Thread Number: 37579
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Post# 400736 , Reply# 1   11/12/2018 at 19:25 (1,963 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB)   |   | |
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What ya need is a metal Tristar CXL or Filter Queen good power head large bag and long hsoe perfect for floor or rugs powerful to easy to maneuver around and lots of attachments too .Eitehr of those can be bought on ebay in good condition and fora small fee metal construction means it will lasta life time long hsoe easy reach good floor tool and power head .Canister whit floor tool and power head would bea good choice in my books
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Post# 400739 , Reply# 2   11/12/2018 at 19:48 (1,963 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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I’d go for the Aerus Lux Commercial upright or the Sanitaire Commercial SC9180b (see link below). Both are made for commercial environments with heavy gauge power cords and both have a brush roll shut-off option to clean all your bare floors. These vacs are made with a little more durability so that they can handle the dirt tracked in by customers coming in from the outside with sand, gravel and street dirt on their shoes. These may be better than vacs designed for the domestic market.
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Post# 400748 , Reply# 3   11/12/2018 at 21:03 (1,963 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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I'm not an expert but I have done a lot of research. The sanitairre is solid considered 2nd behind the proteam vacuum. It's top rated on Amazon and quite a few other sites. I have looked for one on classified market but almost impossible. I'm posting link to Amazon.
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Post# 400750 , Reply# 4   11/12/2018 at 22:04 (1,963 days old) by holeefuk (Chai-nar qualitee...anything more = ip theft)   |   | |
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$300 commercial sebo felix variant much robust at heavy use, however, bag capacity limit downfall
Fix neck strong compared twistable neck. foot pedal PN release, flex not break if abuse drop. Nonvariable board and switch invincible cord robust as 220v industry equipment can upgrade most premium feature after i have mexico sanitaire older than me, still work and look brand new except black lung bag. CLICK HERE TO GO TO holeefuk's LINK
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Post# 400755 , Reply# 5   11/13/2018 at 01:21 (1,963 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )   |   | |
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The Felix is by far toughest vacuum you listed.
I think you should consider a SEBO mechanical it's an extremely tough machine designed for day-to-day use and abuse. www.sebo.us/upright-vacuu... Here's a link to Windsor's website. SEBO's commercial division. windsorvacuums.com/index.php... Have you also considered an NSS M1 ? Hope that helps. CLICK HERE TO GO TO vacuumdevil's LINK |
Post# 400758 , Reply# 6   11/13/2018 at 06:35 (1,963 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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But I don’t think you can turn off the brushroll with the Sebo Mechanical Upright. Cleaning bare floors is not that efficient if you can’t shut off the spinning brush roll - you get a lot of dirt scattering. In this case, there are lots of bare flooring to clean. I think he’d be better off with an upright that allows you to shut off the brush roll. It seems to be a feature lacking in all Sebo/Windsor uprights (besides the Felix), as far as I know.
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Post# 400759 , Reply# 7   11/13/2018 at 06:54 (1,962 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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for the bare floors and up high cleaning the NSS Pig would be the best choice.There is also a powernozzle of the Pig that has a powernozzle connector for the NSS powernozzle if there are rugs or carpets. |
Post# 400771 , Reply# 8   11/13/2018 at 15:00 (1,962 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )   |   | |
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Post# 400772 , Reply# 9   11/13/2018 at 15:01 (1,962 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )   |   | |
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Post# 400779 , Reply# 12   11/13/2018 at 17:43 (1,962 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Indeed Derek....try out the Nacecare/Numatic canister with the Sebo power nozzle. You’ll get a very flexible but durable cleaning machine that has a long-standing reputation in British commercial environments. And you can shut off the brush roll when needed, or change over to a nice wide bare floor nozzle for all those hard floors that need cleaning. Numatic even has an optional extra long hose to help you clean out the car interiors in the show room!
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Post# 400781 , Reply# 13   11/13/2018 at 18:26 (1,962 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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Post# 400820 , Reply# 16   11/14/2018 at 15:07 (1,961 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 400831 , Reply# 17   11/14/2018 at 20:29 (1,961 days old) by holeefuk (Chai-nar qualitee...anything more = ip theft)   |   | |
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i saw cv300 motor under the hood identical to premium sebo felix - Ametek Italian
charge high for premium feature german entry model have modest filter, lifetime belt, hall sensors, handle switch, adjustable PN, 40feet cord more than i can afford pal CLICK HERE TO GO TO holeefuk's LINK |
Post# 400926 , Reply# 18   11/15/2018 at 22:45 (1,960 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)   |   | |
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The Filter Queen, Sebo Felix/Windsor Axcess, and Nacecare all sound like good options. The NSS is another interesting option.
The Filter Queen option seems a little strange, but I think it could work out well. I don't have issues with them losing airflow very quickly with genuine filter cones, and the tank holds a ton of dirt. Buying a Miele for a commercial environment would be stupid. They're great machines for home use, but they're not durable enough for the environment you'd be using it in and the consumables (bags, filters, etc) are prohibitively expensive for commercial use. |
Post# 400927 , Reply# 19   11/15/2018 at 22:49 (1,960 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)   |   | |
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Also, it sounds like your vacuum shop guy just had a bad experience with Sebo so he's trying to push you towards other brands. The Sebo Mechanical seems better than the Felix if you need a larger bag capacity.
