Thread Number: 34923
/ Tag: Recent Vacuum Cleaners from past 20 years
Vacuums That Sold Poorly & Died An Early Death |
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Post# 376781   8/13/2017 at 12:36 (2,441 days old) by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)   |   | |
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Name a vacuum that sold so poorly it died an early death. Also, give reasons why it happened. |
Post# 376799 , Reply# 2   8/13/2017 at 15:18 (2,441 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)   |   | |
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I believe the Regina housekeeper had a similar fate, apparently it wasn't made very well and was not around long. Mike |
Post# 376808 , Reply# 3   8/13/2017 at 20:37 (2,441 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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The Ultimate G Diamond Edition was an example of this in Kirby's stable because it was the only Kirby to have a separate auxiliary "delicate" switch for use on throw rugs and thinner carpets. Most users didn't know how to properly use this switch and mistook it for the rug nozzle's BPI light, or did not turn off the "delicate" mode before using the hose or the Carpet Shampoo System.
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Post# 376814 , Reply# 4   8/13/2017 at 23:37 (2,440 days old) by S2_82 (Ohio)   |   | |
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Garry, and Fantom vacuums |
Post# 376823 , Reply# 5   8/14/2017 at 06:36 (2,440 days old) by kenkart ()   |   | |
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For obvious reasons...its a monstrosity! |
Post# 376841 , Reply# 6   8/14/2017 at 12:02 (2,440 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)   |   | |
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Oxygen 3 and bagless machines made in Hungary. The versatility also. Maybe not the ultra silencer because it is simpler without all the auto suction motor speed pressure transducuers and fused circuit pcb boards that fail. |
Post# 376850 , Reply# 7   8/14/2017 at 15:20 (2,440 days old) by RainbowD4C (Saint Joseph, Michigan )   |   | |
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Post# 376857 , Reply# 8   8/14/2017 at 17:17 (2,440 days old) by buster1849 (-)   |   | |
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Failed poorly and was returned alot. |
Post# 376865 , Reply# 9   8/14/2017 at 19:32 (2,440 days old) by blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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The Miele Art?
I'm not sure how long they were around but they were only meant for hard floors as they relied upon straight suction. They seemed to have run anywhere from about $200-$350 They did have an onboard hose but it was a tiny little thing. The bags were tiny as well. Perhaps if it had larger bags and a brushroll it could have been more successful. It was a neat looking machine and despite having a chance to buy one i passed it up due to the bags and lack of carpet cleaning.
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Post# 376867 , Reply# 10   8/14/2017 at 19:49 (2,440 days old) by S2_82 (Ohio)   |   | |
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Almost forgot LG vacuums, LG Kompressor |
Post# 376877 , Reply# 11   8/15/2017 at 06:35 (2,439 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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I can think of a few.
The orange Electrolux Oxygen Upright. Fantastic performer and very convenient to use as it offered a cord reel, hidden onboard tool compartment, and an electronic mechanism to adjust the height of the power head. It seems electrical circuitry problems killed it. The Hoover WindTunnel 2 with a pair of beltless counter-rotating brushes. Also a victim of technical breakdowns landing them in repair shops. It seems that weird Martian-looking Panasonic upright with the two air hoses connected to the brush-roll chamber was quite short lived. The most mysterious case: the 2 or 3 year appearance of excellent Samsung bagged vacuums - winners of some prestigious German industrial design award. Even Consumer Reports top-rated the "Quiet Storm" power nozzle canister. But in Canada, these were all over the place in every vac shop for 2 ir 3 years....then they suddenly completely disappeared overnight. |
Post# 376878 , Reply# 12   8/15/2017 at 06:38 (2,439 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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Electrolux upright,canister vacuums.The giant rear wheels on the uprights broke all of the time.The hoses,motors,control boards in the Oxygen canisters broke a lot.Lowes stopped carrying these because of all the returns and refunds. |
Post# 376879 , Reply# 13   8/15/2017 at 07:23 (2,439 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 376887 , Reply# 14   8/15/2017 at 09:45 (2,439 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)   |   | |
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Post# 376888 , Reply# 15   8/15/2017 at 10:01 (2,439 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)   |   | |
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Electrolux Intensity |
Post# 376904 , Reply# 16   8/15/2017 at 15:34 (2,439 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)   |   | |
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Eureka Europa (I dont know why so short production if it was a great vac) |
Post# 376926 , Reply# 18   8/16/2017 at 16:51 (2,438 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )   |   | |
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Kenmore professional the rebranded sebo x2.
