Thread Number: 35292
/ Tag: Recent Vacuum Cleaners from past 20 years
Fantom Technologies Inc (UPDATE 2 AND QNA) |
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Post# 379767   10/14/2017 at 18:41 (2,357 days old) by FantomTechGuy (US)   |   | |
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Greetings!
FantomTechGuy here with the 2nd update to the Fantom Technologies Inc Reboot Project. I apologize for not posting an update in awhile. The reason being is when I post an update, I need to make sure the info I put in them is accurate and confirmed so I don't need to post an update to that correcting whatever it was. And the other reason for not updating is waiting for responses. As you guys know, I have contacted many people and companies about the proper name and loyalties purchasing. So far, I have only received an answer from one person. So with that being said, waiting for proper responses have hindered the progress. BUT,I am still going on with the project! So please don't think I dumped it! To add, I am purchasing a new computer system to re-master the Fantom How-To-Videos. I want the re-mastering done right, so I will do it myself. Also, This thread will be the official QNA (question and answer) on the project. If you have ANY questions, please let me know below and I will get back to you. I want everyone to be on the same page and everyone to be informed with the same info as it develops. I await the questions! -FantomTechGuy |
Post# 379774 , Reply# 1   10/14/2017 at 19:55 (2,356 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )   |   | |
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Post# 379780 , Reply# 2   10/14/2017 at 21:47 (2,356 days old) by FantomTechGuy (US)   |   | |
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Post# 379790 , Reply# 3   10/15/2017 at 07:53 (2,356 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 379835 , Reply# 5   10/16/2017 at 08:33 (2,355 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)   |   | |
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I think it's great. I still have ppl in my area who remember and lovesd their Fantom. I think the older middle aged generation will go ahhh I have one and loved it I'd like another one. Of course I'm sure you have plans you can't share with us yet to come out with some of your own modifications to the old design to compete with Shark and Dyson. If Amway can still sell enough "Workhorse" vacuums to stay in business I'm sure Fantom will sell.
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Post# 379847 , Reply# 6   10/16/2017 at 16:30 (2,355 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Keep in mind that you should probably update the old Fantom designs for the 21st century. The average consumer does not want old technology. They want the cutting edge. No one really wants the dual cyclone system anymore. It's obsolete on higher end machines. You might want to add more cyclones. Also, think about people who want a bagged machine. I myself would not pay over $80 for any bagless machine. However, I would pay up to $1500 for a good bagged machine. You might want to release a bagged version of some of your cleaners as well. I hope you succeed in your attempt to revive the Iona Fantom!
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Post# 379850 , Reply# 7   10/16/2017 at 19:02 (2,355 days old) by FantomTechGuy (US)   |   | |
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Hello!
I appreciate the responses form all of you. Now I will try to answer them. 1. I have made some designs of the "21st Century Fantom" I have made about 3 designs that have been finalized. For obvious reasons, those will NOT be made public. 2. I have been studying the vacuum market for over 3 years. I have a vast knowledge on what sells, whats crap and how to sell. I still study business and my education in that field has greatly increased over the years of studying. 3. If anyone has donated to the project, everyone will get their perks. Like I said before, I am currently waiting on my new computer system. I am waiting more towards the holidays to buy parts because they will be cheaper. So when I finally get it all together, I will start the Fantom How-To-Video remastering process. It's going to take awhile because I want it done right and professionally. And to add, if you got the perk(s) with the poster, you will receive it in about 2-3 weeks. Just make sure you give me your address so I can send it to you. 4. This is random but I thought I'd say it now. This was going to be kept secret but I am excited for this so I'll tell you. I will be making Fantom Vacuum Miniatures. If you are familiar with the Casdon toy vacuums, then these will be the same. These models will feature working lights, actual suction, and will be very detailed. They will also feature attachments, HEPA filter and a manual. These will be available when I get more information, but for now they are still in the prototype stages. The models will include the Fury, Thunder and Cyclone XT. If these go well, more Fantom models will be made. And to add, they will not be made by Casdon, I used that as an example. So I hope I answered everyone's questions and I hope to bring more updates as soon as they develop. If anyone has more questions, feel free to ask! Thanks again! -FantomTechGuy |
Post# 379854 , Reply# 8   10/16/2017 at 20:20 (2,354 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )   |   | |
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Post# 379868 , Reply# 9   10/17/2017 at 11:52 (2,354 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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I agree with crazykirbydude. Most people today will not pay more than $100 for a bagless vac unless it's a Dyson. Most of todays younger generation have never heard of a Fantom vacuum and will most likely buy only a $100 bagless WalMart vacuum.
Older Americans like myself who want a quality machine will buy a bagged vacuum from to name a few Tacony, Kirby, Sanitaire or Royal. Just say'in.
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Post# 379872 , Reply# 10   10/17/2017 at 14:01 (2,354 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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When Fantom was the new vacuum, I signed my vac shop up to be a Fantom Warranty Center, mostly so I could order repair parts. The Lightning had just come out. I remember how mad people were at their Fantoms, constantly breaking down. Each model had its own problems, many of them caused by cheap construction and materials. The Lightening model was particularly problematic.
I have noticed that you've shied away from actually saying your going to be creating (designing) a new model Fantom, and will have it go into production for sale to the public. That's a huge gamble of millions of dollars - but a gamble it is. Failure is the norm. You might want to take a minute to read James Dyson's autobiography "Against The Odds". It details the HUGE struggle to get the Dyson into production, it also details how he was screwed by Amway. Remember, the beloved Fantom was a Dyson designed product, manufactured under License by Iona. Good reading. |
Post# 379874 , Reply# 11   10/17/2017 at 14:34 (2,354 days old) by FantomTechGuy (US)   |   | |
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I have read that book, it is a very good read. I personally am not afraid of failure, because it is how I learn to do better or change what I failed. Too add, I have made 3 new designs for the "Modern" Fantoms featuring new concepts and ideas never before seen in Vacuum Cleaners. These models are completely new and I soon will start prototyping on them. Keep in mind that I will not share my new designs or prototypes to keep them confidential.
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Post# 379894 , Reply# 14   10/17/2017 at 19:26 (2,354 days old) by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)   |   | |
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I feel Dyson needs to go to back to England and stay out of America. Dyson haters, do you agree? |
Post# 379896 , Reply# 15   10/17/2017 at 19:32 (2,354 days old) by buster1849 (-)   |   | |
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I agree! |
Post# 379927 , Reply# 16   10/18/2017 at 09:19 (2,353 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)   |   | |
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Post# 379928 , Reply# 17   10/18/2017 at 09:20 (2,353 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)   |   | |
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Post# 379947 , Reply# 20   10/18/2017 at 16:21 (2,353 days old) by AmwayClearTrak (ㅤ)   |   | |
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Maybe instead of vacuums, you could re-manufature parts for Fantom vacuums and sell them. Kind of like how WMJ Refurbishing sells every part for the Amway ClearTrak. |
Post# 379977 , Reply# 21   10/19/2017 at 00:44 (2,352 days old) by kenkart ()   |   | |
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A Fantom and a Cleantrac, whoever comes to my clean out meet the first of the year will be able to get them very cheaply, as I don't keep or use plastivacs, or anything bagless. |
Post# 380130 , Reply# 22   10/22/2017 at 11:31 (2,349 days old) by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)   |   | |
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Bagged Fantoms? Why those? |