Thread Number: 39219
/ Tag: 50s/60s/70s Vacuum Cleaners
Lots of vintage Kirby parts |
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Post# 416100 , Reply# 1   11/17/2019 at 20:53 (1,592 days old) by Kirbytex85 (Houston, TX)   |   | |
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Post# 416106 , Reply# 2   11/17/2019 at 21:37 (1,592 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 416109 , Reply# 4   11/17/2019 at 21:49 (1,592 days old) by Kirbytex85 (Houston, TX)   |   | |
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Post# 416113 , Reply# 6   11/17/2019 at 23:14 (1,592 days old) by jrdavis (oklahoma)   |   | |
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Post# 416116 , Reply# 7   11/18/2019 at 06:49 (1,591 days old) by 2011hoover700 (owosso michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 416140 , Reply# 9   11/18/2019 at 20:52 (1,591 days old) by kirbyklekter (Concord,Ca.)   |   | |
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what is unique about the Classic motor? I've got three and was just curious, thanks. |
Post# 416146 , Reply# 11   11/18/2019 at 22:11 (1,591 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Rob,
You are correct that the D50, D80 and Classic all have more or less the same motor architecture (including the front bearing plate assembly), the only difference being the field and armature designs. The speed switch and the power switch are both the same on all three, except in the case of the Classic the power switch is oriented differently so that the switch button is on the rear side of the motor instead of on the side like the D50/80. That is also why the female plug receptacle is in a different position than on models Classic Omega to Legend II (the Classic Omega being the first machine to use a double-insulated motor assembly). ~Ben |
Post# 416149 , Reply# 12   11/18/2019 at 22:25 (1,591 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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The d80 later motors are very similar to cr1. I think field is close if not exact same. It is a d80 motor and coil slightly larger carbon brushes.
Layout of power switch is to stream line vacuum. It's motor housing is different than any others one of if not the hardest to get access too. It was the last kirby Jim Kirby made. Les |
Post# 416193 , Reply# 14   11/19/2019 at 20:50 (1,590 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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The motor is too big for a d50 housing. I wanted to use a cr1 or a tradition motor and it fits with the 4amp coil but not D's 50-80. It overworks the 4 amp coil. I thought it would be cool but my k meter was pulling more amps and I turned it off and half the carbon brush wore in less than a minute.
If I'm to create my blue trimmed vacuum it has to be dual sanitronic motor and coil. Les |
Post# 416197 , Reply# 15   11/19/2019 at 21:23 (1,590 days old) by texaskirbyguy (Plano, TX)   |   | |
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Les, so the complete field and armature assy from the 1CR will not fit in the D50 housing? If not that may be another difference in the 1CR vs D50/80 castings... |
Post# 416200 , Reply# 16   11/19/2019 at 22:41 (1,590 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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That is correct cr1 armature and coil doesn't fit. The coil fits sort of and armature it's too big in circumference to fit inside the coil. It's close but to much gurth doesn't fit.
I know half way through the d80 models Kirby switched manufactures for there motors. I bought 2 brand new motors and coils and numbers were different. Kent oyler told me something about it bill a007kirbyman explained it to me. This may have something to do with it. The xr1 is hard as heck to access hole in motor housing to put in a pick to hold armature in place while you spin off the fan. When the fan is off there is bearing plate. I think is built into motor housing. The lower part of housing slides off unlike any other Kirby. I have a 6 amp royal coil and I may try to get it to work with classic or tradition motor. I lf I'm correct cb1 cb2, cb3 all use same motor hence the reason I say tradition motor. Les |
Post# 416231 , Reply# 17   11/20/2019 at 14:13 (1,589 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 416232 , Reply# 18   11/20/2019 at 14:30 (1,589 days old) by 2011hoover700 (owosso michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 416239 , Reply# 20   11/20/2019 at 18:16 (1,589 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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The motor or armature has little to do with the speed. It's the Field coil sets the speed. Kirby since D's 50 are all 2 speed with a 2 speed coil. If you know what you are doing you could put a royal single speed coil. I believe amebush lamb makes motors and coils for both companies.
