Thread Number: 38557
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Very High Priced Vacuums - The Future? |
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Post# 409990   5/31/2019 at 12:43 (1,763 days old) by robsmith1977 (Shippensburg, Pennsylvania)   |   | |
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In all of the years that I've been alive, I never thought I would see a $2,500.00 vacuum cleaner (that was not a central vac or a commercial appliance) being sold to the average customer. Companies like Aerus and Rexair are now doing this. Where do you think these companies will be in 5 - 10 years? Who in their right mind would spend that much money on a vacuum? I mean you'd have to be a fool not to see that the cost to produce them couldn't be more than $300. Thoughts?
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Post# 409993 , Reply# 2   5/31/2019 at 13:54 (1,763 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)   |   | |
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Yes, one of the challenges companies like Aerus and Kirby face is they also have to compete with themselves. It's hard to justify shelling out a couple of grand for a new high-end machine when well maintained secondhand models that still have decades of use left in them can be had for about the same price as a brand new plasticrap vac that's maybe going to last two years with the typical (ab)use they receive. And that's not to mention the ones that are left on the curb with a full bag and a broken belt.
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Post# 410001 , Reply# 4   5/31/2019 at 17:48 (1,763 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)   |   | |
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Well people will spend $800 on a Dyson, so there's that. People think more money means better quality and will not hesitate to mortgage their house to get it. Then the price depreciates like a rock and within 5-6 years it is worthless.
My mother got suckered into paying $2 grand for a Kirby in 2002, now you can get them on eBay for $50. |
Post# 410012 , Reply# 5   5/31/2019 at 21:31 (1,763 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)   |   | |
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Post# 410015 , Reply# 6   5/31/2019 at 22:02 (1,763 days old) by CMBCOOL01 (Texas)   |   | |
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I understand mabye 1200 for a kirby considering shit like Dyson is 800 but some of the other high class machines are ridiculous no vacuum should ever be over 1500 |
Post# 410021 , Reply# 9   6/1/2019 at 06:29 (1,762 days old) by man114 (Buffalo NY)   |   | |
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It’s not a waste of cash to spend $2500 on a vacuum when you consider they usually last decades. Regardless there will be people that buy them. |
Post# 410092 , Reply# 10   6/4/2019 at 00:33 (1,760 days old) by rivstg1 (colorado springs)   |   | |
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you ask where the company's that sell $$ vacs be in 5-10 years? Id say , based on the past 50years....they'll still be there...thats the story with most of them anyway....they've been around forever mostly selling door to door (Riccarr's aren't, I think their most expensive model is about $1800.
They do last a long while...but dang....thats a lot of money for a vac ($2-3k) |
Post# 410098 , Reply# 11   6/4/2019 at 09:24 (1,759 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Yes, look at those old Kirbys, and, the Hoover Convertibles. They last, practically forever, with proper care and service. True, parts wear out, but just look at them!!
My sister just bought a Shark!!!!!!! (no kidney for her)! She's giving me her old Hoover canister that just 'died' after 25 years. We'll see.......................But, when you realize that a 1940s Hoover cost almost $100.00 THEN....... Convert that. |
Post# 410117 , Reply# 13   6/4/2019 at 21:54 (1,759 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)   |   | |
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The other night, in our Discord server, a friend posted this photo (probably found it on funnyjunk or some place). Do you honestly believe these people would think twice about investing $1500 for a vac?
