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Rexair Rainbow trademarks SRX name - could new machine be coming very soon?
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Post# 411905   7/22/2019 at 19:05 by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)        

So the rumor is that there is a new Rainbow coming soon. It is public knowledge that Rainbow has trademarked the name SRX. Perhaps we can have some fun and guess what SRX stands for. SRX = sucks rexair? Perhaps we can speculate what might be coming. I certainly hope that they will have a better power nozzle. I haven't been impressed with the power nozzle designs. I can remember the last time I had a demonstration. The salesperson made many health claims, but I've never seen any proof that the Rainbow has any health benefits. Normally when someone makes a health claim, it is regulated by the FDA or some other organization that requires substantial proof in the form clinical trials. Has Rexair ever collected data on customers to show any long term health benefits? The salesperson claimed that Rainbows are the only vacuums that can be used in hospitals, but he didn't realize I work in a hospital, and there have never been Rainbows used in the large pediatric hospital where I worked. I think he actually believed it was the truth. They also claimed that the Rainbow is the only vacuum that can remove all the dirt from a rug. Of course that was another blatant lie. When the demo started, the salesperson said that the machine being demoed was new in the box. However, it was clear that the same machine had been used previously in countless demonstrations.

Do any Rainbow owners convert their machines to run on alternative power nozzles?


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Post# 411907 , Reply# 1   7/22/2019 at 19:34 by Juju93 (florida)        

Yes thereís a new model coming out soon. It has already been launch Bach in May at some event called the San Diego world trade event. In fact there was another thread on this model but it got deleted the other day (sadly). Iím just waiting for it to become available in the Florida region so I can get my hands on one (itíll be my first rainbow machine). I just wanna see more pics and more info on it as well as the optional accessories. Iím curious to see if any of them have changed. I wouldnít count the rainbowmate as a potential change since they just changed it not even 2 years ago. As for the other accessories I hope they got some sort of updating, even if itís just the packaging.

Post# 411925 , Reply# 2   7/23/2019 at 07:40 by tekjunkie28 (Roanoke Va)        

SRX is Super Rainbow Xtreme

Post# 411972 , Reply# 3   7/24/2019 at 09:12 by Dysonman1 (Missouri Ozarks)        

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I am not looking forward to fixing that new machine. Sure, itís nice to have a steel brush roller with replaceable bristles. The whole 4 Speed motor, And the mechanism that lifts the machine up and down off of the water basin is not something Iím looking forward to repairing.

Post# 411976 , Reply# 4   7/24/2019 at 11:16 by juju93 (florida)        

wait the new brushroll has replacable bristles? I'm curious to if this one has the 4qt water basin and also 14ft hose. I'm also curious to the acoustics of it. Like whats the sound of it on speed 4 compare to what the current e2 back sounds like. In other words is it quieter on speed 4 (which is the highest speed) than what the E2black sounds like on tradional high speed. Also can someone explain to me how the groomer tool works, as well as the timer mode thing and also the other pet tool that was release along the groomer tool. Also does anybody know if the sprayer/rexafoamer will work with this new model?

Post# 411995 , Reply# 5   7/24/2019 at 22:58 by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Seems we have a new anti-Rainbow thread already. Before anyone (other than Rexair people) has seen it they know all about it! Amazing!

Be that as it may, there are some flaws is your post...

1) There is nothing wrong with Rexair's power nozzles. The human eye cannot judge cleaning performance of dirt particles effectively. It takes science to do that. The current nozzles have been tested under the ONLY scientifically rigorous testing regimen available at the CRI's test facilities and found to be very effective. It was awarded a Silver (the second highest) grade for soil removal in 4 passes-one of the very best for a canister machine. It was quieter than Aerus' or Riccar's to boot.

2) There are no regulations (FDA or otherwise) for the making of health claims in the U.S.A. Companies do it all the time from toothpaste makers to humidifiers to cleaning agents.

3) Rexair is certainly not alone in making shaky claims about the cleaners performance or abilities. They all do that whether door-to-door, outlet, or mass market.

I hope we don't allow the Rainbow bashers to cloud our views.


Post# 411998 , Reply# 6   7/24/2019 at 23:19 by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)        

It's curious that you bring up the Carpet and Rug Institute (cRI). Yes, the Rainbow meets the Silver criteria. The Sirena meets the criteria to be gold rated. Most Riccars meet the Gold criteria. With the belt running down the middle of the power nozzle, there is huge dead space. Am I wrong to expect excellence from a vacuum that sells for nearly $3000?



Post# 412007 , Reply# 7   7/25/2019 at 09:45 by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        
Belt in the middle?