Like what has already been stated, there's no need to be able to turn off the brushroll. Uprights with the brushroll turned off often give unacceptable cleaning results anyways, so you'll either want something with a dedicated hard floor tool or something with a rotating brush even on hard floors. They'll clean better with the brush spinning than without. |
Post# 400946 , Reply# 20   11/16/2018 at 06:39 (1,960 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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But if those bare floors are washed with soap at some point, and maybe even buffed with a wax of some sort, won’t the residue end up on the vacuum’s brush roll and then transfer to whatever carpet it is used on? Bare floors end up with all sorts of sticky stuff created by wet material drying on it....that can’t be good for the bristles on the brush roll, no? There must be some good reason that many vacuums offer an easy way to shut off the brush roll for bare floor cleaning.
In my opinion, an upright is not a practical cleaner if you have lots of bare flooring to clean. And if the carpeting in this showroom is very low pile, a good suction only canister cleaner should work well on the carpeted surfaces, too. There is a very innovative floor brush out there now called the “Sidewinder” that seems like a great idea for commercial environments - you swipe the brush from side to side instead of back and forth...allowing the user to clean large swaths of bare flooring more easily. |
Post# 400983 , Reply# 21   11/17/2018 at 00:17 (1,959 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )   |   | |
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@photowizd looks like you answered your own question about that Karcher CV300.
It's got less features therefore it's less expensive to make. Also you have a backpack vacuum right? so maybe the backpack vacuum for bare floors and get a dedicated upright for carpets? They also make maid carts that fit backpack vacuums in them ,if you want it to be on wheels. Here is one of my favorite upright commercial Vacuums right now .
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Post# 400990 , Reply# 22   11/17/2018 at 02:03 (1,959 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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Maid services in my area use Meile vacuums and are quite pleased with them and they work well for the maids.Their cost isn't as high as you would think. |
Post# 401580 , Reply# 23   11/28/2018 at 13:03 (1,947 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )   |   | |
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Post# 401766 , Reply# 26   12/1/2018 at 19:24 (1,944 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )   |   | |
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Post# 401786 , Reply# 27   12/2/2018 at 03:32 (1,944 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 401812 , Reply# 29   12/2/2018 at 20:44 (1,943 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )   |   | |
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@KirbyClassicIII
Those are all super cool vacuums. Generally speaking dir air for commercial use is a no-go these days. The added cost of fans and belts are unnecessary .The industry has reflected this. Also it appears we can no longer order Royal metal uprights from TTI. I've seen the generation series used commercially it tends to be a rather expensive proposition. |
Post# 401819 , Reply# 30   12/2/2018 at 22:03 (1,943 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Alex,
Especially not those metal Royal uprights with the shake-out bags (the ones without a "Z" in their model nomenclatures). When I watched this video, you explained that the shake-out bag had been outlawed in a few states. ~Ben This post was last edited 12/02/2018 at 22:40 |
Post# 401835 , Reply# 32   12/3/2018 at 10:49 (1,942 days old) by royalfan (Chicago)   |   | |
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Post# 401836 , Reply# 33   12/3/2018 at 11:00 (1,942 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )   |   | |
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@tolivac I haven't seen one direct air commercial sanitaire out in the field im my travels. The only Sanitaires I've seen have been bypass coming on lately. They've really lost most of their commercial market share. Nilfisk-advance,Karcher,Bissell&commercial Hoover have taken the place for sure. I think it was a different story 15 years ago they definitely were pretty popular. I'm included a link to my Instagram where I've documented my travels and what I've seen.
@KirbyClassicIII I can't have a custom video for everybody. The point of that video is the show the shortcomings of Dirty air vacuums . The dump bag was besides the point. TTI Royal does make good HEPA bags. Another example of the point I was trying to make. CLICK HERE TO GO TO vacuumdevil's LINK |
Post# 401892 , Reply# 34   12/4/2018 at 00:12 (1,942 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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The Sanitaires are VERY common out here.ProTeam uprights are also common here.At one restaurant I frequently eat at--they have NO vacuum at all-just a mop and a broom.The place has all hard floors. |
Post# 401971 , Reply# 37   12/4/2018 at 22:43 (1,941 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )   |   | |
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@tolivac I definitely didn't sell them that vacuum. But it came in so I made a video .
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Post# 401989 , Reply# 39   12/5/2018 at 11:02 (1,940 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )   |   | |
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@tolivac Windsor dealers don't really exist. bigger companies usually work directly with manufacturers and buy wholesale with service contracts.
This is how most commercial vacuums are sold. I think we are all well aware of Karcher/Windsor/Sebo being the same . Never seen a main body break, could you email me pictures of what you have seen ? I am most definitely interested in what you have seen . |
Post# 401995 , Reply# 40   12/5/2018 at 12:36 (1,940 days old) by Holeefuk (Chai-nar qualitee...anything more = ip theft)   |   | |
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If you broke the "main nozzle" on a kärcher, Felix, Windsor
It is part# 7078 air duct in the schematic owners manual. I believe it is a thicker and fiber reinforced plastic compared to the power nozzle plastic. I seen a video of someone kicking and smashing the Felix like a 🎸 and it was designed to give and let go. The upright latch mechanism didn't even break. Sebo has definitely considered the possibility and attempted to do something about it. Costs $35 to replace from sebo direct. The fixed neck on the et1 is about $25 is you didn't want to pay 50 for the swivel. Costs a little more than a pack of bags.
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Post# 401998 , Reply# 41   12/5/2018 at 12:50 (1,940 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )   |   | |
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Post# 402001 , Reply# 42   12/5/2018 at 13:07 (1,940 days old) by Holeefuk (Chai-nar qualitee...anything more = ip theft)   |   | |
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I did not break airduct only have a picture of it expose for reference of strength and difference from residential.
I consider to replace this part because it not the same compared Felix premium variable speed when I asked sebo America. I make workaround without buying part. This part very strong not likely to break unless thrown out a window |