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One of the Rarest Vacuums in Existence
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Post# 417649   12/27/2019 at 19:55 (1,752 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        

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Does anyone have any info on this? I once saw the motor unit for one on eBay, but passed it up. It is from about 1910 but that is basically all I know. I also saw one in the corner of a vacuum collection post card but I can't find it. Does someone have one? If so, does it work well? Btw, the third pic cut short, it is a Western Electric Sturtevant.
~K


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Post# 417651 , Reply# 1   12/27/2019 at 20:59 (1,751 days old) by Lindseysires123 (Siberia)        
Rare vacuum

I actually just came across one of these at a flea market in southern iowa. Are you interested? I am willing to take offers.

Post# 417653 , Reply# 2   12/27/2019 at 21:27 (1,751 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        
OMG YES

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Does it work? email me at
kierangegler@gmail.com


Post# 417654 , Reply# 3   12/27/2019 at 21:57 (1,751 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Collector

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If you read the posts about a month ago. The user asking us to guess what was in said package. He knows about this vacuum. I assume.
Les


Post# 417655 , Reply# 4   12/27/2019 at 22:51 (1,751 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        

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Actually, I don't. I have been curious about this one for a while.
~K


Post# 417666 , Reply# 5   12/28/2019 at 08:22 (1,751 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
Western Electric

Very rare!I have only seen ads or pictures.Was the post card from a mid west museum?An accessory for this to clean under furniture was a wand about 3 ft long that inserted where straight suction nozzle is and then nozzle went on end of that.

Post# 417672 , Reply# 6   12/28/2019 at 09:24 (1,751 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        
Cool!

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It may have been a museum, but the photo was taken in the 80s so it could have been a collector. I just remember that it had a red bag. Very clever attachment, I am surprised it wasn't used on more things. If I can find the pic I will post it. BTW the full pics of these are available at sturtevantfan.com
~K


Post# 417676 , Reply# 7   12/28/2019 at 11:15 (1,751 days old) by Phaeton (Los Angeles )        
Wester Electric and Sturtevant

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Yes I did buy the motor assembly that was on eBay just because I found to be odd. The little thing actually runs good. I believe there was a collector that lent one to the vacuum museum some time back. My understanding is that the fan cage used a Sturtevant design and the motor was Western Electric. In the day of a Royal straight suction or Eureka vacuum or even the more expensive Hoover, one wonders why buy the Western Electric vacuum.

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Post# 417686 , Reply# 8   12/28/2019 at 13:29 (1,751 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        
Found it

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Its in a museum. Or at least was.

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Post# 417697 , Reply# 9   12/28/2019 at 15:39 (1,751 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
That looks like Stark's in Portland, Oregon.

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I've been to Starks several times. And while I didn't attend, the V.C.C.C. had a convention there some years back.

I really like the non-electric pumpers like this one.


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Post# 417701 , Reply# 10   12/28/2019 at 19:14 (1,751 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        
Cool

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Those old bellows machines are pretty nice. I have the shell to one of the bug sprayer style Superiors.

Post# 417705 , Reply# 11   12/28/2019 at 20:23 (1,751 days old) by Oreck_XL (Brooklyn, New York 11211)        

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I would love to find a Frantz Premier, but they like the Western Electric Sturtevant are extremely rare nowadays. They were very much a luxury item in their day and I'm sure the few people did buy were melted down in the metal scrap drives of World War II.

Post# 417708 , Reply# 12   12/28/2019 at 22:08 (1,750 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Vacuette

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The frantz premier made the Kirby vacuette. I doubt very few made it to the scrap pile.
Les


Post# 417712 , Reply# 13   12/29/2019 at 00:55 (1,750 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)        

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I love all those old ads targeted at men - buy something for your poor, tired wife.

Which, I guess it's legit. Cleaning a house without a vacuum cleaner must've been an uphill struggle.


Post# 417754 , Reply# 14   12/29/2019 at 21:20 (1,749 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Seriously

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The heavy stereotype of woman is easily seen.
I believe this is 100 year anniversary of females being able to vote.
It's odd how advertising tells what society accepts as normal.
I guess now you say Alexa vacuum house. We have no manners to say please and thank you. I guess in another 100 years AI can vote and stereotype will be more advanced.
Les


Post# 417767 , Reply# 15   12/30/2019 at 00:40 (1,749 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Now today,if you gave a woman a vacuum cleaner-wonder if she would turn around and sock you?

Post# 418045 , Reply# 16   1/2/2020 at 23:24 (1,745 days old) by BriGuy (Wichita, Kansas)        
Speaking of a rare model...

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Here’s my Frantz Premier. I see it was mentioned above. I was fortunate to find this at an auction a few years ago. Looked like it had been sitting in a barn for decades.

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Post# 472452 , Reply# 17   7/20/2024 at 12:33 by SynViks (PDX)        
RE: One of the Rarest Vacuums in Existence

Hey everyone,

I'm more of an electric fan collector but I happened upon one of these vacuums at a reclamation center. This thread was probably the only explicit mention/description of the thing I could find on the internet outside of old Western Electric ads. Mine is missing the bag and the suction nozzle that fits to the front, but I'm going back to the reclamation center today to see these parts are there.

Given that vintage vacuums are not my area of expertise, if the title to this thread is correct and this is an exceedingly rare vacuum, how would one even go about determining a value if there's no sales history to go off of?


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Post# 472454 , Reply# 18   7/20/2024 at 13:10 by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        

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Wow!

I know what *I* would pay for that. I am not sure how many other collectors would be interested in something this old missing pieces, the popular era to collect now seems to be the 60s and 70s.

If you ever want to sell I would be extremely interested.

Does it run? Looks in decent shape, just needs the fan shroud put back on.



Post# 472457 , Reply# 19   7/20/2024 at 16:29 by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Value

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Just because it's rare doesn't make it valuable. I'd pay $20 if you lived close but atleast someone may want it.

Post# 472460 , Reply# 20   7/20/2024 at 19:32 by SynViks (PDX)        

Hoover300 I've gone ahead and sent you an email

Post# 472461 , Reply# 21   7/20/2024 at 19:55 by Human (Pines of Carolina)        
Western Electric?

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Is this the same Western Electric that made telephones for the Bell System back in the day?

Post# 472464 , Reply# 22   7/20/2024 at 23:34 by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        

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It sure is :)
I have a bigger #2 model, but it has bad commutator issues and arcs terribly when running.


Post# 472646 , Reply# 23   8/7/2024 at 02:17 by Hoover300 (Kentucky)        

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Thank you SynViks. I think this made my year.

Still a couple small things I need to fix, one of which I need to likely 3d print a head for it. Stuck a Eureka Junior head on for now.

Interestingly this uses the same GE type SDA motor as a Torrington B. Literally the exact same, even the steel plated casing(i.e. why its not as shiny as the rest).


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