Ralph123, are you referring to the video that was found on Facebook? In my opinion, it's hard to guess what to expect when all we have to look at is an animated video rendering. This could just be what they used for the cut-away image of the power nozzle just for the video production. It could be very different when it's actually available for sale.

Also, I have to wonder exactly how far along they really are in the development process, especially considering that they only filed for the SRX name in February 2019.

I think Rainbow is accomplishing exactly what so man other companies tend to do: generating interest by getting the public whipped into a frenzy and releasing sneak peeks on the internet. I mean, did you see that crowd? They were jumping up an down and screaming like they had the Holy Ghost in them at some "mega-church"! LOL

I'm hoping for the best in their power nozzle design. Regardless, there's still plenty to look forward to with their other improvements. I just hope it's not an anti-climactic vacuum release, like the Avalir was.


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Post# 412008 , Reply# 8   7/25/2019 at 10:25 by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)        

Iím referring to the current model. I have no knowledge of the future model.

Post# 412012 , Reply# 9   7/25/2019 at 14:24 by Juju93 (florida)        

I canít wait to get my hands on one of these things. Iím curious to when itíll become available in the central Floria area. As for the belt being put on the center of the nozzle, they did that with the E2 Black model. When the E2 Black came out in 2011 they had the belt on the side of the nozzle and within the past few years they changed that to put it on the center of the nozzle. So Iím assuming they decided to keep it on the center of the nozzle. Iím also curious to see what the owners manual will look like, as well as the optional accessories.

Post# 412015 , Reply# 10   7/25/2019 at 16:34 by Dysonman1 (Missouri Ozarks)        

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Rexair makes only one model at a time. Every single one of the machines in their current main warehouse must be sold before a single new one will be released. Thatís just business. There might be thousands of the current one that have to be sold first. Or, for all we know, they might only have two or three left of the current style. I was at the rainbow world conference when they debuted the E-series. We had to sell all of the D4 performance edition models before the salesman could get their hands on the new model.

Post# 412017 , Reply# 11   7/25/2019 at 19:34 by Juju93 (florida)        

Well hopefully they donít have many E2 Black machines left in there warehouse and that theyíve already started production of the new model.

Post# 412019 , Reply# 12   7/25/2019 at 20:24 by Miskini (Northville, Michigan )        

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Why did the other thread get deleted.

Post# 412026 , Reply# 13   7/25/2019 at 23:43 by beagledad (Florida)        

The current power nozzle has the belt on the side where it should be. The first version of the power nozzle for the current rainbow had it in the center. Moving it to the side was a big improvement. I'm hoping the new power nozzle keeps the belt on the side. Otherwise I will pass. They should add height adjustment too. Or better yet, outsource it to Wessel Werk and equip the new Rainbow with the EBK360.

Post# 412247 , Reply# 14   7/31/2019 at 10:49 by juju93 (florida)        

any news on the new model?

Post# 412250 , Reply# 15   7/31/2019 at 15:44 by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)        

Itís too bad that they donít unload the old models at Costco. rexair would never agree to more reasonable prices or returns.

Post# 412324 , Reply# 16   8/3/2019 at 08:56 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
why

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was the other thread deleted? I never saw it.

Post# 412326 , Reply# 17   8/3/2019 at 09:53 by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
speculation

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I'm guessing the old thread was deleted due to a complaint from Rexair, since the information about the SRX is not yet public and it being posted on a public forum they probably threatened to sue the webmaster for it. Most likely because it may effect the sales of the Current E2 black, if people know a new model is just around the corner. But again just speculation.

Post# 412327 , Reply# 18   8/3/2019 at 10:28 by Juju93 (florida)        

Yeah but people are going to post it on really any type of online stuff, especially on Facebook. Speaking of Facebook does anyone know what Facebook group the new model is mentioned in, such as videos, photos, etc? Also does anyone know when this new model is suppose to be available for purchase? If you look on google images thereís a few (not many) of the new SRX model.

Post# 412328 , Reply# 19   8/3/2019 at 10:53 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
OH MY G

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I google image searched and I found the picture that must have been linked to the thread that was deleted. Anyway, from what I can see, it looks like the E3 Black only silver in color. That hose looks different. Can you imagine buying a new Black rainbow, then the next day they came out with a new model? I'd be MAD LOL

Post# 412333 , Reply# 20   8/3/2019 at 12:28 by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
group

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As far as I know there isn't a group for it and if there is it's probably closed to all but rainbow dealers. I found what I could find by searching Rainbow SRX on facebook. There (to my knowledge) isn't a public group for it. You may see posts from people if you're lucky.