If you stick with Kirby parts you can wire a vacuum to be low speed. You simply cap 2speed wires and don't run wires to safety switch. Les |
Post# 416250 , Reply# 22   11/20/2019 at 20:59 (1,589 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 416363 , Reply# 24   11/22/2019 at 19:51 (1,587 days old) by jrdavis (oklahoma)   |   | |
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Post# 416508 , Reply# 27   11/25/2019 at 23:47 (1,584 days old) by rivstg1 (colorado springs)   |   | |
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Post# 416524 , Reply# 28   11/26/2019 at 10:03 (1,583 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 416607 , Reply# 30   11/26/2019 at 23:14 (1,583 days old) by rivstg1 (colorado springs)   |   | |
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Post# 416787 , Reply# 32   12/1/2019 at 13:17 (1,578 days old) by JGarvey (Wrightstown, NJ)   |   | |
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Hey Rob. I sent you an email too. Thanks! Joe |
Post# 416807 , Reply# 33   12/1/2019 at 21:38 (1,578 days old) by texaskirbyguy (Plano, TX)   |   | |
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JGarvey, I had not received one yet - please check and/or resend. Thanks! |
Post# 417839 , Reply# 37   12/31/2019 at 06:49 (1,548 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 417884 , Reply# 39   12/31/2019 at 15:33 (1,548 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 417886 , Reply# 40   12/31/2019 at 16:16 (1,548 days old) by texaskirbyguy (Plano, TX)   |   | |
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Crazy, Please see the pictures in reply 36. Scroll through them and find pics 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, & 11 with the light brown trim and smooth headlight trim. Let me know if you seek something particular or a particular condition. Thanks! |
Post# 417887 , Reply# 41   12/31/2019 at 16:43 (1,548 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 417911 , Reply# 44   12/31/2019 at 21:54 (1,548 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 417936 , Reply# 45   1/1/2020 at 10:37 (1,547 days old) by texaskirbyguy (Plano, TX)   |   | |
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Les, what box/picture? |
Post# 417937 , Reply# 46   1/1/2020 at 10:43 (1,547 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 417971 , Reply# 48   1/1/2020 at 21:06 (1,547 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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I think I'll take them. I'll try to get financial situation by Friday.
I have a green LED light that would just make that vacuum look nice as a 500 series in green. I take it that the motors are 4 amps. Do they come with sweet aire caps? I don't have many caps. I'll email you tommorow on paying for it. I'd take the car as but I don't need it. I have more toggle switches than I have 500 series vacuums. Les |
Post# 417984 , Reply# 50   1/1/2020 at 22:23 (1,547 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 417998 , Reply# 51   1/2/2020 at 10:02 (1,546 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 418017 , Reply# 52   1/2/2020 at 15:40 (1,546 days old) by kmarcus (Calgary, Alberta, Canada)   |   | |
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Hello, Do you happen to have any original bags for a kirby omega, either pinstripe or gold but that has the omega label on it? my email is kieranmarcus91@gmail.com |
Post# 418021 , Reply# 53   1/2/2020 at 16:20 (1,546 days old) by texaskirbyguy (Plano, TX)   |   | |
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kmarcus, sorry, no Omega bags like that except on my now-restored Omega that I have owned for 26+ years. A sweet-looking chromed beauty! Let me know if you need any other Omegas stuff, as I have several parts units and some restorable vacs |
Post# 418025 , Reply# 55   1/2/2020 at 16:38 (1,546 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)   |   | |
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Post# 418027 , Reply# 57   1/2/2020 at 17:03 (1,546 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)   |   | |
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Post# 419269 , Reply# 61   1/29/2020 at 01:07 (1,520 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 420983 , Reply# 66   3/3/2020 at 11:47 (1,485 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 421144 , Reply# 69   3/5/2020 at 16:11 (1,483 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 421170 , Reply# 70   3/6/2020 at 08:40 (1,482 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 421328 , Reply# 71   3/9/2020 at 14:44 (1,479 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 421350 , Reply# 72   3/9/2020 at 20:28 (1,479 days old) by texaskirbyguy (Plano, TX)   |   | |
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Hi Ben, Got your email, I do have a motor for you, but I do not have pay pal. I sent you a message with alternate payment options. Thanks! |
Post# 421353 , Reply# 73   3/9/2020 at 20:37 (1,479 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 421425 , Reply# 74   3/10/2020 at 23:33 (1,478 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 422897 , Reply# 76   4/6/2020 at 19:43 (1,451 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 422975 , Reply# 77   4/7/2020 at 22:46 (1,450 days old) by texaskirbyguy (Plano, TX)   |   | |
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Les, what does your last comment mean? I am using outlook and spam folder is empty. Sure you do not need some more polishing material? :o) |
Post# 422976 , Reply# 78   4/7/2020 at 22:50 (1,450 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 422977 , Reply# 79   4/7/2020 at 22:52 (1,450 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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