Thread Number: 37557  /  Tag: 50s/60s/70s Vacuum Cleaners
Finalized D80 fill tube/replaceable bag setup...
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Post# 400559   11/8/2018 at 13:36 (1,966 days old) by Hmc1981 (St. Augustine, Florida)        

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I’ve been working on this for a while, and it’s finally complete. I’ve installed a fill tube with special fittings to create a good seal inside the emtor, and today I picked up from the seamstress the cloth bag with a zipper installed so I can easily access and replace the bag. Did my test with an older G3 bag, will install something much better once i fill it up a bit. Here’s some pics!

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Post# 400561 , Reply# 1   11/8/2018 at 13:41 (1,966 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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Sweet. Definitely creative and I'm sure it works like a charm.

Post# 400574 , Reply# 2   11/8/2018 at 17:41 (1,966 days old) by hmc1981 (St. Augustine, Florida)        
Thank you!

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It’s taken me quite a while to find the right fittings that will fit both the emtor opening and fill tube (with good seal). Once I had that figured out, I had the bag modified. A note to the more hardcore D80 folks... I have a fully original NOS D80 bag, and my fill tube can be removed to restore the machine to original.

I just wanted to be able to use the thing as a daily driver and not have to do a F&G conversion...I hate how the emtor is removed for this, as well as not having a correct cloth bag. I’ve tried a LOT of tricks and many worked well, but being able to use HEPA bags and replace them as easily as bagged machines was something I really wanted to happen. Never have to worry about a filthy shake out bag, get to keep the machine fully assembled, i love it!


Post# 400576 , Reply# 3   11/8/2018 at 18:54 (1,966 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Hey

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Not bad on the setup. I'd say it's f@g meets royal upright adaptor. The setup I made is harder to make. Yours seems good too. My setup I use the emptor. It pics up the heavy items and stay in emtor. I believe emtor gives more pressure not sending all the air through the tube. I could be wrong since a Kirby with no bag has least amount or restriction. If I were to guess more air flow the better capping off causes some resistance. I must say this is a cheap effective solution. The zippers and sewing is not much. The bags are expensive. I commend you on a very cost effective solution. There is always more than one way to skin a cat no pun intended.
Les


Post# 400578 , Reply# 4   11/8/2018 at 18:55 (1,966 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
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Not bad on the setup. I'd say it's f@g meets royal upright adaptor. The setup I made is harder to make. Yours seems good too. My setup I use the emptor. It pics up the heavy items and stay in emtor. I believe emtor gives more pressure not sending all the air through the tube. I could be wrong since a Kirby with no bag has least amount or restriction. If I were to guess more air flow the better capping off causes some resistance. I must say this is a cheap effective solution. The zippers and sewing is not much. The bags are expensive. I commend you on a very cost effective solution. There is always more than one way to skin a cat no pun intended.
Les


Post# 400620 , Reply# 5   11/9/2018 at 21:23 (1,965 days old) by hmc1981 (St. Augustine, Florida)        
Les...

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Give me a couple of days and I’ll send you a schematic of what I did. I’m really happy with how it all came out. I don’t have any tools to precisely measure things, but general tests with throwing dust under area rugs, etc, I see zero difference in performance. Being the weirdo in the hardware store examining o-rings and gaskets seemed to have paid off, lol.

Post# 400621 , Reply# 6   11/9/2018 at 21:24 (1,965 days old) by Rivstg1 (colorado springs)        
cool

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we look forward to seeing it! I may wanna do that procedure as well to my old Kirby's

Post# 400640 , Reply# 7   11/10/2018 at 17:45 (1,964 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )        

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Nice job!
I would not use the "G3 bags " they let to much dust out .
Try the HEPA or the" MICRON MAGIC "



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Post# 400642 , Reply# 8   11/10/2018 at 18:32 (1,964 days old) by hmc1981 (St. Augustine, Florida)        
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I just installed a modern style replacement bag. I used the G3 bag as a test just to see how easily it’s installed/removed, etc etc etc.

It works so much better with the newest style Micron Magic bags.

I know how silly it sounds, but I’ve wanted for so long to be able to use my shake out bag machines with replaceable bags - AND avoid the F&G conversion... I just don’t like how that conversion looks, I like having the emtor in place. I also wanted to avoid doing anything to the machine that couldn’t be reversed...or couldn’t be reversed without damage... this setup creates a perfectly tight seal, and allows me to use the vacuum just like my other bagged vacs, it’s also entirely removable. A side note: I have original, unused shake out bags on the side if I feel like being entirely original. The only iffy modification is having the zipper installed, but that’s why I have extra shake-outs...



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