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Thread Number: 37354
/ Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
Are canister vacuums in terminal decline? |
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| Post# 398572 , Reply# 1 9/22/2018 at 08:48 (2,041 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 398575 , Reply# 2 9/22/2018 at 09:06 (2,041 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA) | ||
Yep, definitely. Even more so in the big box brands. Try going into Walmart, Target or Bed Bath and Beyond and find a canister. You might find one, tiny bagless model amidst the uprights.
It's sad, and I know everyone says "Sears is not on my radar anymore, blah blah" but if you want a store where you can find a canister that's not a tiny bagless, and has controls on the handle, Sears is where you will still find it. | ||
Post# 398586 , Reply# 4 9/22/2018 at 10:30 (2,041 days old) by JustJunque  (Western MA) |
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Honestly, I rarely even look at the new offerings when I go to a store.
I stopped briefly at the Aerus booth at our New England states fair that's currently going on. Didn't really look at the new ones, although they do look nice. And I like that there's still brand new models that are nearly identical to my Epic 6500, and Ambassador III. I chatted briefly with one of the reps about the older machines. He seemed somewhat amused by the fact that I have four Electroluxes, and asked, jokingly, if I was starting a museum. He did seem pretty knowledgeable about the timeline of E-lux models. Since we have no carpet, and only a few area rugs, I use in rotation, one of the three working E-luxes, or the Hoover Portable. If I'm feeling like a little variety, I'll pull out a Hoover Convertible to use on the area rugs. I need to make that decision soon actually. The wife is sick in bed today, so I'm currently in the process of doing a bunch of laundry, and vacuuming needs to happen. The weather is in the 60s right now, with low humidity, and a breeze. So the air conditioners are getting a much needed break, and the windows are open. Perfect cleaning weather! Barry | ||
| Post# 398596 , Reply# 6 9/22/2018 at 13:05 (2,041 days old) by completenutt (West Hollywood, California) | ||
What's old is new again. I hope canisters to regain their market share here someday, perhaps someday sooner than later.
I work in property management and most all renovations everyone is doing include removing wall to wall carpeting and putting in laminate or wood type planking (it's new, not my favorite as it's a faux wood appearance/textured vinyl). Wood or wood type flooring is more popular now, and many people believe not only is it easier to keep clean but lowers general toxins in the air.. formaldehyde, etc.
So maybe over time people will rediscover the efficiency of using a canister for cleaning both hard and soft surfaces. I agree that they are more easily used when switching out tools on the fly to keep cleaning furniture, etc. and are less tippy than an upright when doing so.
Hopefully production and design will not have regressed so much that we are left with machines that are not even as advanced as today's plasticrap models.. which by the way, I've determined are part of all industries' planned obsolescence to encourage future sales of most appliance types. It is a shame, but thankfully our beloved vintage vacs will still be going strong for decades to come and we can rely on enjoying those machines! | ||
| Post# 398599 , Reply# 7 9/22/2018 at 13:45 (2,041 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA) | ||
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I think part of it is people don't vacuum as often or thoroughly these days. It's a hassle and they just use Swiffers on those hard floor surfaces instead of getting out a vacuum.
While older canisters boasted full attachment sets to clean floors to furniture, most people today don't clean house like that anymore. They might get out the vacuum to clean under the refrigerator or vacuum a rug, but they aren't going to use it to clean table tops, lampshades, etc. They don't even think about it that way. If they need to dust they use a rag or the Swiffer and spread the dust around instead. Of course they will still buy one of those bagless uprights as long as it has a bare floor shut off, even if it isn't all that practical to have in a house with all hard floors. All of the vacuum shops here closed 15+ years ago. There's no where to go to get a Miele or anything like that, I doubt anyone has anything that nice, unless it's a Kirby or maybe an Aerus. If you want a fancier canister you have to go to the appliance store and get an Oreck one or go to Sears and get a Kenmore. That's about all there is. If you go anywhere else you might see a bagless Bissell straight suction and that's all. | ||
| Post# 398606 , Reply# 8 9/22/2018 at 16:01 (2,040 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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As someone who repairs vacuums for a living (in addition to selling them and demonstrating them), I prefer canisters that do NOT have the controls in the handle. I'm NOT a fan of PC Boards, which are required if you have controls in the handle of the hose. I love the full size attachments on the Riccar Prima. That machine was built to run for a long time.
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Post# 398612 , Reply# 9 9/22/2018 at 22:28 (2,040 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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Our family used uprights, primarily. (Hoovers, of course)
However, a few are canister fans, and own mostly Constellations, Portables, and the like.
Although, my sister is a huge fan of canisters, she still has her first "Dimension". It naturally still works at peak performance. She's never experienced any kind of trouble with her appliance as she, like the rest of us, takes care of her vacuum. She always liked the power nozzle. It saved her from hoing, scrubbing, etc, freeing her from, say, suffering from carpal tunnel. After she vacuums, she has free time to enjoy the nice weather, say, enjoying her swing, porch or yard. Of course, she, too, is not one to bash any other makes. She's far too refined for that. | ||
| Post# 398618 , Reply# 10 9/22/2018 at 23:48 (2,040 days old) by Vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell ) | ||
not worldwide.
Canister vacuums dominate the worldwide Market.
