Thread Number: 38834  /  Tag: 50s/60s/70s Vacuum Cleaners
Convertible Headlight Wiring
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Post# 412562   8/9/2019 at 20:07 (196 days old) by hooverU4089 (CT)        

Hi all,

If I were to swap the original motor on a 60s model Convertible that has a headlight with a donor motor that is not wired for the light, what is the process of wiring the headlight?

Post# 412624 , Reply# 1   8/12/2019 at 03:16 (193 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)        

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Are we sure the headlight is even wired into the motor? Is the light bulb used 12v or 120v?

Post# 412629 , Reply# 2   8/12/2019 at 08:33 (193 days old) by hooverU4089 (CT)        

The convertibles of this vintage that featured a headlight had a 25-watt push-and-twist bulb. Not sure of voltage. The motors were definitely all the same on the old models (65, 33, 584, 1020, 719, 593, etc.), just not all had headlights.

Post# 412644 , Reply# 3   8/12/2019 at 21:49 (193 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)        

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I find it hard to believe it would have that stupid headlight winding in the motor like a Kirby. Especially, like you say, since there were a lot of those models and headlights were optional.

In a worst case scenario, if Hoover was THAT idiotic, you could simply wire the headlight to the 120v power supply for the motor and convert it to a 120v light bulb (they usually use the same socket).

But again, I HIGHLY doubt the motor wiring on a Convertible has anything to do with the light. Kinda surprised no one else has chimed in. At any rate, there's only one way to know for sure: take it apart and look.

Post# 412653 , Reply# 4   8/12/2019 at 23:45 (193 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        

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I don't know if all the posts are in order. Pretty much every vacuum from 1930-1990 and currently sanitairre all use the same bulb. It's basically the same for every vacuum. It's also airstream tail light.

Post# 412871 , Reply# 5   8/17/2019 at 20:34 (188 days old) by hooverU4089 (CT)        

It looks like the wiring is somehow attached to one of the carbon brush housings, but I figured a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Post# 412882 , Reply# 6   8/18/2019 at 09:28 (187 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        

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If it's attached to the carbon brush housing it's a ground. There will be two wires from the coil and two wires from the headlight and two wires from the power cord. Each set of wires has black which is power and white which is neutral. The whites all connect and blacks all connect.
If it two speed, headlight 2 wires, coil 4 wires, power cord two wires, carbon brush 2 wires.
Carbon brush one is ground other is power, headlight neutral and power. The coil 1 power 2 neutral and one ground, switch power and neutral.
Green is usual ground, black, red and blue are usually power wires, white and yellow are usually neutral, the neutral may also be any color with a white stripe. The white stripe means neutral.

Post# 412911 , Reply# 7   8/19/2019 at 01:23 (187 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)        

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I thought these vacs were not grounded (2 pin plug)?

Post# 412926 , Reply# 8   8/19/2019 at 18:37 (186 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        

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Sanitronic 50 and 80 2 prong grounded on the body.

Post# 412937 , Reply# 9   8/20/2019 at 00:36 (186 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)        

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Thought we were talking about a Hoover.

Post# 412968 , Reply# 10   8/21/2019 at 01:21 (185 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        

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They use ametech lamb motor and coils. I'd imagine the wiring on my 913 Hoover has same wires and everything I mentioned.
I could be wrong but convertible is same motor setup as my Hoover. That's why I'm getting info from.

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