Thread Number: 37706
/ Tag: 50s/60s/70s Vacuum Cleaners
I was robbed, robbed I tell you |
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Post# 402111 , Reply# 1   12/7/2018 at 10:24 (1,960 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.)   |   | |
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how do you figure you were "robbed"? You put in the maximum you were willing to pay, and someone outbid you. THAT happens sometimes. |
Post# 402113 , Reply# 2   12/7/2018 at 10:26 (1,960 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)   |   | |
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Post# 402114 , Reply# 3   12/7/2018 at 10:33 (1,960 days old) by bnsd60m9200 (Akron OH)   |   | |
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Post# 402118 , Reply# 4   12/7/2018 at 11:53 (1,960 days old) by completenutt (West Hollywood, California)   |   | |
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Post# 402119 , Reply# 5   12/7/2018 at 11:54 (1,960 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)   |   | |
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Post# 402122 , Reply# 7   12/7/2018 at 12:57 (1,960 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 402133 , Reply# 9   12/7/2018 at 14:48 (1,960 days old) by JustJunque (Western MA)   |   | |
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Post# 402134 , Reply# 10   12/7/2018 at 15:12 (1,960 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)   |   | |
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eBay is known to have email delays in their notifications of being outbid, or they are never sent at all. What happened was someone did a bid snipe, either manually or automatically with a program/app. There's nothing you can do about it, it's the nature of bidding at auction. If you want it immediately, look for buy-it-now listings. Just keep hunting. Also save a search for the vacuum you want so you are notified by eMail when one is posted. That's how I got my Hoover Z700.
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Post# 402135 , Reply# 11   12/7/2018 at 15:17 (1,960 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)   |   | |
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All kinds of Hoover Portables here cheaper than what you bid - not in green, if that was the color you were specifically looking for - or if you just wanted any color.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Hoover-... https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Hoover-... https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Hoover-... https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Hoover-... https://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-hoover-... |
Post# 402137 , Reply# 12   12/7/2018 at 15:59 (1,960 days old) by bnsd60m9200 (Akron OH)   |   | |
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if you want help , consider dropping the bitter attitude. insulting people who are trying to help out will get you nowhere quick.
that is one of the last portables made, and they were made in lower numbers. john long would be a best bet, but scoffing someone (huskyvacs) offering alternatives is childish. its a vacuum. youll find one you want eventually. if you want a less stressful aquisition of vacuums, ebay is not the place for you to aquire things. try picking local vacuum shops, estate sales or craigslist. travel to places where stuff is helps too. dont limit yourself just to city limits. |
Post# 402145 , Reply# 13   12/7/2018 at 19:06 (1,960 days old) by Rowdy141 (United Kingdom)   |   | |
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eBay is not the manual marketplace it once was.
Automated Bidding Apps will place a buyer's bid on their behalf, in the last one or two seconds of an auction. In the past 'snipers' had to sit there monitoring an auction in real-time, hoping they had bid enough in the one or two bids they could manage in quick succession. If not, they raised the price for you, and moved-on. But now, these Apps do the work for them. This hides their interest, leaves you no opportunity to counter-bid, and wins the item for them, often at a lower price because you don't learn of their interest in the same item until its too late. The only way to beat this is to bid a very high amount and expect to pay a high price for the item, or be prepared to lose it and try for another. Sounds as though this may have happened in this instance. I have thought for many years that eBay's system should extend an auction's expiry-time, by say 15 minutes, when a higher bid is made in the closing minutes/seconds, to give everyone an opportunity to respond, either by App, or in-person. This would ensure the best possible price for the Seller, increased commission for eBay, and a happier bunch of Buyers. A physical Auction House, with Auctioneer, would never dismiss further bids while two or more parties were competing. That's eBay for you. This post was last edited 12/07/2018 at 19:31 |
Post# 402162 , Reply# 16   12/8/2018 at 04:38 (1,959 days old) by Rowdy141 (United Kingdom)   |   | |
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Similar problems with SOME Charity Shops here in the UK.
Directors on £100,000+ per annum. Staff all unpaid volunteers. Staff cherry-pick from donations. Good stuff goes up on eBay, or to shops in more-affluent areas, not in the window. Poorly-performing shops set ridiculously high prices, sometimes more than New, to achieve 'Sales Targets'. Its a Business. Electrical items such as vacuums have to be safety (PAT) tested before they can go on sale. This costs the business money and creates storage problems while they're awaiting testing, so they turn-away donations. |
Post# 402169 , Reply# 17   12/8/2018 at 08:39 (1,959 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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I learned about auction sniping years ago, when a vacuum club member with very deep pockets used to snipe all the auctions he wanted. He used a service I believe was called "bid sniper", he would put in the auction number and a high bid of like $1000 to be placed at the last 3 seconds automatically. This cost him twenty five cents for the service.