Tacony dealers should not be an example of anything the vacuum industry is doing as a whole. You do not need a parking slot for a powerhead that stays up by itself. target="_blank">m.youtube.com/watchQUESTIONMARKR... I would agree with you since the 1980a USA canister sales have been in a decline. But then you see companies like shark repackaging canisters as uprights. I will tell you canisters bringing a lot of business to Independent retail. | ||
| Post# 398624 , Reply# 12 9/23/2018 at 01:10 (2,040 days old) by completenutt (West Hollywood, California) | ||
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Agreed, Rex! Real wood materials are better for many reasons | ||
| Post# 398642 , Reply# 16 9/23/2018 at 11:26 (2,040 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA) | ||
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My house has both tile floors and carpet. I use the uprights on the carpet and the canisters on the tile or carpet if they have power nozzles. I would have to have at least a large area rug in my house so I could put my uprights to use. Otherwise I couldn't use them. I don't like using an upright on tile even if the brush is off because they don't have bristles to sweep up the dust and they seem heavier to push with the brush off.
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| Post# 398678 , Reply# 18 9/24/2018 at 04:35 (2,039 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.) | ||
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Good convo… It looks like manufacturers focus mostly on uprights these days. Canisters are seemingly withering on the vine. It seems like we've now reached a time when the dominance of uprights is just about total. | ||
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Post# 398689 , Reply# 19 9/24/2018 at 09:15 (2,039 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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I recently refinished all of the real hardwood
floors in my house. they were installed in 1942 ! The house was built circa 1876 !
The 2 bathrooms are ceramic tile, and, only my room and the staircase/hall are carpeted, (Karastan). The other rugs in the house are Chinese wool.The Hoover gallery, (cats' apartment), is soon to be renovated. I'm still debating on real wood or carpeting in there. I'm not a fan of Pergo type flooring, for various reasons. I like real textiles. It's true: we're seeing more and more vacs being 'uprights' that convert to 'canisters'.....appealing to both, I guess. Again, being the purist that I am, (also called a snob, among other things), lolo I like real canisters and real uprights. I have both. Personally not a fan of the 'combo flooring OR vacs'. | ||
| Post# 398700 , Reply# 20 9/24/2018 at 14:41 (2,038 days old) by GREGVACS28 (U.S.) | ||
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John How does one determine what a "real" textile is? 12x12 peel and stick floor tile are real? berber or wool carpet is real, isn't it? 70s thick shag carpet in Skateworld Orange is real, right? ceramic floors? | ||
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Post# 398703 , Reply# 21 9/24/2018 at 15:18 (2,038 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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What I mean is.......
real hardwood flooring, being made of oak, as compared to laminate, simulated woodgrain over vinyl. Ceramic tile, having been fired in a kiln with a glaze, etc. Don't get me wrong, some vinyl products are great.(I'm not bashing).
I, (personally) don't like the sound of shoes going over a padded composite with a wood design on it. I've seen them peel at the ends. I'd rather spend money once than have to 'redo'. I gutted both bathrooms here. They are now all ceramic tile. Yes, they have both advantages as well as disadvantages. Hardwood floors are finished now with finishes which need very little care/upkeep. 25 years ago, I put white (I KNOW) Karastan wall to wall in my room. There is NO wear to it at all. If it were now, I'd do it differently. But, a good Convertible and an occasional Hoover steamer, and it's like brand new once again. | ||
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Post# 398704 , Reply# 22 9/24/2018 at 15:22 (2,038 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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Should I have said, | ||
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Post# 398709 , Reply# 24 9/24/2018 at 19:04 (2,038 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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Post# 398712 , Reply# 25 9/24/2018 at 21:37 (2,038 days old) by Rivstg1 (colorado springs) |
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I’m more of a upright guy but...
I do enjoy my canister Rainbow, and am considering a Filter Queen Majestic recently( reading up on them now), but, maybe I’m simple ....I enjoy converting my Kirby to canister mode....seems to work just as well....everything clean in its wake! I am amazed at canisters are becoming more and more rare though
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Post# 398754 , Reply# 28 9/25/2018 at 13:04 (2,038 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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Greg, I was not upset at all.
I agree with you totally. I know all about those McMansions too. It's a shame.
I, personally like to buy, use, etc the 'real stuff' over the other stuff, when I can. The "Hoover gallery/cats' apartment is the next 'project'. Being that there will be various vacuums, carpeting might be the way to go. That white Karastan in my room looks like it snowed in there. It also shows PERFECT Hoover tracks! When I had it installed 25 yrs ago, my late mother said, "That's gonna get dirty". I WISH !! Thanks for the compliments. John | ||
| Post# 398911 , Reply# 29 9/29/2018 at 00:15 (2,034 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA) | ||
I'm a huge fan of canisters, I prefer them to uprights for day-to-day cleaning. It's a shame that they're not offered in big box stores, but there isn't much offered in big box stores that's worth buying anyways so it wouldn't mean much if they came back to stores like Walmart.
Miele is definitely still focused on canisters, their main markets primarily use canisters. The US isn't Miele's main market, they definitely have more brand recognition in Europe. European countries tend to favor canisters. Miele's tools are a joke, unfortunately, but their upright tools aren't any better than the tools offered for their canisters. | ||
| Post# 398914 , Reply# 30 9/29/2018 at 00:30 (2,034 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA) | ||
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I saw Lowes sells one Bissell, bagless straight suction. Walmart sells Eureka bagless canisters, one with a PN (may be discontinued now that Eureka was sold).
Kmart had more canisters than most stores, but they closed. I prefer canisters too, but I think most people these days don't have a clue how to use attachments on a vacuum. To them it's just a machine to clean the floor, so an upright makes more sense. | ||
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