | ||
| Post# 418245 , Reply# 30 1/7/2020 at 00:49 (1,563 days old) by completenutt (West Hollywood, California) | ||
Can't find the video link. | ||
| Post# 418261 , Reply# 31 1/7/2020 at 12:16 (1,562 days old) by S2_82 (Ohio) | ||
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So if all our our local dealers are closing up and aerus obviously isn't sold online, how are we supposed to buy their products? | ||
| Post# 418294 , Reply# 32 1/8/2020 at 01:42 (1,562 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell ) | ||
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@completenutt Some people are taking one of my videos completely out of context.
Only thing you need to see in this thread is what @dysonman1 Said on the subject. Enjoy the rest of the threads on vacuum land. CLICK HERE TO GO TO vacuumdevil's LINK | ||
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Post# 418523 , Reply# 34 1/12/2020 at 00:21 (1,558 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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BOTH of my aerus Guardian Platinum vacuums have needed board changes-one of them TWICE-This in NOT acceptable for a premium vacuum.I like how these perform but the board issue needs to be CORRECTED!!! | ||
| Post# 418631 , Reply# 35 1/13/2020 at 21:31 (1,556 days old) by s2_82 (Ohio) | ||
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Those are good, valid points Dave, I hope that changes will be made to give customers more options in light of today's business model. | ||
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Post# 418692 , Reply# 36 1/15/2020 at 15:32 (1,554 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa) |
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Tulsa has always had Electrolux it was listed as one of the branch offices. Prices are pretty much outrageous. Last time I went it was $60.00 for a full bottle of shampoo. Bags are also expensive. My location changed hands about two years ago and ever since then prices are extremely high. I buy everything online now. Which is a real shame! They used to call and say "I'm calling about your Electrolux, do you need service?" I thought that was a nice touch. Since management has changed I no longer get those calls.
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Post# 418702 , Reply# 38 1/15/2020 at 21:37 (1,554 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa) |
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For example
One gallon of Turbo Carpet Shampoo is listed for $46.19 on the Aerus online store. The last time I bought the same carpet shampoo at my Aerus dealer it was $60.00 it might even be $70.00 now. They won't carry the 12 packages of bags they only carry the 24 packs which are higher in price $46.19 online probably much more at my local dealer. Luckily, I found the same carpet shampoo at an estate sale for $3.00 almost full.
Are these prices normal? It's a shame because the dealer is only 2 miles from my house. I hate to say this because I love my vacs but I can see why people are buying the $100 Sharks at Walmart and generic bags online. I'm not just picking on Areus every brand seems to be high now days. Hopefully the collectors on here have had better experiences than I have had with my local Areus dealer. It may just be my dealer. | ||
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Post# 418713 , Reply# 39 1/16/2020 at 15:01 (1,553 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa) |
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A little more digging.. | ||
| Post# 420026 , Reply# 41 2/15/2020 at 10:22 (1,524 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA) | ||
I don't see Aerus going out of business entirely, but I also don't see them expanding much or being bought by anyone else. Someone mentioned the idea of TTI buying them, that'll never happen. There's a very very small handful of consumers who recognize the Aerus name, instead they recognize the Electrolux name which Aerus can't use anymore. Some dealers stay alive by talking about the Electrolux name, but that's not a long term solution for the company as a whole. That's a bandaid for dealers who sell products for a company that has made a few bad business decisions.
I love their machines. They're some of my favorite cleaners, they're simple to maintain and use, they're durable, and they clean well enough for most consumers. | ||
| Post# 420027 , Reply# 42 2/15/2020 at 10:24 (1,524 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA) | ||
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Post# 420053 , Reply# 44 2/16/2020 at 00:22 (1,523 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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Get this learned from the Areus place in Greenville-they plan to start selling bedding and matteresses! | ||
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