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Thread Number: 38567
/ Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
Hoover commercial CH54115 bag blow-by |
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| Post# 410073 6/3/2019 at 09:57 (1,782 days old) by psyberemt (Powder Springs, GA) | ||
So I recently moved from an apartment with a mix of carpet and hardfloors to a larger house with wall to wall carpet. I love my Miele C2 Compact Electro + but the bag size is a little small for the house, so I decided it's time for an upright. I should also mention that I have a long-coated German Shedder...I mean Shepherd LOL.
I decided on the Hoover Commercial Hushton CH54115 initially. Being a commercial vac I figured it would stand up to the years of dog hair and I like the fact that it's easy to service. Unfortunately it seems to have a fatal flaw...dust escapes the bag right at the inlet. It stays inside the bag compartment and I don't smell any dust escaping what is supposed to be a sealed HEPA system, but it bothers me to no end. My Miele is 3 years old and the bag compartment looks as clean as the day I bought it. I decided to just return it and went to my local Sebo dealer and picked up a new X5 Automatic (that I love!). Unfortunately I waited too long and I'm now past the Amazon return policy. Today I decided to see if I could fix it, or at least improve it. I thought maybe the seal on the pre-installed bag was just worn out from being stretched on there so long so I removed it, thoroughly cleaned the inside of the compartment with my new Sebo, replaced the bag and vacuumed the entire house. Sure enough, still getting blow-by. Any ideas on what I could do to potentially fix this? I still really like the cleaner, but I don't want fine dust going everywhere each time I change the bag! | ||
| Post# 410079 , Reply# 2 6/3/2019 at 21:09 (1,782 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA) | ||
idk, but a few things that come to mind.
1. Maybe a bad batch of bags, or, some idiot in a warehouse somewhere opened a box of bags with a box cutter and nicked the edges of the bags. You'd be surprised how often any number of different goods are damaged in that way. If I were you, I would get some totally different bags, like aftermarket ones, and give them a shot to see if they leak the same or not. If at least for no better reason than to rule out the bags completely. 2. Maybe it's not leaking at all, and the dust gets blown there upon removal of the bag. Unfortunately it doesn't look like you can examine that area without removing the bag. :/ For that, though, I feel like you would notice some dust collecting on the motor prefilter (assuming it has one?). You could place a white paper towel over the prefilter (or at least the hole the motor inhales from), go vacuum a bunch, then check to see if the napkin is dusty. That'll confirm whether there is dust bypassing the bag. 3. The bag holder thingy might have a sharp edge that nicks the bag as you install it. Maybe remove the bag and run your fingers over the whole thing to make sure there's nothing sharp. | ||
| Post# 410086 , Reply# 3 6/3/2019 at 22:12 (1,782 days old) by broomvac (N/A) | ||
Hoover synthetic HEPA bags tend to have not only better filtration, but also better seals than their paper counterparts.
Do Hoover make synthetic HEPA cloth bags for the Hushtone? A brief googling came up fruitless, but that doesn't mean they aren't out there. Even if they don't exist now, they likely will at some point. | ||
| Post# 410099 , Reply# 4 6/4/2019 at 10:15 (1,781 days old) by psyberemt (Powder Springs, GA) | ||
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@Patrick -- thanks so much for the detailed reply and pictures! I feel so much better that I didn't just buy a terribly designed machine now! I cleaned between bags and also noticed how rough I had to be to get the new bag to fit. I am going to do a thorough check of my new bags to see if there are holes. Am also going to check the tightness on the fill tube screws and whatnot. Hopefully it's something simple.
@broomvac -- I don't think they do :( I have searched and searched as I strongly prefer the synthetic Miele style bags, but I can't find any. These allergy bags do seem to have a thin lining of synthetic material inside the paper, but they aren't as good as the real thing. Really appreciate all the replies and advice! I was kicking myself for buying a dud...maybe it can be saved lol. | ||
| Post# 410121 , Reply# 6 6/5/2019 at 08:30 (1,781 days old) by psyberemt (Powder Springs, GA) | ||
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So I figured it out... user error LOL. As Patrick mentioned the bags are a bit oversized for the compartment. When I put the first 2 bags in I rolled the top of the bag up a bit to make it easier to fit. That resulted in the actual depth of the top of the bag being very limited. My guess is the dust was just immediately hitting the back of the bag and blowing out.
I put another bag in yesterday and instead of rolling it up I gently pressed it into place to take up all the space in the top of the cage. Vacuumed the entire house again and no dust! Thanks again for all the help! | ||
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