Miele red velvet the s6000 series. This was the second vacuum named red velvet. Actually had crushed red velvet glued to the outside of the case and was the straight suction only machine. Hoover Platinum Series Bagless. As mentioned before the Hoover Z Transformer vacuum in mint condition would be a lovely addition to any collection. The WindTunnel 2 that came after both bags and Bagless are kind of rare. |
Post# 376934 , Reply# 20   8/16/2017 at 19:15 (2,438 days old) by Rolls_rapide (-)   |   | |
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Here's the Electrolux bags for the 4x4.
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Post# 376935 , Reply# 21   8/16/2017 at 19:29 (2,438 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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If I remember correctly, the Eureka Europa was a Swedish-made Volta "Gemini" canister married to a Eureka Express or World Vac power nozzle. The American-made electrified hose had a pigtail connection on the canister end.
Electrolux's Volta division provided its North American Eureka division with many good canisters since the early 1990's. |
Post# 376943 , Reply# 23   8/17/2017 at 06:18 (2,437 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 376950 , Reply# 24   8/17/2017 at 09:52 (2,437 days old) by fantomfan57 (Central Texas)   |   | |
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I actually have a Eureka Europa. The unit's burgundy color is darker than the PN's. Never really have used it, just cleaned and prepped to sell on CL. I have had it for a couple of years and keep forgetting to list it. Any interest? |
Post# 376955 , Reply# 26   8/17/2017 at 12:37 (2,437 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)   |   | |
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We got a bunch of those in when I worked at Tuesday Morning circa 2010. They were priced attractively and sold briskly--but then they started coming back. Cheap plasticrap. I pitched several in the Dumpster after they were returned and was never tempted to try and save one. It gave me a renewed appreciation of my ever faithful--and comparatively indestructible--1205 canister.
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Post# 376970 , Reply# 27   8/17/2017 at 21:38 (2,437 days old) by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)   |   | |
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I forgot about the Intensity. Seems Electrolux after Eureka took them meant a drop in quality. |
Post# 376984 , Reply# 28   8/18/2017 at 09:24 (2,436 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Post# 376988 , Reply# 29   8/18/2017 at 11:22 (2,436 days old) by Air-WayCharlie (USA)   |   | |
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Post# 376993 , Reply# 30   8/18/2017 at 12:49 (2,436 days old) by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)   |   | |
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I don't know Bison. The Oasis was a Rainbow clone but not as effective. |
Post# 376995 , Reply# 31   8/18/2017 at 12:53 (2,436 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)   |   | |
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Ah the Oasis, how did I forget that one. I have both models they made. lol Terrible but yet fun to have. I have also seen an "oasis" labeled New Star on Springfeild craigslist.
From what I can find on the web it looks like Oasis started 1997 by tradewinds inc and was gone by 2001 and the patents are currently for sale if someone wanted to start producing it again. |
Post# 376997 , Reply# 32   8/18/2017 at 13:03 (2,436 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)   |   | |
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The first model Oasis.
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Post# 377011 , Reply# 33   8/18/2017 at 18:41 (2,436 days old) by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)   |   | |
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It looks so much like a Tristar. |
Post# 377066 , Reply# 36   8/19/2017 at 15:17 (2,435 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)   |   | |
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Also on the note of the Excalibur upright - they had a commercial model as well under the Sanitaire version. I have a leaflet that shows it.
As for the bagged Lift Off - it was on the market for at least 7-8 years. I think it went away because bagless vacuums were getting very popular by the time it was time to replace it. The Oasis vacuum above - never seen one in person. The power nozzle looks the one that Singer had on some canisters and also as a dry power nozzle on the Kenmore Home Cleaning System. |
Post# 377135 , Reply# 37   8/21/2017 at 12:01 (2,433 days old) by Mike811 (Finland)   |   | |
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All powerhead canisters in Finland. They just don't sell. People are so used to use straight suction canisters with the light nozzles. Weight of the powerhead is too much and it's clumsy for the majority of the people.
