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A little challenge for those who luckily own a Hoover Senior 652 - Pink
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Post# 43832   6/15/2008 at 14:59 (5,790 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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Well what a lucky Saturday I had yesterday when Pul and nipped over to see Mike in Chester when we went to his storage container to see some of his vacs and washers there.

On route I notifced a skip outside someones house with what I thought to be a junked Hoover Ranger thrown atop.

Well 1 second later I saw a pink handle sheath sticking out which caused great excitement and me having to yell for Mike to pull over so we could go rescue it.

So off it came with the owners permission and the poor bedraggled thing was rescued.

It was in a right state as you can imagine after having a non original bag fitted, a new cord and years of abuse thrown at it.

The weirdly amazing thing though is it dosnt have the dark red footswitch on it but a bright red one - much like those from the U.S Hoover Vaults imported from the UK.

We checked its serial number and it seems its a really early one - suggested by the Hoover service manuals that it was made in the first 6 months of production.

We have spent some time today cleaning it up and stripping it down with Nitromores to re spray it and make it new again.

It was dinged to hell and wanted the FULL spa, botox and facelift treatment.

So heres some pics of the serial number

It would be fun for those who own one to post pics of the serial number to see who has the earliest...


So who has?

:) :) :)

Rob and Paul


Post# 43833 , Reply# 1   6/15/2008 at 15:00 (5,790 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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Serial number

JS 23409


Post# 43834 , Reply# 2   6/15/2008 at 15:01 (5,790 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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Underside

Post# 43835 , Reply# 3   6/15/2008 at 15:01 (5,790 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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Pink

Post# 43836 , Reply# 4   6/15/2008 at 15:02 (5,790 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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Dinged to hell

Notice the red switch.....


Post# 43837 , Reply# 5   6/15/2008 at 15:05 (5,790 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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More red switch vision.

The cleaners new lease of life will be posted when I get our camera back off Paul later this week, by then it should hopefully look its best.

I have plans to source some nice pink fabric to make a bag and get it printed with Hoover down the side as finding the original bag is practically impossible.

At least a nice pink bag of some sorts is nicer than a Harvest Brown thing.



Post# 43838 , Reply# 6   6/15/2008 at 15:29 (5,790 days old) by z30soulbrother (West Midlands, UK)        
rescued senior

Hi Mate!
What a fantastic find! What are we talking 1958/9? Is it a 2 speed? It looks like hose has been used regulary as paint is scratched in converter housing. Didnt this model have the metal slide top bag clip on that delicate material bag with a paper bag inside? I dont think that particular type bag lasted well did it? and i suppose after 50years you would struggle to find a machine of this model with the bag surviving ay? Never mind this will be great when its finished WELL DONE!

Si


Post# 43839 , Reply# 7   6/15/2008 at 15:33 (5,790 days old) by z30soulbrother (West Midlands, UK)        
Headlamp

forgot to ask does the bulb work? I managed to get a brand new replacement for mine from a nearby repair shop

si


Post# 43842 , Reply# 8   6/15/2008 at 16:04 (5,790 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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Simon - We dated my example to around May/June 1959 or so.
They started production in Feb 1959.


~I dont know that much about Seniors or De Luxes in this instance but im learning.

We had a couple of seniors in my family as I grew up and im having to learn all the facts as i collect them.

I prey someone else is going to good enough at answering your questions - perhaps Simon (74 Simon) or Seamus maybe - cheers if you do :)


Its headlamp dosnt work but we have spares we can put in when restored.

Cheers

Rob





Post# 43843 , Reply# 9   6/15/2008 at 16:47 (5,790 days old) by z30soulbrother (West Midlands, UK)        
cheers

cheers for that Rob, i love these machines but am still learning myself! its all good fun!
si


Post# 43849 , Reply# 10   6/15/2008 at 19:01 (5,790 days old) by myhooverco ()        

Rob...

Congrats on you latest Hoover find! The 652 is a beautiful machine. I am sure that you will make it gleam. Here is a photo of mine. Your switch is the same color too. The other 652s that I have seen seem to have a maroon foot switch. Can anyone shed any light on this? Mine is a 110 machine so it runs perfectly without any changing of the voltage.

--Tom


Post# 43877 , Reply# 11   6/16/2008 at 06:09 (5,790 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Hoover - Who Better...!!! & Pretty in Pink!!!

