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Thread Number: 37411
/ Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
Hoover Discontinuing the Venerable Self-Propelled Windtunnel |
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| Post# 399236 10/6/2018 at 22:30 (2,296 days old) by speedqueen (Harrison Twp MI) | ||
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The dealer where I work part time says ESSCO(the general supplier) is out and won't have any more in as Hoover is giving it the axe. End of an era, if you ask me, one of the last pre-TTI cleaners they still offered, one of the few cleaners of good quality, too. | ||
| Post# 399238 , Reply# 1 10/6/2018 at 23:02 (2,296 days old) by Gj3476 (Prosper,TX) | ||
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| Post# 399240 , Reply# 2 10/6/2018 at 23:23 (2,296 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell ) | ||
thank you TTI | ||
| Post# 399242 , Reply# 3 10/6/2018 at 23:41 (2,296 days old) by Gj3476 (Prosper,TX) | ||
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| Post# 399246 , Reply# 4 10/7/2018 at 02:33 (2,296 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, IN) | ||
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| Post# 399249 , Reply# 5 10/7/2018 at 06:37 (2,296 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA) | ||
That's too bad, while I don't think the newest ones really compared quality-wise, and I thought they were loud, I still liked them. Yes, definitely an end of an era and the lineage of Hoover's SP machines. So this leaves Hoover with, like one or maybe NO bagged uprights? That really comes as no surprise.
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| Post# 399256 , Reply# 6 10/7/2018 at 10:07 (2,295 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell ) | ||
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from my point of view as a vacuum tech . | ||
| Post# 399262 , Reply# 7 10/7/2018 at 14:11 (2,295 days old) by henrydreyfuss (Ohio) | ||
Can't compete feature-wise?
It had every feature you'd expect in a modern upright, sans lifetime belts. They also featured exceptional carpet cleaning performance, most modern clean-air machines can't touch.
That's a shame.. I still like seeing affordable bagged machines in stores. They had common problems with plastic parts of their self-propelled mechanism breaking (replaced a lot of idler pulleys and actuator arms back in the day), but if taken care of, they cleaned great and lasted a long time. I do wish they were quieter, and the belts lasted longer. TTI should have just addressed a couple issues on it, and released a 2.0 model. | ||
| Post# 399269 , Reply# 8 10/7/2018 at 15:39 (2,295 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell ) | ||
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nope
@henrydreyfuss
No sealed HEPA. No easy change bag . No life time belt Until recently no sealed bearings in the brush roller and self-propelled. No telescoping wand. No Center feed section Edge cleaning. No easy access tools you have to bend over and assemble them. Not bare floor friendly that's the big one ! Even though you can shut the brush roller off it will scratch the floor. Bare floor switch is not on the handle. It weighs more then Miele u1 /s7 The hose is too short . you can't lift it by the handle without snapping the self propel. It's really loud. Hoover has other Vacuums in their lineup That superseded this vacuum in almost every way . That being said I have one of these in my collection because it came with the house. | ||
| Post# 399271 , Reply# 9 10/7/2018 at 16:01 (2,295 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA) | ||
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| Post# 399272 , Reply# 10 10/7/2018 at 16:30 (2,295 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
I loved the Hoover Ultra Self Propelled WindTunnel. I bought one for my aging parents on their anniversary because their single-floor condo had acres of deep-pile plush carpeting. It made life so much easier for my late father as he was in charge of vacuuming on Fridays. The self-propel mechanism worked very well for him, and the filtration layers in the vac were a great help for his allergies.
It was neat knowing it came from the original Hoover home in North Canton. We Canadians knew what it meant to use a high-quality American-made product. Those were the days....those little towns of North Canton and Bloomington proudly kept North American homes clean for many decades. End of an era. :-( | ||
| Post# 399289 , Reply# 11 10/7/2018 at 23:32 (2,295 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA) | ||
vacuumdevil...
Very few, if any, current Hoover machines meet all of the things you listed. It was a $200 machine, not a $500 Miele. In my opinion, the self propelled Windtunnel was one of the last half-decent Hoover machines. No easy change bag? Seriously, how difficult is it to pull the cardboard collar off the plastic tube? It doesn't get very much easier than that.