Post# 412342 , Reply# 21   8/3/2019 at 15:30 by Juju93 (florida)        

I just want to know a few things about the new model and hopefully someone (rather it be here or not) can help answer some of my questions.
1. Will there be a 4qt water basin option for this model?
2. Will there also be a 14ft hose option available too?
4. How quiet is it on the highest 4 setting? Like is it louder than a Dyson cordless, or quieter?
5. How much will it cost to get one with all of the optional accessories (AquaMate, RainJet complete, rainbowmate, MiniJet and whatever else is new with it)...... in the central Florida region that is.
6. Speaking of the MIniJet did it get redesign since the hose connections on the new model got redesigned?

Also this is an off topic question but it can apply to any rainbow machine. Why is it that the sprayer isnít sold with the machine? And why is it not frequently mentioned as an optional attachment? Also is the rexafoamer basically a shampoo cap that you attach to the sprayer, if so why is it sold separately?


Post# 412343 , Reply# 22   8/3/2019 at 15:58 by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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I'm guessing the old thread was deleted due to a complaint from Rexair, since the information about the SRX is not yet public and it being posted on a public forum they probably threatened to sue the webmaster for it.

No that isn't the reason at all. A few members had posted things in it that they regretted posting and asked me to delete that thread. If I was contacted by Rexair and they asked me to delete it I certainly would have out of respect for the company's private information, however this wasn't the case. That actually happened once on automaticwasher by Speed Queen and once they contacted me I immediately deleted the thread as it had pictures of a charts that were confidential that someone had got from an employee at SQ. There wasn't a threat of a law suit by SQ, they simply asked out of respect of their privacy that I remove that information. I was happy to oblige.

I felt really torn as to what to do about that previous thread, and I felt bad about having to delete it for reasons that shouldn't have happened in the first place. So feel free to re-create it here, I've already asked those involved that if they aren't comfortable with the thread to not post in it.


Post# 412348 , Reply# 23   8/3/2019 at 17:47 by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
oh! oops!

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😓 I guess that's where speculation gets me. Thank you for clarifying that.

But knowing that I'll re-post the image of it. Now that I see it again i'm sort of reminded of ritello


Post# 412350 , Reply# 24   8/3/2019 at 18:55 by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Hi Devin, I still don't think it's wise to be re-posting pictures that you didn't take when it's clear that the picture was probably taken without permission by the manufacturer, so to prevent this thread from having to be deleted as well I made the decision to delete the picture. If you took the picture yourself that would be a completely different situation.

Hope you guys understand.


Post# 412351 , Reply# 25   8/3/2019 at 19:35 by Juju93 (florida)        

When they launched this new machine did they discuss just the machine and everything that it does, or did they also discuss the optional tools for it too?

Post# 412353 , Reply# 26   8/3/2019 at 21:01 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
I think they discussed everything

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It sounds like it's OKAY to post pics so I will post what I found. But if it's NOT ok. Feel free to delete this.


Post# 412358 , Reply# 27   8/3/2019 at 23:22 by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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I think if you took the picture yourself than it's fine to post or if it's from an official release I think that would be okay. That's at least just for now.

Post# 412445 , Reply# 28   8/6/2019 at 10:19 by rivstg1 (colorado springs)        
lets consider....

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car manufacturers don't desire that spy photographers take pictures of the new upcoming cars in developmental stage....yet people do it b/c the buying public WANT to know...a glimpse. Those big car companies don't/can't SUE someone..aka news shows or print magazines for posting photos they have of the 'mystery' car. So, why do we think a vacuum maker has different wants/legal standing? Anyone should be able to post info/photos of anything that's for sale or will be for sale or in development. perplexing......to realistically think otherwise....no?

Post# 412449 , Reply# 29   8/6/2019 at 11:32 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
Good Point

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LOL, maybe it's a different animal with something sold door to door? LOL Not that that makes a difference. Anyway, I was thinking about when I was reading about the many new features of the new rainbow and it kind of surprised me that one of the features was NOT a self-cleaning separator. Not that I mind cleaning it but it would be kind of cool not to have to do that. Of course, I'm just basing that off the pic I saw of the new features and there were a LOT of new features. Wouldn't that be like a huge selling point especially since Hyla has had one forever.....I've never seen a video of someone taking a Hyla apart to see if they really can get dirty inside so I don't know.

Post# 412451 , Reply# 30   8/6/2019 at 13:01 by juju93 (florida)        

i just wish there was more videos of it, like a launch video. I aslo wished they discuessed if they did any updating to any of the optional accessories, or if they're lauching any new accessories.

Post# 412455 , Reply# 31   8/6/2019 at 16:58 by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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When the new Rainbow is officially launched for sale I am sure there will be lots of promotional material outlining all the new features. Be Patient!

Gary


Post# 412464 , Reply# 32   8/6/2019 at 21:47 by rivstg1 (colorado springs)        
its coming.......