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Well that was the find of the centuary Rob & Paul!!!, Just as well you where being the back seat driver, I`d have never have noticed it as its on a very busy corner junction, near a Pelican crossing and has speed bumps all along the road, its enough just driving forward!!! (Rob nearly deafened me & Paul, we thought he was having some sort of fit, he could get the words out only, STOP, STOP TURN Round NOW!!!...LOL

Upon looking at the serial number of it, its an early one, and seeing the RED foot pedal and RED BELLOWS!!! I remembered the discussion we had when your good self Tom showed us the U652 from Perivale etc....Tom can you check yours to see if yours has gotten RED BELLOWS etc??

Toms`s serial number is JS 23,758, Robs is JS 23, 409, Mine is JS 221,124

The Serial Production Numbers are:
JS. 10,001 - January 1959
JS. 37,500 - July 1959
JS. 346,000 Closed January 1962


Post# 43882 , Reply# 12   6/16/2008 at 08:11 (5,789 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        
Congratulations Turbomaster

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The pictures are great, I love the colors, and the Constellation is fantastic, Chestermike.

Post# 43888 , Reply# 13   6/16/2008 at 10:37 (5,789 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Hoover

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Hi Simon

Its a 1959 model production start, this model only had 1 motor speed, it changed on the next model the 652A in grey to a two speed motor, and yes the first bags had the Top of Bag slide off to empty, with the paper hygenisac inside...

Hi Alan, glad you like the connie, i love the pinkies & burgundy`s of Hoover, lovely colour, I picked up a later set in green, Senior, Junior & Connie + Dustette...the husband had bought his wife a complete set for a georgian townhouse with 3 floors, Senior downstairs, Junior Upstairs bedrooms, Connie for the top floor study / bedroom & a dustette for his car all colour co-ordinated!!!..

Cheers, Mike



Post# 43890 , Reply# 14   6/16/2008 at 10:54 (5,789 days old) by z30soulbrother (West Midlands, UK)        
cheers Mike

Thanks for that, Mike, that must have been the time when the first batch of senior suffered with the melting plastic hood? or was that after the 2speed motor was introduced? I love them in those colours. It must have been so refreshing at that time to see cleaners in the shops and our homes so bright and colourful after years of browns and black/ bronze stern colours not that i dislike them, they were fitting in thier time. I love the seniors I have a blue 652c that came with an older set of tools, The detachable converter and blowing "funnel" and metal pipe clips. Easier to unblock the converter but on the later permanently attached one you had the 4 screw plate. I must admit, it baffles me why hoover settled on this unsealed method of senior converter, when i think competely closing in the fan chamber in that area, so theres no gap when the converter engages would have done the trick, dont you agree?

Si


Post# 43911 , Reply# 15   6/16/2008 at 14:10 (5,789 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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All of the color co-ordinated Hoovers in the Georgian townhouse sound fascinating. I like his way of thinking. We lived in two places after I was born with single floors, three that were two story, and back to one floor here. We only had one vacuum at a time, then later here we got a Hoover(finally!) Concept One for the carpet, and kept the Electrolux for hard floors and dusting.

Post# 43945 , Reply# 16   6/16/2008 at 15:16 (5,789 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham UK)        
js 263054

thats my serial number js 263054 what does that make it?

i should point out i got this for £6 at an auction 10 years ago and did not know they were rare, it has original bag and cable and is in very good condition. I have stopped using it as my daily driver to save it from scratches now i know its rare!

Richard


Post# 43961 , Reply# 17   6/16/2008 at 15:46 (5,789 days old) by myhooverco ()        

Here is a view of the bellows in my 652...pink!

--Tom


Post# 43962 , Reply# 18   6/16/2008 at 15:46 (5,789 days old) by myhooverco ()        

Here is the open top bag with the little clip. Note the model numbers on the bag!

--Tom


Post# 43963 , Reply# 19   6/16/2008 at 15:47 (5,789 days old) by myhooverco ()        

Here is the Company tag that was placed on the machine....

Post# 43975 , Reply# 20   6/16/2008 at 17:02 (5,789 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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Wow Tom, neat machine and fab info!

Heres a video of mine and Pauls in action


CLICK HERE TO GO TO turbomaster1984's LINK


Post# 43977 , Reply# 21   6/16/2008 at 17:13 (5,789 days old) by z30soulbrother (West Midlands, UK)        
kitchen

Hi Richard
love your kitchen.! Its a New World cooker yes? We had one in the 60s with that lighter on the side. Yes lovely Senior there mate. One of my aunts had 1 her daughter my cousin inherited the house i bet its there somewhere. They never threw anything out! Time to pay a visit i think!!
Si


Post# 43985 , Reply# 22   6/16/2008 at 19:04 (5,789 days old) by 74simon ()        
Typical!

