Thread Number: 38353
/ Tag: 80s/90s Vacuum Cleaners
Nice challenge Kirby G5 |
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Post# 408136 , Reply# 1   4/15/2019 at 14:42 (1,829 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 408138 , Reply# 2   4/15/2019 at 16:13 (1,829 days old) by scudo (uk)   |   | |
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....."SOS scrub pads"....... That will be Brillo pads in the UK, I have used them on various projects over the years. |
Post# 408139 , Reply# 3   4/15/2019 at 16:24 (1,829 days old) by kirbyklekter (Concord,Ca.)   |   | |
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Was the machine partially submerged for a while,like a flooded basement? How do you think the transmission will be, I guess it is sealed up pretty good against water seeping in. |
Post# 408150 , Reply# 5   4/15/2019 at 21:08 (1,829 days old) by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)   |   | |
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A flooded garden shed, I reckon. I wouldn't count on the transmission being totally free of water intrusion. Water always finds a way in.
Me, personally, I wouldn't even bother trying to remove all that corrosion by hand. Much easier with a wire brush wheel on a drill, and a smaller one on a dremel for the hard to reach areas. |
Post# 408151 , Reply# 6   4/15/2019 at 21:08 (1,829 days old) by rivstg1 (colorado springs)   |   | |
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Post# 408161 , Reply# 7   4/15/2019 at 21:44 (1,829 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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With brillo pads I wouldn't say a labor of love once you start in with brillo pads it cleans up quite easily. G series aluminum is easier to clean. A dirty g series are alot easier to clean than pre g series vacuums.
Like I said carbon brushes and if you go to Amazon or eBay they have an led light for a few bucks looks pretty cool. Les |
Post# 408164 , Reply# 8   4/15/2019 at 21:48 (1,829 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 408221 , Reply# 10   4/16/2019 at 22:23 (1,828 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 408223 , Reply# 11   4/16/2019 at 22:36 (1,828 days old) by broomvac (N/A)   |   | |
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Kirby transmissions are not at all water tight. The half of the housing which faces toward the N/D pedal has several large openings for the clutch engagement arm to make contact with the clutches, for example.
That said, I don't foresee much inside the transmission being affected by water. The rear axle could rust (it is steel, unlike the transmission housing halves, which are aluminum), but it is external to the transmission and separately replaceable. Water could have intruded into the needle bearing which supports the transmission input shaft and spoil its grease, but that bearing is obviously up at the top of the transmission. The vacuum would have to be sitting in inches of water in order for it to be affected. |
Post# 408245 , Reply# 13   4/17/2019 at 08:28 (1,827 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)   |   | |
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I have a G5 that was almost that bad when I got it. Barkeeper's Friend, a very mildly abrasive scouring powder, made quick work of the oxidation without adding extra scratches. Automotive rubbing compound (the reddish stuff), followed by Mother's aluminum polish and a coat of car wax to seal the metal brought it back to a satin sheen, not quite mirrorlike, but very nice. It's been a few years since I did it and it could use a follow-up polishing. What I did was all by hand but I now have a Mother's Power Ball polisher for my drill, so I'll use that whenever I decide to give it another go and see if I can't bring out an even better shine.
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Post# 408292 , Reply# 15   4/19/2019 at 02:23 (1,826 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)   |   | |
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Replace the brushes now while you have it open, so you don't have to do it again later on. That's what Les is trying to say.
Because as you seen with this Kirby, you never know what a vacuum has been put through by the previous owner, and more often than not (at least in the USA) vacuums are run into the ground and then some before they are donated or trashed. Better to replace everything now while it is all laid out than to keep opening it up repeatedly every few months (you can actually strip out the threads in the screw posts on plastic bodied vacuums by unscrewing the screws too often). It's just like when you buy a used car, you replace every high-wear rubber part (tires, hoses, belts, wipers, door seals) before you drive it, because good chance the previous owner didn't do it and they are pretty worn by the time they sell it off. You wouldn't want a radiator hose to blow or a belt to snap when you're going down the freeway doing 75/80, that would be a pretty bad time! Same with a vacuum, you don't want to do all this hard polishing work and all the time of taking it apart and cleaning rust off, and then have the motor die just a few months from now. I try to get my vacuums to factory-fresh condition when I clean mine up, and replace anything that looks significantly worn. The carbon brushes get replaced along with the armature getting polished to remove carbon buildup. It helps get the motor's torque back and make the motor perform a little stronger, especially if the vacuum was severely abused. Running a worn vacuum motor will further wear it and eventually irreparably damage it, if not burn it up. I too have a Kirby G5 that's been in a worse state that I hope to get repaired this summer. It looks worse than it is, a lot of it is just dirt. |
Post# 408302 , Reply# 17   4/19/2019 at 15:48 (1,825 days old) by Hmc1981 (St. Augustine, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 408303 , Reply# 18   4/19/2019 at 16:35 (1,825 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)   |   | |
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Post# 408324 , Reply# 20   4/20/2019 at 00:16 (1,825 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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My first Kirby was a g4. I took apart and had no idea what was wrong. It just grinded and sounded bad. The carbon brushes we're gone. I recently got a model c Kirby. It's carbon brushes we're gone. Looking at the vacuum I doubt they changed them. Just for piece of mind changing them while it's easily to access could save huge problems.
You said you didn't turn vacuum on yet. You want to make sure everything is done right. This would be one thing to check. I have 3 sentrias and 2 g6s and I ordered carbon brushes for all 5. I'm opening them up just like you and it will help vacuum run in peak condition. Sorry to be persistent just don't want you to finish vacuum and have to test apart put carbon brushes on. Les |
Post# 408406 , Reply# 22   4/21/2019 at 17:37 (1,823 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 408472 , Reply# 24   4/22/2019 at 19:33 (1,822 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 408524 , Reply# 25   4/23/2019 at 11:36 (1,821 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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