Thread Number: 38672
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Post# 410987 , Reply# 1   6/28/2019 at 21:48 (1,735 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)   |   | |
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Consumer Reports did used to be good - the trouble is since the 2010's they started accepting payoffs to skew the reviews in the brand's favor...ahem ahem...Dyson....Apple...etc.
I have some old books from the mid 90's, they are definitely more in depth and accurate in their reviews. But the fact they are using the public to base their reliability reviews on is worrying. Just go to Walmart.com and read all the 1 star reviews of vacuum cleaners and you will see why. It's all from people that don't know the bin has to be emptied, or that the belts need to be changed, etc etc. The last Dyson I bought off eBay the seller said didn't clean properly or suck anything up anymore - they had the filter in backwards, the brushroll socket was broken, and the bristles on the roller were worn down to nubs. |
Post# 411003 , Reply# 3   6/29/2019 at 09:32 (1,734 days old) by Dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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I called them communist reports for a reason. They always lie. In December, 1936, communist reports said the airway twin motor was unacceptable as a vacuum cleaner, they rated the Hoover model 150 the lowest in their ratings as well. The general electric AV1 was the number one vacuum cleaner. It’s like comparing a Regina housekeeper to a Kirby. I have never ever believed them.
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Post# 411007 , Reply# 4   6/29/2019 at 11:43 (1,734 days old) by completenutt (West Hollywood, California)   |   | |
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I always used to be fascinated by Consumer Reports as a young boy.
I went to test brands and models they liked (like vacuums!) and avoided those they didn't recommend. I even thought it would be a fantastic career to work for them and test appliances all day everyday! That really does sound awesome.
That enthusiasm for their recommendations died down when I realized that they were playing favorites, and came to a complete halt when they panned my new car choice in video review by three jackasses that clearly were biased and on power trips. Btw, the 5 year old car still runs great, is a thrill to operate, and with almost zero issues to date!
In this review about vacuum reliability being added in that is really just user reviews... it lowers and completely negates their professional analysis by using the perceptions of reliability by the general public who doesn't know how to clean and maintain a vacuum which of course lowers it's perceived reliability and their perceived experience. I think it's tool for CR to be able to now really play favorites without regard for their own testing.
I call bullshit! |
Post# 411039 , Reply# 5   6/30/2019 at 02:15 (1,734 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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I used to subscribe to CR, but there reports are pretty much useless for details on vacuums any more. I still buy old reports off of ebay, if I can find ones I don't already have...With that said, I have bought vacuums that they did not recommend and liked them and also bought vacuums they recommended, just to be disappointed. I still find that a canister vacuum and an upright are the best combination to have. The old Eureka's, Hoover's, and Electroluxes, were the best in my book. PS for a water filtration vacuum, I have the SE PE and an E2 Black. I prefer my SE PE over the E2 Black. I love the fragrances in the water as well.....
ps, I forgot to mention Filterqueen as another favorite. I actually like the transparent dirt container better, wish they would bring it back. I have a 360 and the Black model that was after that.....
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Post# 411059 , Reply# 9   6/30/2019 at 17:20 (1,733 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)   |   | |
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"I find it interesting that they say that canister vacuums only make up 2 percent of the market I'm sure it's more than that, though uprights do probably have more of the market.
Mike " I would expect it to be higher than 2% as well. But I wouldn't say they are too far off, because most homes in probably the last 15 years have had bagless uprights rather than canisters. When you see canisters from what I've seen it tends to be in homes of older people or those that run cleaning businesses. Look in the aisles of most big box stores and bagless uprights - and now stick vacs dominate. Walmart here only sells one straight suction canister currently, Home Depot has none, Lowes also only has one and Bed Bath and Beyond has none either. The market is definitely skewed toward uprights, and that's what people are buying. After the mid 2000s if you look at the lineups of major big box brands like Hoover, Eureka, Bissell, you notice they have very few canister models in their lineup. And for Hoover and Eureka the ones they have had were a very small lineup compared to their older full size power nozzle machines of the 1970s-early 2000s. Possibly the downfall of Sears has to do with this as well as they have typically been one of the bigger players in the canister market outside of specialty vac shops and appliance dealers. Now if we took into account worldwide canisters, or cylinders would probably have a much bigger market share. |
Post# 411074 , Reply# 12   7/1/2019 at 10:17 (1,732 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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To paraphrase the words of vacuum expert Tom Gasko, when you purchase a clean air upright with the ability to turn off the brush roll, you are getting the functionality of a canister vacuum. |
Post# 411078 , Reply# 14   7/1/2019 at 12:13 (1,732 days old) by Vacfan1982 (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 411147 , Reply# 20   7/3/2019 at 23:09 (1,730 days old) by rivstg1 (colorado springs)   |   | |
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arent the central vacs excessively loud? where does the exhaust go? I wasn't aware that they had exceptional filtration ( compared to many HEPA equipped machines ( b/c they are usually in the garage?) I do recall reading tests of them and they use a LOT more electricity too ( by comparison). just wondering
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Post# 411148 , Reply# 21   7/3/2019 at 23:11 (1,730 days old) by rivstg1 (colorado springs)   |   | |
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Post# 411279 , Reply# 23   7/8/2019 at 09:43 (1,725 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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rivstg1, You mentioned legitimate complaints about the Miele U1. Would you please elaborate? I'd be curious to know more about the weaknesses of this model, because it cleans carpeting nearly as well as the Kirby in CR's tests. Thanks. |
Post# 411283 , Reply# 24   7/8/2019 at 11:30 (1,725 days old) by FantomFan (Rochester, New York)   |   | |
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I quit that long ago. I have articles from 1996-2007, and from 2010-2014. NUMEROUS times, their testing has been inconsistent. Several models, such as the Hoover Windtunnel canister, Windtunnel Ultra, and Tempo's had ratings that changed, even though there were no major mechanical changes to the design of the machines to warrant a different score. Their testing just isn't very accurate. Anybody knows that a Miele or Sebo canister filters much better than a Kenmore canister, yet according to consumer reports a kenmore without a sealed motor compartment and no gasket on the bag still gets an excellent score for emissions. How about Shark? According to Consumer Reports, they are the most reliable upright brand. Look at the actual consumer reviews CR posts on Sharks, and you see the real story on how they break all the time. I will never look to them for anything anymore. They are shameful.
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Post# 411367 , Reply# 25   7/10/2019 at 14:45 (1,723 days old) by rivstg1 (colorado springs)   |   | |
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Vaclabs testing shows disappointing testing results. In my use, - find that way too much of the weight is on the users' arm/hand when vacuuming... more tiring than others. - the filter costs are pricey - its heavy(within 1.5-2 lbs of a Kirby/Rainbow/Miele canister) and very challenging to effectively use to vacuum the carpeted stairs - several reviews from owners who have animals in their homes, report the tubing(air pathway) clogs much too easily ( the airway from the power nozzle has many bends and is long. - besides me, many have recognized ( testing of Blackheart and Vaclab among them) Miele's upright is not in the same class/effectiveness as their canister models. Too much $$ for its lack of cleaning ability. I don't have any animals presently so mine hasn't been 'stressed'. I DO like that its not too loud, is easy to turn over brush roll for hard floor cleaning, swivels for fairly easy manuvering and built in hose/tube, as well as long cord. I wouldn't want it as my only vacuum, but to be an additon to my Kirby/Rainbow/Royal collection and to have near the kitchen for quick spill pick ups, yes! |