Thread Number: 38372
/ Tag: Recent Vacuum Cleaners from past 20 years
Bye Bye Royal metal vacuums |
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Post# 408376   4/20/2019 at 18:50 (1,804 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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Post# 408377 , Reply# 1   4/20/2019 at 19:29 (1,804 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 408381 , Reply# 2   4/20/2019 at 20:34 (1,804 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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Post# 408389 , Reply# 3   4/20/2019 at 23:40 (1,804 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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Glad I have MSANY Royal metal uprights!!!!What a STUPID move by Royal TTI!!!!!!The person(s) who made this decision should be------FIRED!!!!! |
Post# 408393 , Reply# 4   4/21/2019 at 10:12 (1,803 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)   |   | |
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Post# 408394 , Reply# 5   4/21/2019 at 11:10 (1,803 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 408409 , Reply# 6   4/21/2019 at 18:39 (1,803 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )   |   | |
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Post# 408410 , Reply# 7   4/21/2019 at 19:13 (1,803 days old) by fairfaxclass (Tillamook, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 408412 , Reply# 8   4/21/2019 at 19:56 (1,803 days old) by texaskirbyguy (Plano, TX)   |   | |
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This would be sad, but predictable in the world of product cheapening. Anyone have any more details on this? Links? Press releases? News from Royal itself? |
Post# 408415 , Reply# 9   4/21/2019 at 21:48 (1,803 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )   |   | |
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@texaskirbyguy When they discontinued at the beginning of 2018 the verbal news we got from TTI as dealers if they just weren't selling. I can confirm that you'll be lucky to move one or two units a year in a retail store. But it seemed at the vdta that they were just giving the Royal line the complete axe. ESSCO is now the exclusive distributor for Oreck/Hoover. This might have something to do with their business deal.
I will say I saw some amazing prototypes from TTI I think we'll see some cool stuff coming this year. |
Post# 408419 , Reply# 10   4/21/2019 at 23:57 (1,803 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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Wonder if dealers weren't properly PROMOTING those machines-if not --THE DEALERS are the problem not TTI. |
Post# 408434 , Reply# 12   4/22/2019 at 10:15 (1,802 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 408436 , Reply# 13   4/22/2019 at 10:35 (1,802 days old) by Vacfan1982 (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 408437 , Reply# 14   4/22/2019 at 10:55 (1,802 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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It is true. Where I've worked at, we haven't sold a metal Royal upright in YEARS. We are aware that they are perhaps the best deep cleaning vacuum on the market when it comes to carpets. But, consumers most of the time who would walk in not only want a vacuum that does excellent on carpets but also something that does well on bare floors, has on-board attachments, and something with better filtration for their allergies. That's why we favor Tandem Air uprights over metal Royals. I knew Royal went downhill anyways when they cheapened some of their vacuums and replaced them with other rebadged TTI products besides Dirt Devil.
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Post# 408478 , Reply# 16   4/22/2019 at 21:03 (1,802 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Has anyone heard of berkshire Hathaway. I don't know maybe Warren Buffett the best businessman America may have ever seen. They are worth $300 billion with all their companies. TTI may be big but Mr. Buffett is not going anywhere.
I'd love to see Kirby buy royal vacuum and keep metal upright commercial vacuum cleaner in USA permanently. Les |
Post# 408481 , Reply# 17   4/22/2019 at 21:20 (1,802 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)   |   | |
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And Kirby have no need for Royal, a company that they spent many years sueing for Patten infringement, that would cannibalize Kirby's sales. |
Post# 408483 , Reply# 18   4/22/2019 at 21:26 (1,802 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 408496 , Reply# 19   4/22/2019 at 23:30 (1,802 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)   |   | |
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Sadly, it doesn't seem like Royal was trying very hard. It may be a good vac, but it's based on a design that's almost 100 years old. Consumers don't want to buy old stuff. And if they do, they'll buy actually old stuff. It's that simple. I suppose it is still a little surprising as I would have thought they still marketed/sold them for janitorial work. If they did, they should have plenty of business... but idk.
