Thread Number: 38357
/ Tag: 80s/90s Vacuum Cleaners
Why Does Dyson Credit Himself As First Bagless Inventor? |
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Post# 408195   4/16/2019 at 14:04 (1,836 days old) by repairman (Woodridge, IL)   |   | |
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The FIRST bagless vacuum was invented by Rexair in 1936. So why is he taking credit for something that was created before he was born? The Model A even used a filter and no water. |
Post# 408197 , Reply# 1   4/16/2019 at 14:27 (1,836 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Even before the model A, the Rexair used the power of two cyclones, working at different speeds. The dirt container was in the back, the motor was upside down, and the airflow/dirt hit the side of the rotating separator and was thrown into the top of the dirt bucket. The fine dust went round and round by the separator until it too was thrown into the dirt bucket. They had an after motor filter, it sat on four "legs" and was the machine they SHOULD have made.
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Post# 408198 , Reply# 2   4/16/2019 at 14:28 (1,836 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB)   |   | |
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Post# 408226 , Reply# 3   4/16/2019 at 22:40 (1,835 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)   |   | |
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Post# 408242 , Reply# 4   4/17/2019 at 08:02 (1,835 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 408247 , Reply# 5   4/17/2019 at 08:31 (1,835 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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To be fair, he had never seen a Rainbow when he invented the Dyson. The inspiration for the cyclone came from a saw mill, which uses a high efficiency cyclone to separate sawdust from the airflow so they can use the saw dust again. The cyclone is also used in industry for powder coating paint rooms. The overspray goes through the blowers and up to the huge Vulcan's ice cream cone on the roof of the building.
I was just explaining that to my good friend Greg Palmer last night. Those cyclones work correctly because the flow of air into the cyclone is constant. In a vacuum cleaner, the flow of air is always changing (using the crevice tool as opposed to vacuuming bare floors), making the high efficiency cyclone work more or (in many times) less effectively as different attachments are used. |
Post# 408264 , Reply# 6   4/17/2019 at 16:32 (1,834 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)   |   | |
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Actually it was James Kirby that had the original Idea of a bag less or water trap vacuum even before Rainbow. James Kirby decided it would be to much hassle for the consumer to want to deal with it. |
Post# 408374 , Reply# 7   4/20/2019 at 18:19 (1,831 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Iec may have used it before Kirby. Howard Hughes had them cleaning commercial airplanes. I'm not positive I believe it was prior to WW2 they just started a year or two before then went into production for military. It could have been Kirby but cyclone technology has been around for a long time. I'd imagine that cyclone could be traced back millenniums.
It a great technology. Les |
Post# 408459 , Reply# 8   4/22/2019 at 15:48 (1,829 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa)   |   | |
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Post# 408471 , Reply# 9   4/22/2019 at 19:30 (1,829 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 408498 , Reply# 10   4/22/2019 at 23:37 (1,829 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)   |   | |
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Post# 408569 , Reply# 11   4/24/2019 at 00:46 (1,828 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 408624 , Reply# 12   4/25/2019 at 10:18 (1,827 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB)   |   | |
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There are many Bagless cleaner or one that use cyclonic action , Compact Tristar and Filter Queen and of course Rexair Rainbow and of course Fantom .I Think hes just tooting his own horn to be honest i sold Dyson at walmart most of em felt cheap plastic over price and fell apart after a short time il stick to my heavy Compact thank you .Dyson = Die soon lol
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Post# 408657 , Reply# 14   4/25/2019 at 22:48 (1,826 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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It says nowhere he invented cyclone vacuum technology. I'm versed on a fair number of his patents. A007kirbyman told me a small portion of his patents. He revolutionized alot of industries people aren't aware of. I'd say at least 4 or 5 industries not businesses industries still practice and use his patterns.
If you are trying to impress on how much of a genius Kirby was just stop. If you want to be impressed let bill just post some of his research. He has done alot and I mean maybe more than anyone in the world. He posts on this board. Spare the rest as Kirby needs no explanation unless you truly want a a few thousand pages from the expert in the area. Feel free to chime in bill but maybe you shouldn't I understand the magnitude of the research but I'm not sure King Kong his family all on steroids could quantify as a comparable visual simile. He didn't invent cyclone vaccuum technology. He just revolutionized the world more than any man not named Hawking or Eistein in the last 200 years. Les |
Post# 408678 , Reply# 15   4/26/2019 at 10:40 (1,826 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)   |   | |
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Well excuse me for chiming in on the discussion. |
Post# 408693 , Reply# 17   4/26/2019 at 18:31 (1,825 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 408698 , Reply# 18   4/26/2019 at 19:12 (1,825 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)   |   | |
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Post# 408700 , Reply# 19   4/26/2019 at 20:59 (1,825 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)   |   | |
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Thank you. |
Post# 408723 , Reply# 20   4/26/2019 at 23:23 (1,825 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 408731 , Reply# 21   4/27/2019 at 01:05 (1,825 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)   |   | |
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So I am reporting them as such. You have no right to tell others when, what, and how to post. |
Post# 408736 , Reply# 22   4/27/2019 at 01:35 (1,825 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB)   |   | |
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