Also, there was no need to bend down and assemble the attachments. The hose is stored on the side of the machine and it's always ready for use. | ||
| Post# 399290 , Reply# 12 10/7/2018 at 23:51 (2,295 days old) by gregvacs28 (U.S.) | ||
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my "...0 bagged vacuums and 0 canister vacuums in their lineup"
it's depressing. I remember shopping Spirit canisters at Kmart and being happy. | ||
| Post# 399301 , Reply# 13 10/8/2018 at 10:33 (2,294 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
No great loss... | ||
| Post# 399307 , Reply# 14 10/8/2018 at 14:46 (2,294 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell ) | ||
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@myles_v
I have to bend over to use the hose . Most consumers struggle putting thst bag on believe it or not. Hoover has been out of the regular vacuum market for some time. The focus with the Hoover name is commercial, low end vacuum sales. I've been mean to do a review on one of these for a while maybe I'll dust off ,change the belt on mine out and make a video. @gregvacs28 look at this part of Hoover's website. www.hoovercommercial.com/... www.oreck.com... CLICK HERE TO GO TO vacuumdevil's LINK | ||
| Post# 399341 , Reply# 15 10/9/2018 at 09:22 (2,293 days old) by FantomLightning (Ohio) | ||
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I... Wonder if this machine may find its way into the Royal line up of machines like with the UR30075 and UR30085 based on the Tempo and non SP WT... | ||
| Post# 399346 , Reply# 16 10/9/2018 at 12:31 (2,293 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa) | ||
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| Post# 399354 , Reply# 17 10/9/2018 at 16:55 (2,293 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, IN) | ||
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Keep in mind that if we're talking about the new bag model one that was recently pulled, it's based on a 20 year old design. It will be loud, dusty, and clunky. It's part of the history.
But they actually did a study that Americans associate loudness with power. So just like a supercar, the louder it is the more powerful people think it is and will want to buy it. I can attest that the Windtunnel doesn't need any help advertising its power, but with that exhaust vent and the motor equipped, you will certainly feel like you're in a windtunnel! | ||
| Post# 399493 , Reply# 20 10/13/2018 at 21:26 (2,289 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.) | ||
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@fan-of-fans That is precisely my fear as well... :( | ||
| Post# 399504 , Reply# 22 10/13/2018 at 22:46 (2,289 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA) | ||
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I think the trend is going toward the rechargeable stick vacs like Dyson first came out with and now other makers are doing, and secondly the robotic vacuums. As for more traditional corded uprights, it seems to be the Shark style machines are what everyone is following. Even more traditional bagless tools on board machines are getting fewer in favor of these styles.
There may never be an end to big box vacuums, but this is the direction they are headed. They aren't reinventing themselves, they're just following the "leaders" of Dyson and Roomba because that's what people want and need. Unfortunately the only big box retailer where you can still get a decent bagged upright or canister vacuum just filed for bankruptcy. It may mean an end to that brand as well, not that anyone seems to care... Of course there's always Kirby, Aerus, Rainbow, Miele, Tacony, etc. But in many many towns all you have available is Walmart stuff. Which means the end of bagged machines and canisters is pretty much sealed. It is nice that Hoover still offers the Guardsman and Portapower in their commercial lineup, as well as some older machines repackaged. It seems they still put a lot into that line. | ||
| Post# 399549 , Reply# 26 10/14/2018 at 16:21 (2,288 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
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Engineered to fail...
Modern vacuum cleaners are engineered to fail in a number of ways, from the filters that nobody cleans to the circuit boards inevitably burn out, effectively functioning as self-destruct mechanisms. Now, they're making them cordless and no doubt sealing the battery compartments so users will be forced to throw them out when the batteries fail. The amazing thing is consumers are so damned gullible they not only fall for this shit, they actually fall all over themselves to buy the latest version of it.
This is why we're doomed as a species... | ||
| Post# 399688 , Reply# 27 10/17/2018 at 18:33 (2,285 days old) by ridgidwd0670 (se wood co ohio) | ||
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| Post# 399693 , Reply# 28 10/17/2018 at 19:38 (2,285 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA) | ||
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I'm pretty sure the Elites and Convertibles will never come back. Although, Hoover does still make the Guardsman Commercial, so the Convertible does still live on in a modified form.