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its hard to have patience when you're so anxious for something!! haha. eh juju93?? heck, YOU'VE got ME excited for the official announcement/release now!! thanks a lot!

Post# 412465 , Reply# 33   8/6/2019 at 22:07 by juju93 (florida)        

look, the way i see it is like this. Yall know how ever September apple launches new products and then within a few WEEKS they're available in stores across the nation. I feel like rexair should've done that. When they launched the new SRX model they should've started shipment within that month and not decided to wait several months for shipment to start. I mean even kirby didn't do that when they launched the avalir 5 (can't believe its been that long) years ago. When they launch the avalir they started shipment within 2-3 months and so on. What I'm basically saying don't launch something if your going to wait to distribute it to the public several months later. I say several months later because according to others it won't be available till towards the end of the year. Do keep in mind that this got launch back in late may. Because of this you'll have potential customers holding out and not getting the current E2 Black for they may know about the new SRX and would prefer that. I know I would and I don't even own a rainbow, let alone used one. But when this new SRX comes out, I'll be getting one.

Post# 412512 , Reply# 34   8/8/2019 at 08:57 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
OK

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After digging I was able to find the facebook video. The crowd was going NUTS. It's so hard to tell but it looks redesigned COMPLETELY....I mean EVERYTHING! Again, hard to tell but I'm not sure I'm loving the graphics and the PN looks weird (again, hard to make a judgment yet) The water bath looked like it was going crazy with turbulence. The machine didn't look quite as large. The basin looked larger and almost a blue tint to it. The rainbow looks like it could lean back on the dolly without having to take the dolly off to remove the basin. The hose handle looked larger.

Post# 412519 , Reply# 35   8/8/2019 at 21:46 by cbimmer (USA)        

My parents still have the E Series they bought around 1999. I don't think it's been used since 2001 when they moved into their new house with a central vacuum. I remember what a chore it was to fill, empty, and clean the thing. I can't imagine using one with dogs that shed like mine do.

Post# 412630 , Reply# 36   8/12/2019 at 08:41 by juju93 (florida)        

so looking through the facebook search thing, it looks like the new SRX is available in the Asian markets. Why do we have to wait till the end of the year, if they already start selling it. I love the black and blue color combo with the new model.

Post# 412643 , Reply# 37   8/12/2019 at 20:53 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
Maybe

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they sold out of the black models in Asia faster than the USA?

Anyway, I was wondering......when does Rexair cease making parts for any of their past model Rainbows? I'm not 100% sure, but I think someone who owns an SE can still get "genuine" parts... I guess my question is at what point does Rexair completely stop making parts for a past model? Kind of off topic, sorry. Just a random though I had.


Post# 412658 , Reply# 38   8/13/2019 at 08:16 by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        

I would imagine that some of those replacement parts are outsourced to third party manufacturers after a certain point. There are plenty of Rainbow-identical replacement tools out there, with the only difference being that they don't have the letter "R" marked on them. The last few times I tried to find a brand new genuine Rainbow straight suction rug nozzle, I could only find one that was off brand, but it was well made and looked like the original. This was even from a Rainbow dealer in the Houston TX area. 

Also, don't apologize for going "kind of off topic".  It gave us a well needed distraction. I welcome such distractions because we're obviously going to be waiting a while for Rainbow's new model. wink


Post# 412662 , Reply# 39   8/13/2019 at 09:15 by Dysonman1 (Missouri Ozarks)        

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I hope you guys who are chomping at the bit over this have been saving your pennies. Actually, saving your dollars is more like it. 3300 of them. Could be more depending upon where you live. The independent distributors are allowed to set their own pricing. I plan on waiting two years. They will be at the pawnshop for 200 bucks. Just like those Avalir 2ís. I bought an avalir 1 from Facebook marketplace for $85. The people hated it.

Post# 412663 , Reply# 40   8/13/2019 at 09:26 by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        
Youíve got the right idea!

My e2 black that I bought in 2012 was a 1 year old bank repossession that I sniped on eBay for $600. Luckily, it had been well cared for and everything was with it including the RainJet and AquaMate. Some of those bank repos are not too pretty!

Post# 412666 , Reply# 41   8/13/2019 at 10:38 by juju93 (florida)        
kind of off topic

I can't wait to see what the website will look like with this new model as well as the "how to" videos. I'm curious to what optional attachments got changed/updated. I would assume the MiniJet would change due to the fact that the new SRX has a new hose connect function. As for the rainbowmate, I don't think that would get updated and I say this because it just got updated like not even 2 years ago.

