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Thread Number: 38445
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Post# 409099 5/4/2019 at 22:55 (1,808 days old) by rodknock95  (Salem, Missouri) |
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A couple vacuums on the market that I gave a home to! Im trying to see if the omega has the correct bag on it.
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Post# 409111 , Reply# 1 5/5/2019 at 09:27 (1,807 days old) by rivstg1 (colorado springs) |
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Good find | ||
| Post# 409136 , Reply# 2 5/6/2019 at 15:42 (1,806 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana) | ||
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Post# 409137 , Reply# 3 5/6/2019 at 17:26 (1,806 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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The one at left is a Classic Omega 1CB, produced from 1973 to 1976. Depending on the serial number, the original shake out bag could be the old-style KGF-40 gold (but with the Classic Omega patch), pinstripes (most 1973-74 production) or diamondback vinyl (1974-76 production). My 1974 Omega has the right pinstriped cloth bag.
And the one at right is a Legend II, produced from 1989 to 1991... the very last Kirby before the Generation 3 showed up (in early 1990). ~Ben
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| Post# 409140 , Reply# 4 5/6/2019 at 19:33 (1,806 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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Post# 409145 , Reply# 5 5/6/2019 at 20:13 (1,806 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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Lesinutah, rodknock95
Les, Blaze,
The F&G conversion bag kits were not very good in their design. They took either the Eureka F&G type disposable bags or the Royal A type disposable bags. The way the fill tube was designed on these aftermarket kits restricted suction to a big extent, that the speed of the Kirby motor increased significantly. ~Ben | ||
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Post# 409154 , Reply# 6 5/6/2019 at 22:55 (1,806 days old) by rivstg1 (colorado springs) |
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yeah Ben, | ||
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Post# 409161 , Reply# 8 5/7/2019 at 01:03 (1,805 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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rodknock95
Blaze,
A perfect alternative conversion system would be to use the Style 3 bag setup used on models Heritage II (Legend) and Legend II. My 1977 Classic III presently has this setup. ~Ben
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| Post# 409163 , Reply# 9 5/7/2019 at 01:20 (1,805 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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I have
Hey
I have a classic Omega bag. Im pretty sure it went to Omega. I also have the patch. If interested email me lesinutah@hotmail.com. | ||
| Post# 409180 , Reply# 10 5/7/2019 at 19:10 (1,805 days old) by Chan55 (Green Bay, WI) | ||
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Kirby I. Converted my classic 3 to the f and g setup and it never worked right after that. The bags would explode and what a mess that was. | ||
| Post# 409182 , Reply# 11 5/7/2019 at 19:30 (1,805 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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Yes
There is a 25-40% strain on motor with an empty bag. Your better using shakeout bag f and g hurts the motor and basically ruins vacuum real quick. Yo would be better putting a Kirby sentria 2 HEPA bag on exhaust it has no restrain on motor. Shakeout is far better than f and g. Shakeout bags are huge and minimal strain on motor unless your bag is overflowing. I have ran multiple tests.
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Post# 409187 , Reply# 12 5/7/2019 at 19:54 (1,805 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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Lesinutah | ||
| Post# 409190 , Reply# 13 5/7/2019 at 20:34 (1,805 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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Hey
I tested 512 519 d80 classic and tradition and across the board the amount of back pressure resistance or whatever you want to call it was 25%-40% across the board. I have my own tubes 2.5 in I used a drill bit cut a chunk of rubber emtor cover and put in my fill tube with sentria 2 topper. I put Lexan sealed emtor top and made hole for my tube assembly. I made sure no air was leaking. I have a 2 prong f and g bag a 3 prong f and g and I made my own for circular emtors. I measured shakeout bag f and g bag my bag and no bag. No bag my bag and shakeout offered no resistance.the Fuller the bag f shakeout caused some resistance. My setup caused no resistance and f and g started at 25% and more in the bag the worse the resistance.
So f and g from 505 to tradition was very similar on every test. That's why I say use shakeout it won't ruin Motor like f and g. I think shakeout got to maybe 10% resistance and by that time your bag is ready to be shaken out. F&g is basically going to burn up your motor. I don't know who came up with it but just use shakeout. The shakeout will not ruin motor. It will actually if emptied about half full will be pretty close to having bag setup I have made. I did the test that's how I know all the percentages. I thought shakeout would be bad but it's actually really good. I knew my bag setup would be great but very surprising how f and g are bad. Les | ||
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