I never heard much about the Quiet Pro. I assumed it was discontinued because it's not on their website that I can see. | ||
| Post# 399707 , Reply# 30 10/18/2018 at 02:07 (2,285 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, IN) | ||
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| Post# 399773 , Reply# 31 10/19/2018 at 19:21 (2,283 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest) | ||
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He was just used to starting his Mantis garden tiller. | ||
| Post# 400098 , Reply# 32 10/27/2018 at 15:59 (2,275 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA) | ||
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Who sold the Hoover Windtunnel SP? I used to see them in the trash here pretty often so someone must have. lol
I know Sears used to sell the latest blue one but when I went today they didn't have it on display so must have sold out. I seem to recall Walmart used to sell the older ones, like the hunter green or maroon. | ||
| Post# 400264 , Reply# 33 11/1/2018 at 11:38 (2,270 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell ) | ||
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| Post# 400326 , Reply# 35 11/3/2018 at 00:52 (2,269 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell ) | ||
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You guys inspired me to make a video on the subject. ㈳ | ||
| Post# 400402 , Reply# 36 11/4/2018 at 11:44 (2,267 days old) by royalfan (Chicago) | ||
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| Post# 458922 , Reply# 38 12/28/2022 at 23:40 (752 days old) by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
allanbmw
Are you still looking for that model? Because I'm sorry to say that it's quite rare. there's a blue version of it that is slightly more common, but that has been discontinued, too. Thankfully, Hoover did make a bagged white upright, although it's not a Tempo. Here it is:
hoover.com/products/complete-per... | ||
| Post# 458943 , Reply# 39 12/29/2022 at 12:50 (751 days old) by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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allanbmw
Oh yeah, I'm sorry to hear about your loss of your twin. I'm sure they are very happy up in heaven, and will be waiting for you, and your family there. Also, I hope your other daughter is doing well, and will still be happy even if you didn't manage to get that specific model of Hoover. I wish you the best,
-AmtrakSebo1997 | ||
| Post# 458949 , Reply# 40 12/29/2022 at 14:20 (751 days old) by wstonehockertv (North Carolina) | ||
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allanbmw I want to remind your daughter Scarlett that I'm also autistic and that I was also born premature (four weeks early according to my mom). I used to be part of the vacuum community for many years, but I am no longer part of it due to drama amongst the members. | ||
| Post# 458957 , Reply# 41 12/29/2022 at 19:18 (751 days old) by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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| Post# 459126 , Reply# 42 1/3/2023 at 08:55 (746 days old) by wstonehockertv (North Carolina) | ||
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amtraksebo1997 I was never a collector. | ||
| Post# 460202 , Reply# 43 2/10/2023 at 21:10 (708 days old) by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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| Post# 460216 , Reply# 44 2/11/2023 at 14:29 (707 days old) by wstonehockertv (North Carolina) | ||
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amtraksebo1997 Hoover is still offering good machines thanks to TTi. Hell of a lot better than Maytag that's for sure. | ||
| Post# 460807 , Reply# 45 2/28/2023 at 21:19 (690 days old) by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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While I can't speak on behalf of the quality of TTI Hoovers too much, because I haven't used that many TTI Hoovers, I can speak on behalf of some of Maytag's products. Mainly the bagged Hoover windtunnels. While the build quality isn't anything that rivals Sebo, the power and preformance are very solid I think.
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| Post# 460812 , Reply# 46 2/28/2023 at 23:51 (690 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
The TTI Windtunnels were definitely much better than Maytag's. I agree with William on this. Hoover in my opinion went downhill after Maytag acquired Chicago Pacific which owned Hoover. And Hoover I think bounced back after they were acquired by TTI. I would gladly take a TTI Windtunnel over a Maytag Windtunnel.
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| Post# 473854 , Reply# 47 10/26/2024 at 15:20 by wstonehockertv (North Carolina) | ||
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Not to worry y'all, at least the used market will have plenty of these machines. | ||
| Post# 473879 , Reply# 48 10/27/2024 at 18:01 by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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| Post# 473881 , Reply# 49 10/28/2024 at 05:38 by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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| Post# 473905 , Reply# 50 10/29/2024 at 13:10 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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The Windtunnel design in my opinion is a gimmick. I really don't see how that performs any better. In fact our fellow member VacLab did airflow tests between a Windtunnel and a Tempo, the Windtunnel clearly isn't any better but almost as good. There was also a video on YouTube which I can't show because it since got deleted, but a vacuum dealer up in Idaho did a comparison test between a self-propelled Windtunnel and a Riccar 8905. The Riccar clearly performed better. I can say though that the Windtunnel design would build up debris in the ducts and the ducts are another item that can wear out. And what I never liked about Windtunnels at least with the Maytag ones, is the way they groom the carpets. I mean they pick up fine, just the way they designed the brushrolls and baseplates of preventing of picking up the cord makes me want to go over the same spot multiple times.
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| Post# 473921 , Reply# 51 10/30/2024 at 16:34 by PowerstarEnergy (Portland, Tennessee) | ||
Why did I think this was a new thread? | ||
| Post# 473925 , Reply# 52 10/30/2024 at 19:22 by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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PanasonicVac
The point of the Windtunnel chambers from what I've gathered is to distribute the airflow so that it's more even, since most machines that use it have side-feed suction. Does it work? That's probably debatable, but debris does pass through them, and even without them, those machines clean quite nicely from what I've heard and experienced.
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| Post# 473932 , Reply# 53 10/30/2024 at 23:48 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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I've never noticed a difference. Even if the Windtunnel design actually worked, again I've seen videos of the Tempo and Windtunnel (at least the self propelled model) side by side which shows a decrease performance wise on the Windtunnel. Not saying the Windtunnel is a bad cleaner, but why spend extra on a Windtunnel when I could've gotten a Tempo for way less? Especially the Windtunnel V2/Savvy models, those had dual airpaths but they dropped performance even more than the self propelled Windtunnel.
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| Post# 473935 , Reply# 54 10/31/2024 at 09:17 by AmtrakSebo1997 (Vacmasterthegreats basement) | ||
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I have no idea what you're talking about... | ||
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