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Post# 410120 , Reply# 14   6/5/2019 at 06:58 (1,758 days old) by frkirby560 (Memphis, TN)   |   | |
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If you allow for dollar value per years of inflation, a Hoover Model 62 with attachments which sold in 1951 for $123.00 today would be $1208.00. The prices for the high end vacuums are not that out of line given the quality and versatility that they possess. |
Post# 410148 , Reply# 15   6/6/2019 at 00:30 (1,758 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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MadMan - Those people spent $64G for dinner?!?!!!!! OUCH!!! That is WAY TOO MUCH to be spending out at a restaurant. Those people have much more money than they do common sense. :P
As for high priced/high end vacuums, I don't think that will stop anytime soon. There are always people out there that realize that little old saying "you get what you pay for!" is very true. Especially in today's world where everything seems to be cheaply made & made in China. About 70% to 80% of consumers will buy low & mid end vacuums, & be totally satisfied with their cleaning performance & they don't realize if they replace their vacuums more often, they might as well have just bought 1 really good vacuum that not only lasts MUCH longer, but cleans much better too. Then there are the other 20% to 30% who do "get it" & don't mind spending over $700-$800, even into the thousands, to get a quality vacuum that lasts a long time & cleans well. Like Gmarquez said above, the cost can be justified when you factor in the extra features & engineering, longer lifespan & better cleaning performance. The fact that Miele has grown so much in recent years, selling high end German canisters that sell anywhere from $500 to $1500, proves that there are people who WILL pay those prices once they get fed up with buying low-end, disposable vacuums that don't clean well & constantly break. As for Human/Edgar & his assertion that companies like Aerus & Kirby's competition are their own secondhand models, he makes a valid point. But, there will always people out there that, for whatever reason, despite the money they would save buying used & doing minor repairs/refurbishment, insist they don't want someone else's dirt & want to buy new. And I don't see the door to door method of selling high-end vacuums going away anytime soon. Certain brands that are "unique", like Rainbow, Filter Queen & Kirby, do need to be demonstrated to a customer for them to see the advantages of the product. And like Luxkid1980 said above, part of the reason they would buy is they are building a relationship with that dealer they can count on if something goes wrong with their new vacuum. Kirbybb - Unfortunately, what that Aerus dealer told you about Miele motors being non-serviceable is correct. The earlier Miele canisters before 2004, that had the Ametek & Miele-made double stage motors, were indeed serviceable & able to be rebuilt. However, the Vortex single stage motor they have used since 2004, is indeed non-serviceable. Watch some of the YouTube videos out there showing Miele vacuums being repaired & rebuilt, they pretty much have to tear apart the entire motor just to get to the carbon brushes, & the skills some of these people have repairing that motor would be beyond the abilities of some repairmen working in vacuum shops. Plus I have never heard of the carbon brushes being available for the Vortex motors as a separate part. I wouldn't use that as a excuse to not buy a plastic Aerus or Miele though - bear in mind those Miele vacuums are designed & engineered to last 20 years use in most people's homes. Sure, the motor is disposable, but considering what you paid for the entire vacuum & it's lifespan, it's very much a viable option. Rob |
Post# 410296 , Reply# 16   6/10/2019 at 09:54 (1,753 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Of all the door to door as well as "high end" cleaners, Aerus Electrolux has what I consider to be a great sales model. There are three tank-type models. In my opinion, the Classic is all anyone needs. Used with HEPA disposable bags, they are very clean running, and sell for less than $1000. There's nothing that cannot be repaired about the Classic. While their upper end models can retail for close to $2000, I don't see how they could remove more dirt than the Classic model.
With Kirby, Rainbow, Tri-Star, etc. they only make one model, so it's either buy it or leave it. Miele is a machine one either loves or completely dislikes. The uprights clean like a dream, but are quite heavy and the repair parts costs to the customer is outrageous. The canisters are fine, but the hoses are quite stiff and the power nozzle feels very heavy to push for an hour's cleaning time. They ARE durable and can take more abuse than most cleaners, so I think they'll stick around. Tacony has fired so many important people that I cannot see how that brand will survive long. I've seen with my own eyes that drop in quality as more and more of the machine's production goes to China. Sebo is a high quality machine, I just wish someone would make it pretty. To sum it up, most high priced brands will survive in some way - but I think the door to door sales model is on its way out in favor of people making a choice as opposed to being made to feel your home is filthy if you don't buy a $2000+ vacuum sold by a stranger standing in your living room. People love to BUY but hate to be SOLD. |
Post# 410330 , Reply# 17   6/11/2019 at 13:56 (1,752 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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I've seen that the Airstorm dropped their price for a little more than half off. They're basically the same vacuum as the Patriot.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO panasonicvac's LINK |
Post# 410342 , Reply# 19   6/11/2019 at 17:30 (1,752 days old) by S2_82 (Ohio)   |   | |
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Tom, I am curious what your thoughts are about the latest Aerus Guardian upright. Any long term reliability issues? |
Post# 410416 , Reply# 22   6/13/2019 at 14:21 (1,750 days old) by CMBCOOL01 (Texas)   |   | |
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I will say the Dyson score of 3/10 on Carpets is probably a pretty accurate rating |
Post# 410418 , Reply# 23   6/13/2019 at 16:34 (1,750 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)   |   | |
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Shark is junk, end of story. You will be lucky to get a couple years out of one. I'm not in to Kirby's either since I prefer canisters instead of uprights but there is no question that Kirby machines are made better than Sharks, there is no comparison there. Mike |
Post# 410461 , Reply# 25   6/14/2019 at 14:03 (1,749 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)   |   | |
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Post# 410756 , Reply# 27   6/22/2019 at 01:01 (1,742 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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The Areus-Lux place near me sells vacuums,air and water purifiers and Laundry Pro units from their store with no home demos anymore.Also central vac units.For the Laundry Pro and central vacs they send someone to your place to install those. |