I'm sure it bit him in the behind several times, when TWO people used the bid sniper. $50 vac with no bids. "MP" robobids $950. "JL" robobids $1000. Both think they'll get the machine for a reasonable amount since no one else has expressed "interest' by bidding. Last seconds come, and the $50 vac is now $960 with the winning bid going to "JL" who trumped the $950 bid with his $1000 bid. All in the last 3 seconds. Surprise for the seller. Surprise for "MP" who thought he'd win. And real surprise for "JL" who now is paying dearly for a $50 cleaner he wanted so badly. |
Post# 402227 , Reply# 18   12/9/2018 at 13:04 (1,958 days old) by Toddk13 (Milwaukee, WI)   |   | |
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Auctions can be disasters like Tom points out. Never go above your maximum practical limit when using auction assistant programs. Unless it’s “one of one”, you can probably find it again. |
Post# 402233 , Reply# 19   12/9/2018 at 14:19 (1,958 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)   |   | |
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I've never bought an entire vacuum on eBay, though I have bought a power nozzle. The bulk and weight of a vacuum makes shipping tend to be high.
For other things that I DO buy on eBay, I never, ever place a bid until the auction is about to close. All that does in a lot of cases, is drive up the cost if someone else starts bidding. I just bid the maximum I want to pay, at the end of the auction. If there have already been a few bids or the price is getting higher than I'd like, I don't usually bid unless I really want it, and I usually still lose. It's interesting how sometimes an item will get a lot of bids and go high, yet a while later, a same or similar item gets relisted and gets only one or no bids. I don't usually see vintage vacuums at thrift stores here either. I did buy a Hoover Slimline once at a thrift store, and they had a Portable another time, but it was missing the handle. In fact, I also saw a mint Hoover Convertible Elite in green there too. Unfortunately since they moved, they don't seem to get any good stuff in anymore, or as much either. Habitat used to get old Convertibles and others in but rarely anymore do they get anything older than an Elite or Bissell bagless. I've seen a few old Kenmore canisters, but incomplete. At Goodwill they sometimes get newer Electrolux or Kirbys, but no vacuums more than 20 years old. I have seen a few nice PowerMaxs. Maybe you'll have to go outside your area to find better stuff. |
Post# 402269 , Reply# 20   12/10/2018 at 10:12 (1,957 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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Last year I tried to bid on a red Panasonic MC-V7398 because I have been after that model for like years now. Someone already bid on it so I waited for like the last minute to bid on it, sure enough that same person out bid me for like the finals seconds there was left on the auction. As much as I was frustrated with myself, I quickly let it go because I knew it was not the end of the world and that I would find another one again someday.
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Post# 402313 , Reply# 22   12/10/2018 at 18:49 (1,957 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)   |   | |
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I've noticed similar with Goodwill in the housewares section lately. I do wonder though if the good stuff sells quickly after it goes out. I typically go once a week on Friday. Sometimes if I'm in town and want to kill time I might make a Saturday stop. Typically I come out empty handed.
One thing about them is whenever they ask if I want to round my purchase up to donate change, I always seem to say yes. So a small purchase quickly becomes more after tax and rounding up. Our St. Vincent de Paul store closed a few years back, it was small and I didn't go to it much because it was rarely open. They did get some neat things when I did go. Salvation Army here is almost not worth going to anymore. About 15 or so years ago it was always busy and getting in new stuff constantly. You could hardly move around it was so packed and crowded. But they remodeled about 10 years ago and must have gotten more selective about merchandise or something because I rarely see anything good anymore. I'll go once every few months and usually the same old stuff, and most is random dishes or silverware, some old furniture, or cheap small appliances. It's never busy either. Maybe they're putting all the good stuff somewhere else or nobody donates. |
Post# 402333 , Reply# 24   12/10/2018 at 20:26 (1,957 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)   |   | |
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The prices at Goodwill are set by the employees working in the back room that put the prices on stuff. Not by Goodwill. There are several large rolls of price labels on spools at a workbench of values 0.99 to 29.99 and it is up to you to determine what you think an item should be worth. There are people that don't know anything about junk and will price coffee mugs at 2.99, then people that do know could come in a month later and price them at 0.99.
There is a rough guide that states DVD's and VCR's be priced at $19.99, vacuums at $29.99 and so on. But outside of that it is whoever holds the price stickers that day that decides the values. Don't blame Goodwill, blame the employees that work there that have no education on the value of things. Also, go on 50% off days which is every other saturday. |
Post# 402342 , Reply# 25   12/10/2018 at 21:05 (1,957 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)   |   | |
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I was just making an observation. If you seem to have an insight to the pricing metrics that Goodwill uses, then more power to ya. |