Post# 412688 , Reply# 42   8/13/2019 at 17:28 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
I've already been through this with the black model

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Since I bought my gold 2 speed in 2006....I was drooling over the black model, but even though I've used my Gold 2 speed a lot over the years, it still shines like new and there is no way I'm getting rid of it for a new model.......still, the new ones I can dream about. Rainbows are definitely my most favorite vacuum of all time.

Post# 412998 , Reply# 43   8/21/2019 at 23:48 by man114 (Buffalo NY)        

Got my two speed black from goodwill for $20. Best deal I ever got. I did have to clean out the powerhead and replace the side spinner brushes.

Post# 413001 , Reply# 44   8/22/2019 at 07:22 by Chris (WV)        

In 2011 the price for my e2 black was 2595. After trade in of my e2 gold the final price was 1795 and I got the aquamate rainjet and rainbow mate free. I guess in a more populated area your going to pay more.

Post# 413002 , Reply# 45   8/22/2019 at 09:05 by juju93 (florida)        
average cost

What is the average cost of a rainbow unit, just the unit and attachments, with NO optional accessories?




So I was also just on google and I searched the SRX and on google image some new pictures came up. This model is available in the Asian markets (as previously mentioned) and now the images for this model are starting to pop up.


Post# 413003 , Reply# 46   8/22/2019 at 09:15 by dysonman1 (Missouri Ozarks)        

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I would not be at all surprised if they retail the new machine for $3300. That's a figure I heard from someone who will be selling them, as they sell the Black model now. Right now, in the market I'm in, the Black goes for $2895.



Post# 413005 , Reply# 47   8/22/2019 at 10:40 by Chris (WV)        

I'm glad to see they went back to the Oval dusting brush. The picture i seen had the serial number and it had a manufacture date of 3/19. Apparently they have been in production for some time. I also dont like all the stuff on the machine end of the hose

Post# 413010 , Reply# 48   8/22/2019 at 15:45 by Juju93 (florida)        

You would think the E2 Black model would be cheaper than 2900 since itís been out for 8 years. Any Florida distributors got an idea on how much the new SRX model will run for? Also how much would I have to put down on one if I want to finance one and have payments of about 50-75 dollars a month. And also if I want the following optional accessories:
Rainjet complete
Aquamate
Rainbowmate
Mini jet
Sprayer/rexafoamer
Optional 14ft hose and 4qt basin (if these exist for this models)

How much additional would all this cost to add on to my total bill for the new model and can I finance all of these things together, or do I have to pay for them upfront and only finance the vacuum itself?


Post# 413034 , Reply# 49   8/23/2019 at 13:29 by juju93 (florida)        

also if anyone gets this new SRX model, could yall post like an unboxing video as well as some pics of it online.


k, thanks


Post# 413035 , Reply# 50   8/23/2019 at 14:50 by dysonman1 (Missouri Ozarks)        

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Just so you know how they do it:
The AquaMate and RainbowMate are designed to be given away in exchange for leads. Most salespeople have no idea how to sell one or how much they sell for, as they normally give them away. Be prepared to pay $100 for a RainbowMate and about $200 for the AquaMate if you buy them.

Be prepared for at least a $100 price on the Rainjet attachment. Be prepared to spend at least $150 on the extra long hose. Most distributors sell the 4 quart pan for about $80.

Most US distributors do not carry the Rexafoamer as the sprayer is an optional attachment virtually no one buys. They would normally not carry it in stock.

Think about how much you want to put down. At least $500 would be normal for the 'Full Package" (yes, you can finance the optional parts). Your interest rate and length of financing time depend a lot upon your credit report. People with "not great" credit pay between 21 to 27 percent interest. The better your credit, the less the interest rate and the longer of a time you can finance the total for.

With tax and all the optional parts you want, expect to spend a little more than $4000 for the new SRX model (these prices are based upon a guess based upon the selling price of the black model as of August, 2019).

If you financed at $50 to $70 per month, expect the total of payments with interest and down payment to be $5000.

Personally, I'm going to wait a year and pick one up that was a repo or at the pawn shop for MUCH less than a grand. Wait 2 years, and you'll be able to get one from Facebook Marketplace for $500 or so. Of course, you'll have to buy your optional pieces brand new, since almost no one get any of them. Remember you have to give the names of your friends to the salesman to qualify to get one of them free.


Post# 413057 , Reply# 51   8/24/2019 at 06:55 by Chris (WV)        
Question

Is the motor and water basin removable from the dolly? If not that's going to make stairs a PITA

Post# 413067 , Reply# 52   8/24/2019 at 21:46 by juju93 (florida)        
heres a video link

Well I dont have carpet so i dont need the aquamate (eventhough i still want it). Is there any way I could opt out the aquamate for say something like the 14ft hose or the 4qt water basin? Also I did the calculations of what the payments would come out to and it was no where near 5k. I did as followed.
$50x 36 (months typically finance)= 1800
$75x36=2700
so I'm looking at between 1800-2700. I prefer to spend more and get it brand new rather than buy it used at a pawn shop.





can we just talk about how cool this new model is. That 2qt water basin looks really small to me. hopefully they have the 4qt basin for this model, that and the 14ft hose. Those are my 2 must haves for this model.