If you ask me, they were trying to milk the metal uprights for as much profit in sales and as little investment in development as possible, until they couldn't sell any more of them. |
Post# 408501 , Reply# 20   4/22/2019 at 23:54 (1,802 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )   |   | |
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Post# 408503 , Reply# 21   4/23/2019 at 00:15 (1,802 days old) by broomvac (N/A)   |   | |
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I’ll second that. New Royals look old coming out of the box. They are great vacuums, but non-enthusiasts are likely to think they are antiquated. In a way, they are.
When I was wheeling my cart carrying my 1998 1020Z to the counter at the Goodwill recycling center, an employee in probably his early twenties, like me, came up and excitedly remarked “Hey! You got a real old one. They don’t make those any more. Right on!” To someone who probably doesn’t know anything about vacuums, the Royal seemed like a relic. |
Post# 408508 , Reply# 23   4/23/2019 at 06:06 (1,802 days old) by rodknock95 (Salem, Missouri)   |   | |
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I cannot even search for a dealer on their website because of some error or billing issue. If they want to up sales then they should at least start taking care if the basics |
Post# 408511 , Reply# 24   4/23/2019 at 08:25 (1,802 days old) by Johnsmith96 (East Coast)   |   | |
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I got my lightly used on eBay. It is sad but I think it's just because of their styling. We all like modernized products, even decor. It's a niche market for those of us who would care about how well something performs. Most people don't shop at vacuum stores anymore, not mention would the seriously consider touching a royal in a store. I DO understand why they are on their way out the door because everything about them is "classic". Plus if someone did find them to be a neat gadget, they would probably be put off by the belt changes and noise. However I do love mine, glad I got one. The noise is t really bad for me because my house is smaller. It grooms well but the wheels ruin my beautiful carpet lines.
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Post# 408513 , Reply# 25   4/23/2019 at 08:55 (1,802 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 408530 , Reply# 26   4/23/2019 at 13:44 (1,801 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 408531 , Reply# 27   4/23/2019 at 13:57 (1,801 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 408550 , Reply# 29   4/23/2019 at 21:03 (1,801 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)   |   | |
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Honestly I think what the other said about plastic machines that are throw away is part of it.
Even most commercial places I see these days, are not using the commercial vacuums. They are using bagless Bissells and other machines that are not even the commercial version of the household units. No commercial Hoovers, no Royals, no Windsors, no Sanitaires. I knew a hotel that had great Sanitaires. A few years later I see they are vacuuming with crappy BOL Bissell Powerforce bagless uprights. It's the norm these days. I also think with the younger generations, they don't give a crap about vacuums. If they are they just want tech and flash factor, and that's what the Roombas, Dyson stick vacs, etc give them. They're not interested in performance, they don't want or need a Kirby, a full size upright, a canister or any of that. They don't have interest in deep cleaning. And a lot of young people are poor and live in small apartments so there's no need for a full size vacuum anyway. Maybe as they start to have more income and possibly move into larger places, a full size, and maybe higher end, better quality vacuum will be what they're looking for. IDK. But I think it'll be a while before they're looking for a Kirby or anything besides what you can get at the local Walmart or Bed Bath and Beyond. |
Post# 408661 , Reply# 32   4/25/2019 at 23:15 (1,799 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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If you bulked up the royal and use about 1/2inch to 1 inch think sound dampeners and a amodel fan the royal would be quiet and out perform anything on the market currently. The sanitairre line is good but a royal with adaptations would be slightly better. Sanitairre is pretty close to commercial gold standard. Saying there a thing of the past is true but small change it would outperform any commercial vacuum. The bag unit they could use a bag setup like sanitairre quick clean. I'd maybe give metal brush roll too and have bristle inserts like vibrate groom brushes.
I know it won't happen but noise dampeners amodel fan metal brush roll quick clean bag system it would be the gold standard. It's being bastardized like an oreck and a hoover the changes I mentioned would keep it quality and not a freaking oreck or Hoover. There is nothing against Hoover but current lineup is pure turds. Les |