Thread Number: 34758
/ Tag: Recent Vacuum Cleaners from past 20 years
My Arrival; Is The Bagged Power Nozzle Canister Market Dying? |
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Post# 375351 , Reply# 1   7/14/2017 at 07:56 (2,469 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)   |   | |
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Post# 375353 , Reply# 2   7/14/2017 at 08:00 (2,469 days old) by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)   |   | |
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The thing is though, there are people who prefer the space-saving capabilities of an upright. Hoover, Eureka, and Kenmore once had the best canisters. Now, those days have mainly ended. At least you have the used market. |
Post# 375362 , Reply# 4   7/14/2017 at 10:33 (2,469 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)   |   | |
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Sadly, that does seem to be the case. Everything I see in stores these days are plasticrap vacs made of 100% pure chinesium. Fortunately, I've got enough good, metal machines on hand that I'll never have to stoop to using one of those.
The idea of modern uprights offering the best of traditional canister and upright features is a bit ironic to me in that I had exactly the same thought the first time I used a canister with a power nozzle a little over 20 years ago. Having only ever used straight suction canisters up until that point, the addition of a power nozzle to the equation seemed to add the best part of an upright to the canister configuration I preferred. The general public's preference of uprights to canisters is also borne out in the thrift shops around here as canisters are generally priced less than uprights. Plastic craptastic uprights go for $15-20 while canisters--even high end models like Electrolux and Filter Queen--go for as little as $5-$10. |
Post# 375382 , Reply# 8   7/14/2017 at 19:16 (2,469 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)   |   | |
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You don't really see many canisters at all these days in department or big box stores. The only store I know of other than vacuum shops that sells full sized, bagged, power nozzle canisters still is Sears with their Kenmores.
You rarely see them at other stores, and those that you do, tend to be the bagless, straight suction variety. I think most people these days just get a cheap bagless upright even if all they have is hard floors and figure that's all they need. A lot of people don't use a vacuum to do much other than clean the floor so the idea of using the attachments isn't an important issue. I think this is also why so many vacuums now have tiny attachments, or even combo tools that combine the dusting, upholstery and crevice tools into one tiny part. People just don't use them often enough to where full size tools are needed anymore. Bagged canisters with power nozzles were probably still pretty popular into the early 2000s, they were still in the JCPenney catalog then and maybe not in Walmart, but a lot of places still sold them. Somewhere around the mid 2000s is when they started getting smaller and vacuums in general started having smaller and fewer attachments. If you look at Eureka's canisters, around that time is when they started making just the tiny ones with little attachments also, and that's all they offer now. Hoover kind of went the same way after TTI took over. And as I mentioned most big box and department stores don't sell them. Bed Bath and Beyond - none, Walmart - maybe one Eureka, Kmart - a few bagless and bagged, and maybe Home Depot or Lowes might sell one model. But yeah, Sears is pretty much it these days. |
Post# 375389 , Reply# 10   7/14/2017 at 22:02 (2,468 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)   |   | |
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This may sound a little odd, but I think in a way canisters are a generational thing. Younger people seem to go for the bagless uprights or they just use a Swiffer to clean, especially since hardwood floors are in style.
However, a lot of young people have seen my canister vacs and think they're awesome, so who knows. My mother pretty much always used a canister over the years but did have a few uprights along with them. She prefers a canister because she can do all the dusting with it - which meant the dust got thrown away instead of wiped around. One of my grandmothers had a Singer canister which may have been her first vacuum but when she moved to a new house with carpeting she got a Hoover Concept One upright to supplement it and later had another Elite along with it. My other grandmother just used a broom until she got a GE Swiveltop in the 60s, then got a Rainbow D4 in the 80s and most recently got a Bissell bagless upright. I'm not sure she has the Rainbow anymore. Oddly she did use the Rainbow attachments for her hard floors and furniture, and the Power Nozzle on the carpets, but after she got all wood floors she got the Bissell upright and stopped using the Rainbow. I think too it's possible when people get older they don't do meticulous cleaning as often as they did with a canister, so they just get an upright to do a quicker cleaning. That seems to be the case in my family. |
Post# 375406 , Reply# 12   7/15/2017 at 09:49 (2,468 days old) by Dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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The canister vacuum market is about to get a shot in the arm from the simplicity wonder/Riccar Prima tandem air canister vacuum. The tandem air premium power nozzle with the three row aluminum extruded brush roll, that also creates suction as it turns, combined with both suction motors gives the most outstanding cleaning of any power nozzle canister yet.