Post# 413068 , Reply# 53   8/24/2019 at 22:54 by henrydreyfuss (Ohio)        
Thanks for sharing that video Juju!

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The SRX looks fantastic. I'm stoked Rexair made so many improvements to the new machine. The new power nozzle looks great (that looks like a lifetime belt on there!), and the way the bin slides out looks much easier. The cord looks longer too. Can't wait to get my hands on one someday.

On a marketing note, the music in the second 'features' part of that video is surprisingly catchy for a vacuum ad!


Post# 413070 , Reply# 54   8/25/2019 at 08:54 by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
Power nozzle.

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Well there's the confirmation that the belt path is in the center. I just don't like that, I hate having that dead spot in the cleaning path, especially with bypass designs. Why would they move away from it with the E2 black's later revision and then move back to it again? I have to wonder if there would be another revision to it later on? Though the side brushes are no longer present so probably not.

Post# 413074 , Reply# 55   8/25/2019 at 12:30 by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
how disappointing

I loved it until I saw the (again) lack of a cord winder. I could have sworn that the photo of the "features list" said pull-release cord storage. I thought for sure they would finally add that. They didn't.

Not paying that much for a vacuum that lacks such a simple addition.

:-(


Post# 413075 , Reply# 56   8/25/2019 at 16:02 by Juju93 (florida)        

Donít get me wrong the video is nice but itís a bit dramatic in terms of music and how itís being presented. I mean come on itís not a dramatic movie. After seeing the improvements and features part of the video I have a few questions to add.
1. When it says quick release function, is it the same thing as the Dyson quick release function?
2. Is that sliding notch on the nozzle work the same way as the notch on the Dyson cordless heads?
3. Also what is that blue lever on the back of the power nozzle?


Post# 413076 , Reply# 57   8/25/2019 at 16:14 by Chris (WV)        

The blue lever is to release the wand from the upright postion. I really don't think a cord winder is necessary. They would have to make the motor unit bigger to accommodate it and most people would probably end up breaking it anyway. I read somewhere rexair doesn't use cord winders because they know people will abuse them leading to alot of repairs

Post# 413080 , Reply# 58   8/25/2019 at 17:41 by beagledad (Florida)        

I agree Blackheart. Why would they put the belt in the middle of the air path? Not only does it reduce the surface area of the brush but it impedes airflow. Not to mention all of that dirt and debris will quickly wear down the belt. The belt needs to be on the side where it is out of the way of the air path and protected. And still no height adjustment.

Post# 413081 , Reply# 59   8/25/2019 at 18:23 by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        
Conceptual images on video

This is no different than going to an auto show and seeing a ďconcept carĒ deemed to be available in the near future. We shouldnít even be privy to this video. Someone bootlegged it and made it available online. If I were to give merit to any images of the power nozzle, Iíd have to acknowledge that it appears thereís some sort of belt guard, or something to isolate the belt from the air way/dirt path. After all, if itís on the internet, it must be true....

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Post# 413087 , Reply# 60   8/25/2019 at 20:49 by Juju93 (florida)        

Iím kind of curious to how strong the magnetic thing is on the hose. Like what I mean is when you pull the rainbow with the hose you would think the hose would come off since the machine. If that make any sense.

Post# 413088 , Reply# 61   8/25/2019 at 22:37 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
I would hope

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that the dolly is removable and that's just a feature for easy changing/putting on the basin. Imagine if it's not removable how much of a pain it would be to clean the separator or the underside. Surely it's removable. I can't imagine it's fixed like that. OR, if it is fixed like that, perhaps it's easy turn upside down with no issues for cleaning. I've dealt with a rainbow belt in the center for a long time.My biggest wonder is the 30% more airflow. That's A LOT! I wonder what they are doing to achieve this since water filtration vacuums have a limit and I thought they reached that limit with the 2 speeds

Post# 413089 , Reply# 62   8/25/2019 at 22:54 by beagledad (Florida)        

They could gain airflow by switching to a crushproof hose but it doesn't look like they did from watching the video. So many missed opportunities with this "upgrade".

Post# 413118 , Reply# 63   8/27/2019 at 00:37 by rivstg1 (colorado springs)        
beagle dad

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How does a hose's durability or flexibility guarantee its flow characteristics ? I don't understand the correlation.
k


Post# 413119 , Reply# 64   8/27/2019 at 02:37 by man114 (Buffalo NY)        
Mark

Where did you hear the two speed was at the limit for airflow for a water vac?