There is need for the ph canisters and many homes has hard to clean plush rugs. Average home what I have seen over the years has 50% hard floors and 50% carpets (no wall to wall). Surprisingly Lux (with the ph) and Kirby sell fairly well. Both are only sold door to door. No uprights at all in walmart style supermarkets. Kirby and Vorwerk are only uprights that sell in here. I can think of just one canister vacuum cleaner with the ph, what is available in the "normal" stores. That is Electrolux Ultraone Quattro with big ph. We don't have vacuum shops. Only household appliance stores and those naturally also sell vacuum cleaners. |
Post# 377175 , Reply# 38   8/22/2017 at 12:04 (2,432 days old) by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)   |   | |
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Possibly the Eureka Atlantis failed. Easy fold down handle, but it was way worse than the Bissell units. It was sold at Lowes from it's 2004 debut. Then it got sold at Wal-Mart only and then killed off. The Express compact was worse than the Little Green. |
Post# 377223 , Reply# 40   8/24/2017 at 10:55 (2,430 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)   |   | |
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Post# 377224 , Reply# 41   8/24/2017 at 11:00 (2,430 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)   |   | |
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Post# 377225 , Reply# 42   8/24/2017 at 11:08 (2,430 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)   |   | |
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oh and we can't forget the Compact upright.....
I wonder how many of you just went WHAAAAAAAT? an upright? During the c-8 c-9 era they had a private label Eureka full(continental)hood F-G style upright with a chrome hood and black label leading me to believe it went with the C-8 around 74-78ish I've only ever seen one and it had a replacement bag. Never seen any literature on it or anything in my life BUT one did pop up on Ebay years ago. Sometimes I can google image it and it comes up. In addition to the Compact there were also a few models also labeled for Silver King. I have one so I'm not sure how rare those are. Do any of our more knowledgeable folks on here know anything about the Compact and Silver King "Eureka" uprights? Like were they sold in janitorial or door to door with the tanks, or sold in the dealership, or vacuum shops? |
Post# 377241 , Reply# 43   8/24/2017 at 21:24 (2,430 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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It's a Shark stick vacuum I used to have. I never remember seeing this one in stores and I don't remember much advertisement for it either
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Post# 377276 , Reply# 44   8/26/2017 at 09:44 (2,428 days old) by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)   |   | |
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The purple color means it was released around 2010 or so. |
Post# 377873 , Reply# 45   9/4/2017 at 20:22 (2,419 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)   |   | |
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I have to respectfully disagree with a comment made about the Ultimate G Diamond Edition. The Ultimate G was released in 2002, and the Diamond Edition was released in 2003. The DE ran until 2006, when it was replaced by the Sentria. I do agree that the DE delicate switch did confuse some owners. The original Sentria had a 6 year run,
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Post# 378137 , Reply# 46   9/9/2017 at 07:28 (2,414 days old) by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)   |   | |
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The Bissell Butler/Butler Revolution canisters anyone? |
Post# 379441 , Reply# 47   10/8/2017 at 18:01 (2,385 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)   |   | |
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What about Garry vacuums?
Or maybe, the Amway ClearTrak? Although it was not a bad vacuum at all (it is a very good one), the legal war between Thomas Dyson and Amway killed it off early. They were only sold through industrial catalogs and never sold to the general public for home use. They had to pull the models out of the market before it barely even was produced due to the patent violations, so not many were purchased. I've never seen anyone to this day with a ClearTrak or a Garry (besides me). |
Post# 380133 , Reply# 48   10/22/2017 at 11:48 (2,371 days old) by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)   |   | |
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You guys got more to say? |
Post# 380448 , Reply# 49   10/30/2017 at 21:01 (2,363 days old) by singerman (Missouri)   |   | |
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Post# 380469 , Reply# 50   10/31/2017 at 08:30 (2,362 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)   |   | |
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Post# 380485 , Reply# 51   10/31/2017 at 18:42 (2,362 days old) by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)   |   | |
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The Samsung vacuums that ripped off Dyson blew up like the Note 7. For real. |
Post# 380502 , Reply# 52   11/1/2017 at 08:10 (2,361 days old) by singingrainbow (Texas)   |   | |
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I've had one of the samsung "dyson rip off" canisters for about three years. No explosions to report and I actually really like it. Nice to use and quiet. |
Post# 380567 , Reply# 53   11/2/2017 at 07:03 (2,360 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 380571 , Reply# 54   11/2/2017 at 08:53 (2,360 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)   |   | |
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Post# 380861 , Reply# 55   11/7/2017 at 18:35 (2,355 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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I think it is because we already had the traditional Junior (right at the end of its life, however, still on sale) Turbopower Junior as well as the regular hardbox Turbopowers and of course, the Turbomasters...There wasn't really much of a market for it, I don't think and it was still no cheaper than a Turbopower Junior...In many cases, the Turbopower Junior had other features, like the height right control and a headlight.