Just put mine in storage, but have found a pic of the serial number - 276228, ISTR it dated her to sometime in 1960, she's got white bellows on her, and the darker footswitch.

Congratuations on an ace find though guys, slippery slope ahoy!

I love the sound of those one speed 652s, seem a bit mellower than the later machines. Having said that, I'm very tempted to hotrod mine and fit a two speed motor and the tool suction improver I have on my 6525C, because even though she's a beauty, using her hose is like fighting a losing battle... and I have spare hoods if it goes into meltdown!!!

Didn't the early 652s have 'Hoover' on the wrong side of the bag, ie by the cord hooks?

Si


Post# 43989 , Reply# 23   6/16/2008 at 19:27 (5,789 days old) by 74simon ()        
Superbly elegant!

For discriminating, er, gentlemen...





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Post# 44019 , Reply# 24   6/16/2008 at 22:45 (5,789 days old) by luxg ()        

That was a really fun video, thanks so much for sharing it with us. Terry

Post# 276314 , Reply# 25   4/15/2014 at 09:04 (3,660 days old) by Tim1964 ()        
Pink Cable

Spotted some pink cable on e-bay...
Not the perfect match but not bad


Post# 276346 , Reply# 26   4/15/2014 at 12:18 (3,660 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
nice find

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anyone else noticed the screw in thread 4 that should not be there ? .I have never seen one with the red switch before .Just imagine back in 1959 seeing one of these in a shop window after all the brown stuff heres my three the grey 652a has been in the family since new although its bag is long gone the blue one was i wreck that i recently did up and the green one is my latest find.I am going to make a green bag for it soon its not difficult if you know your way around a sewing machine and it wont be too hard to find pink cloth i made a bag for my 612 a while ago i made a stencil for the logo out of wide masking tape carefully cut out the letters with a razor blade then sprayed coat after coat till i got the desired effect you can see the 612 in the photo

Post# 276358 , Reply# 27   4/15/2014 at 13:27 (3,660 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
Early 652s.....

This came from Ebay for spares- .....

Post# 276359 , Reply# 28   4/15/2014 at 13:28 (3,660 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
Early!!!!

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Post# 276360 , Reply# 29   4/15/2014 at 13:29 (3,660 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
Switch

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Post# 278219 , Reply# 30   4/25/2014 at 19:24 (3,650 days old) by markanthony5 (England Isle of Wight)        
fabulous machines

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I think that really is a great cosmetic resto of the senior looks brilliant seeing all three vac's together like that in the pinks, has got a wow factor for me brilliant.
very 1950s fashion is pink and white you will find that in cars of the period too,especially in america.

I suspect Hoover may of taken some of these trends of design in colour from the car world,along with shapes.

You can also tell this from the 30's hoover's also.

Im seriously envious of the collection you have there


Post# 311094 , Reply# 31   1/6/2015 at 17:12 (3,394 days old) by markanthony5 (England Isle of Wight)        
hi guys just got mine 48 hrs in my ownership for £10.00

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My senior is 22662 serial number and i have the same colour switch as you guys

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Post# 311095 , Reply# 32   1/6/2015 at 17:24 (3,394 days old) by markanthony5 (England Isle of Wight)        
hi 74 simon my hoover sighn is on the other side of the bag

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just noticed that now it was mentioned by you

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Post# 311106 , Reply# 33   1/6/2015 at 19:28 (3,394 days old) by techguy189 ()        
Tturbomaster1984

Did you or anyone else notice the spider or spider like insect in the second picture that you posted with the serial number? Yikes!

-Matt


Post# 311112 , Reply# 34   1/6/2015 at 21:26 (3,394 days old) by markanthony5 (England Isle of Wight)        
that spyder may of lived there since the vac was new lol,

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i hope no one is going to through spyder out of his home lol,after all its got good taste it chose a classic senior to live in

Post# 311118 , Reply# 35   1/6/2015 at 22:19 (3,394 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
excellent find!!

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Best of luck w/ that!!
John


Post# 312239 , Reply# 36   1/16/2015 at 20:03 (3,384 days old) by vacuumkid47 (Sibley, IA)        
WAT

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I just noticed the insect and I don't even know he even knows about it.........


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