If they were at the limit maybe the 30% airflow improvement is at the powerhead which Iím sure could be achieved by streamlining the airflow paths in the powerhead to eliminate airflow turbulence and leaks which would reduce effective airflow. Perhaps this is the reason for moving the belt back to the center. Perhaps something along the lines of the Hoover Dual V Iím thinking of in terms of internal powerhead design.


Post# 413120 , Reply# 65   8/27/2019 at 03:01 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
I think I remember reading

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that water filtration vacuums have a limit otherwise water gets sucked to the motor. I'm no engineer, so I don't know if that's true. They definitely have improved airflow over the years with various models, but it's stayed pretty much the same with the 2-speed brushless motors.....so that's just what I assumed.

Post# 413131 , Reply# 66   8/27/2019 at 12:07 by beagledad (Florida)        

Rivstg1

The interior of a crushproof hose is smoother the inside of a wire-reinforced house. Less resistance = better airflow.

This is a good example.






Post# 413132 , Reply# 67   8/27/2019 at 12:22 by rivstg1 (colorado springs)        

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@mark40511. There hasnít been much improvement on airflow for Rainbows since 1980, sadly....even some later ones were worse than previous ones ...ie the SE PE model had worse airflow than the earlie SE model . According to Blackheartsís and Vaclabís airflow testing ....very little cfm improvement ...like 4-10 cfm. :-(. I bet the water lift is similar or no improvement over the same period . I really hope he hoped for airflow improvement comes from a improved power-nozzle design if itís true that they are at the limit for power on a water based machine . Heres to hoping for the best!!

Post# 413133 , Reply# 68   8/27/2019 at 12:27 by rivstg1 (colorado springs)        
Beagledad

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Interesting video! I guess I wasnít assuming that the crushproof name/design automatically meant it had Better airflow....perhaps it does. The inner hose design make all the difference so suppose im learning that crushproof always insinuates a smooth inner hose vs he rubbed wire ones.
Thanks!!
K


Post# 413138 , Reply# 69   8/27/2019 at 15:20 by juju93 (florida)        

as long as it cleans better than my dyson cordless and has good agitation thats all i care about. I was kind of hoping rexair would've came up with a newly design aquamate or new design rainjet, but sadly they didnt change either accessories, just the decals and box designs on them. kind of was hoping for "aquamate 4" to come out alongside this new SRX model. Looking online it looks like in the asian markets they also get the sprayer/rexafoamer with their machines. Does anybody know why that is and why we don't. Also the quick release function is that just for the power nozzel only or does that mean connection pieces have a quick release function? I also wonder how the new pet grooming tool will work. like does it work the same way as the dyson groom tool or does it work differently. What I mean is, is it a brush that sucks the hair up into the machine or is it a brush that glenty brushes the dog and not suck up any fur. Hopefully within the next few years Rexair launches some new optional accessories to be used with the new(er) models. Maybe something to buff and polish floors.

Post# 413494 , Reply# 70   9/7/2019 at 11:38 by tekjunkie28 (Roanoke Va)        

We will see the new Rainbow sooner than you think. I heard from a little bird that 4-8weeks. I also heard that SRX on paper has less lift but more air flow? Idk how that is possible or where they are taking measurements from. I do know that the new PN has a bar that goes all the way across but can't/shouldn't be used on bare floors. I got to thinking and I bet they made changes so that the PN will seal up better on carpet which I will discuss in a sec. Hose connection as of right now is not the same.


Now back to the PN sealing to carpet... I was doing some once a month cleaning behind the couches and I first cleaned with my Sentria 2 which has a new bag. I vacuumed slowly and in multiple directions. I wanted to deep clean and fluff the carpet a bit. I them switched to the Rainbow black to get the edges and just do a personal test. The Rainbow blew the Kirby away and I am shocked. It picked up A LOT more sand and some kitty litter.. it was so noticeable I could easily hear it going through my hose. I have no known issues with my Kirby and it's brand new to me. The previous owner was elderly and I think only used it once. It didn't have any wear. So if the SRX PN sucked to the carpet better (bc otherwise I don't know of any airflow improvements) then we are looking at a beast. But this leads to another question. I hope that sincr the brush roll goes the full length of the PN that airflow per square inch is the same or much better. I want rainbow to make a larger hose as that seems to have the most impact from judging by the sounds when I connect mine.