Another thing was, it wasn't sold in Argos, which is most likely where many people would of bought their vacuum cleaner, it was sold in Index and probably Currys and/or Comet.
It is a shame, as it is a really nice machine. |
Post# 381022 , Reply# 56   11/9/2017 at 21:10 (2,352 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)   |   | |
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Post# 381023 , Reply# 57   11/9/2017 at 21:12 (2,352 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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I wonder if Hoover's two-motor Quik-Broom was a failure of sorts? Only two models were available regarding the first generation sold in the mid/late 1970s, the S2037 and then the S2043.
It seemed a failure because the Powermatic nozzle tended to lift up the carpet too much, and the size of the disposable bag was minuscule.
Hoover would revisit the 2-motor Quik-Broom once more in the late 1990s/early 2000s, but it too flopped.
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Post# 381037 , Reply# 58   11/10/2017 at 09:08 (2,352 days old) by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)   |   | |
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I'm pretty sure the Hoover stick vacs of the late 90's/early 2000's weren't bad. |
Post# 381051 , Reply# 59   11/10/2017 at 10:58 (2,352 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)   |   | |
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Yeah, I've got a couple of Hoover QuickBrooms from the late '80s and early '90s. The earlier design is much better. It's bagged, has reasonably good suction and its open nozzle design allows it to pick up debris effectively without clogging. Before I got an Electrolux Discovery II upright, it had regular duties sweeping up cat litter in the hall bathroom. The QuickBroom Supreme, with its two-speed motor is also good but I'm not fond of its bagless design and perpetually nasty dirt cup. Also, its nozzle design is inferior in that it is more prone to clogging, requiring periodic dismantling and cleaning. As a result, it remains hanging in the laundry room.
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Post# 381346 , Reply# 60   11/14/2017 at 23:00 (2,347 days old) by icee (Indiana)   |   | |
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Post# 381356 , Reply# 61   11/15/2017 at 02:30 (2,347 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)   |   | |
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Post# 381362 , Reply# 63   11/15/2017 at 08:34 (2,347 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)   |   | |
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"very dangerous"Yes!!! Death in a trash truck was one of the events that brought M L King to Memphis in April 68. |
Post# 381370 , Reply# 64   11/15/2017 at 10:58 (2,347 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)   |   | |
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Post# 381522 , Reply# 66   11/18/2017 at 04:44 (2,344 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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Did anyone mention the Royal Powercast of several years back?Have a couple in my collection.NOT used-The Metal direct air Royals and my Kirbys do better-and use less power. |
Post# 382633 , Reply# 69   12/14/2017 at 14:35 (2,318 days old) by thecarolinaguy (Carolina)   |   | |
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How did the Innovation fail in America? |
Post# 382655 , Reply# 71   12/15/2017 at 01:03 (2,317 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 382662 , Reply# 72   12/15/2017 at 10:24 (2,317 days old) by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)   |   | |
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What Panasonics didn't sell well in the US? Why would they suffer death? I mean, you're the Panasonic expert, you might get those for your collection. |
Post# 382663 , Reply# 73   12/15/2017 at 10:26 (2,317 days old) by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)   |   | |
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What Panasonics didn't sell well in the US? Why would they suffer death? I mean, you're the Panasonic expert, you might get those for your collection. |
Post# 382672 , Reply# 74   12/15/2017 at 13:44 (2,317 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)   |   | |
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Post# 382679 , Reply# 75   12/15/2017 at 16:36 (2,317 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)   |   | |
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It was a Sears only version of the Innovation with cordwinder on back and rack for small attachments at top rear of bag compartment.I have found some of my catalogs that may show it. |
Post# 382702 , Reply# 76   12/15/2017 at 23:12 (2,316 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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Panasonic was mainly sold through vacuum stores and online. Besides the Panasonics that were sold under the Kenmore brand through Kmart and Sears, they were rarely sold through department stores. I've only seen maybe three of them through the isles of Target and Walmart but it was very uncommon. Panasonic was very popular through the late 80's to the mid 90's until Panasonic got more competition with other brands such as Sharp, Sanyo, Bernina, Riccar, and Simplicity. Alot of dealers back then preferred other brands particularly Riccar or Simplicity mainly because of their quality and performance. And not alot of consumers back then bought Panasonics online because they were wanting other popular vacuums like the Hoover Windtunnels for example that were heavily advertised.