Post# 413496 , Reply# 71   9/7/2019 at 13:52 by Juju93 (florida)        

I had a feeling that it was going to be sooner than the end of the year before we got the new SRX. I say this because if people want the new model compare to getting the old E2 Black then Rexairs going to have to cut back the production or reduce the cost of the E2 Black in order to sell them. Iím excited for this new model and the various improvements it has, mostly the quieter operation. Can you ask your source if thereís a 14ft hose and 4qt basin for the new model? Those are the 2 main things I want with this model. Also does anyone know how long itíll take for Rexair to update the website with the new model and all the information on it as well as the videos and manuals?


Post# 413506 , Reply# 72   9/7/2019 at 16:53 by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
More flow less suction.

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From what we've seen the motor appears to be a single stage. the more stages a motor has the more suction it will generally have. Though with each additional stage you lose some flow, there are stationary stages between them which makes the airpath more complex. It could also be that the fan is deeper which would would most likely require more torque to move.

Post# 413507 , Reply# 73   9/7/2019 at 17:13 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
Wait

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PN sealing to carpet? Isn't that a BAD thing?
I thought by sealing it would cut off the airflow - similar to you putting your hand over the wand suction? Same with the hard floor brush - they cut out grooves in the brush so get airflow...Or am I wrong? LOL I dunno.


Post# 413516 , Reply# 74   9/7/2019 at 20:01 by Juju93 (florida)        

The new SRX power nozzle has a sliding air vent on it, kind of like the Dyson torque cleaner heads have a sliding notch, the same goes with the SRX power nozzle. It has a sliding notch that controls the airflow.

Off topic: does anybody know how long it take for Rexair to update their website, as soon as the SRX launches, with all the new videos and manuals for it?


Post# 413517 , Reply# 75   9/7/2019 at 20:13 by rivstg1 (colorado springs)        
Kirby's pn seals to the carpet

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and it flows air incredibly well

Post# 413549 , Reply# 76   9/8/2019 at 08:02 by chris (WV)        

After doing some google searching and translating i found that Hong Kong was the first to receive the new SRX on august 22. Personally i think the we should have gotten it first since its made in the USA. Its selling at nearly 40,000 yuan which in us dollars is $5,621.40.

Post# 413550 , Reply# 77   9/8/2019 at 08:08 by Juju93 (florida)        

5k is a lot for a rainbow cleaning system. If you look at the fb search engine and search ďrainbow SRXĒ youíll see a lot of things about it due to the fact that the Asian market got it first.

Post# 413608 , Reply# 78   9/9/2019 at 02:44 by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

If it is going to be close to 6K----That vacuum had better fill its bin,assemble itself,do the work,than empty its bin,disassble itself and put away in the closet by itself!!Think of it for that price folks will probably hire maids and janitorial services instead.They are pricing themselves out of the market!WON'T BUY!!!

Post# 413617 , Reply# 79   9/9/2019 at 11:43 by broomvac (N/A)        

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Found this online.

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Post# 413618 , Reply# 80   9/9/2019 at 12:03 by juju93 (florida)        

oh there's plenty more where that came from, especially on the facebook search engine. This may sound random but does anyone know the official name for this model. Like what I mean is, is it SRX (followed by a color), or is it just SRX? For example the past few rainbow models have had their names (e2) and then a color following it, ex:
E2 Gold
E2 Silver
E2 Black

Is this basically following that same method of naming a model? Like could the offical name be SRX blue (due to the blue accent piece and blue markings)


Post# 413747 , Reply# 81   9/13/2019 at 05:59 by chris (WV)        

If go type in rainbow cleaning system on twitter you'll find the company that did the website and there is some pics on that link of the website and a use and care video

Post# 413750 , Reply# 82   9/13/2019 at 10:07 by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        
Its stillA big hunk of cheap plastic

And that's why I would never buy one , If I was a billionare I wouldn't

Post# 413751 , Reply# 83   9/13/2019 at 10:33 by juju93 (florida)        
Omg

push22.com/case-study/rexair-srx/...

well this answers a lot of my questions. I'm sad they don't have a 4qt basin for this model, but im glad they do have an extended hose.

As for the owners manual, it looks nice, but Rexair shouldve made the cover of it white and blue, that way it can match the box/packaging.

in terms of the packing i love the clean and simple white and blue color scheme of it.


Post# 413755 , Reply# 84   9/13/2019 at 13:27 by rivstg1 (colorado springs)        
not only do they.....

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not only is there not a 4 qt basin...the design appears to limit the size of the basin to just what it comes with ( presumably a 2qt limitation). I sure hope the CFM has increased noticeably

Thanks for posting that site for us all to view!!!!!


Post# 413774 , Reply# 85   9/13/2019 at 23:00 by man114 (Buffalo NY)        

The big disadvantage to the single size basin is if you have a lot of area to vacuum you might be stuck changing the water more, but if itís easier to change the basin then it might even that out.




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