Also to answer your other questions. Pretty much any of the newer Panasonics that were ever sold after the mid 90's like the Performance Plus line ups, the Cord Reels, the Dual Sweeps, the Optiflows, or the Quiet Forces for example. And lastly, I would only collect the Panasonics that matter to me the most which there's actually alot that I would love to find unless if there are some that are not on my list which evidently I could just grab if I ran into some. But what I think would be really cool is if I could get a photo collection and have all the pictures of the Panasonics that were ever sold here. |
Post# 382749 , Reply# 78   12/16/2017 at 15:08 (2,316 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)   |   | |
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Post# 382763 , Reply# 79   12/16/2017 at 21:26 (2,315 days old) by Kenkart ()   |   | |
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Both soft and hard bag versions. Just another plastic monstrosity that will hopefully be sold in january |
Post# 442670 , Reply# 80   6/6/2021 at 19:10 (1,048 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)   |   | |
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Got some fresh meat for this thread. The Eureka Powerline Plus 7773.
Based on the research I have gathered up, this is the conclusions I have made. It was only sold for one month in 2005 - it evidently was an officially sold refurbishment from Eureka that was assembled with bits and bobs of spare parts stock and given this specific model number. Numerous complaints of poor fitment and mismatched parts were posted right after it was sold. Later in the same year and following year, reports came in of motors dying out. Also comments about it being extremely loud, which seems about right. It was sold on Overstock.com exclusively for $79.99, and then shortly later it appeared on Amazon w00t for $49.99. Based on user comments on that website, there was only a stock of 850 of them and they completely sold out fast. This was in 2005. Evidently they had a very short lifespan as none can be found today. Absolutely 0 information online about it - and no collectors have one.
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Post# 442704 , Reply# 81   6/7/2021 at 17:06 (1,047 days old) by KirbyCollector (Columbus Ohio USA)   |   | |
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And the Dirt Devil Roomate didn’t seem to last too long either. In my experience, the Broom Vac can clean pretty well. Though I’ve heard about how a lot of them burn out, or the fan breaks and they get thrown away. I have one and it’s motor burned out after I used it a few times (not a whole lot). They’re neat little machines, but don’t seem to be the most reliable.
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Post# 443195 , Reply# 82   6/22/2021 at 19:47 (1,032 days old) by Hoover300 (Kentucky)   |   | |
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Post# 443201 , Reply# 83   6/22/2021 at 21:26 (1,032 days old) by RegularRett69 (San Clemente California, USA)   |   | |
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I'm going to have to disagree with that statement on Dirt Devil Broom Vacs not selling very well- I see them all the time everywhere for sale used. They also came out in the mid to late 1980's and stopped production in 1997. This means they had a 10+ year production run with many people loving them. As for the roommate, those also sold relatively average. They were first sold under the Touch Up model name, then was called the Roommate. The Roommate had two versions- a non filter and a microfresh filter version. And then there was a yellow colored Touch Up, and a blue colored Touch Up. These 4 changes over time and the 5 year production run also shows they sold just fine.
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Post# 443204 , Reply# 84   6/22/2021 at 21:30 (1,032 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 443207 , Reply# 85   6/22/2021 at 21:42 (1,032 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)   |   | |
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Post# 443228 , Reply# 86   6/23/2021 at 11:29 (1,031 days old) by Mieles5380leo (Virginia)   |   | |
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Post# 443657 , Reply# 87   7/7/2021 at 03:40 (1,017 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)   |   | |
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Samsung Motion Sync canister. Great vacuum but exceedingly heavy. The vacuum did not last long because Sir Thomas Dyson found out about it and sued Samsung into the ground over this vacuum for what he perceived as copyright infringement in how the vacuum can flip itself around and rotate with your movements. I think it was about the wheel design or the hose connection style.
The lawsuit was settled out of court via arbitration. The offical court proceeding held in Korea though was ruled in Samsung's favor and Dyson agreed to drop all lawsuits and withdraw patent rights from the European Patent Office as well as pay back Samsung any and all court costs plus damages. Nevertheless, despite the ruling, this vacuum was never seen or heard from again in US or UK markets and its time on the market was cut short. It was only sold for just a little bit over 12 months based on reviews I could gather from US websites. Looking up the copyright and trademark information for the Samsung Motion Sync patent - it has indeed been confirmed dead because Samsung never applied for an extension period on the patent. It was filed as "Cancelled-Section 8". www.trademark247.com/moti...
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