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Post# 375420 , Reply# 15   7/15/2017 at 15:30 (2,468 days old) by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)   |   | |
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Favorite canister power nozzles anyone? |
Post# 375427 , Reply# 16   7/15/2017 at 20:26 (2,467 days old) by Rvarley (illinois)   |   | |
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@dysonman1 - is the tandem air Prima just a new power nozzle for the Prima? Can existing Prima's use this nozzle? When will it be available? |
Post# 375429 , Reply# 17   7/15/2017 at 21:20 (2,467 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)   |   | |
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Post# 375431 , Reply# 18   7/15/2017 at 23:21 (2,467 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)   |   | |
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my ridgid wd1640 paired with a craftsman battery powered pn or turbo brush (i use mine around the house) |
Post# 375437 , Reply# 19   7/16/2017 at 01:50 (2,467 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB)   |   | |
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Well for me its simple i own a Compact C9 and a Electrolux AP 200 also a Discovery 2 .I will start by saying i love how easy it is to clean whit a canister change attachment keep going possibility are endless. You got the crevice tool ,floor tool, upholstery nozzle ,dusting brush ,power head .There is so much you can do i love the long hose of my C9 and AP 200 long reach , love it so much quick easy versatile. I always used canister from ,Hoover, Filter Queen, ,Shop vacs and Kenmore also Electrolux and my Compact.Ill never get another upright i have bare floors andt hat is what canisters are for . I do own a discovery 2 that i got in a yard sale for 20$ i use it for quick pic ups or rugs. .But when i want to deep clean its canister time . You can do alot more whit a canister because you got the hose, wands, floor tool, attachments, so versatile i love having all the tools at the ready for me to clean whit .I used them all i kept the attachments from previous vac so i have a lot to pick and chose and mix and match one tool for every job whit 1 machine .I will keep my 3 canister and my upright never know what i might need that day i love both.
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Post# 375445 , Reply# 20   7/16/2017 at 09:23 (2,467 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)   |   | |
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I also have a lot of hard floors, so I enjoy using the Centec ct10 nozzle, it's designed for hard floors, I use it with my Electrolux canisters, my Rainbow, Prima, and my electric central vacuum hose. Mike |
Post# 376478 , Reply# 21   8/6/2017 at 10:41 (2,446 days old) by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)   |   | |
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Sorry for not being on this post. The higher-end brands can still make canisters that use bags and power nozzles, and I mean the door-to-door kinds. The department store, only Kenmore is involved and a few Hoovers. |
Post# 376481 , Reply# 22   8/6/2017 at 12:42 (2,446 days old) by DrSnuggle (Sweden Stockholm)   |   | |
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Hi All!
I cannot contribute to this thread regarding US made canisters. Buy let me give you the lay of the land in Europe. I think it is 50/50 regarding canister bags and canister bagless (UK excluded as they differ a lot in their vacuum choices from the rest of Europe). However, when I look for NEW models with bags there is not many from the top selling brands (Philips, Bosch, Miele, Sebo...) compared to stickvacuums and robotic vacuums. Stickvacuums seem to be all that they promote. Finding a bagged canister in Europe with a powerbrush is hard enough. Yes, Sebo (E, D and K series) and Vorwerk (The Tiger) have them still. Another problems seems to be bagged uprights. In that department there seems to be very little happening these days. I know about people using a stickvacuum as their only daily cleaner on bare floors and rugs. Horrible. |
Post# 376483 , Reply# 23   8/6/2017 at 13:46 (2,446 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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If you could only have one or the other, I would buy a good canister with a power nozzle. You can't get an upright under the bed or behind furniture....I have a
Lazyboy Sectional that is on a metal track. It has a loveseat on one side and a couch on the other, with a corner piece that connects them. Not movable unless you take it apart. I clean behind it with an electrolux sidekick.... This sectional looks great, but when it wears out, I will replace it with just a couch and loveseat with an end table in between them. Don't get me wrong, I still like my uprights, but I use them mostly in between thorough cleanings, with a canister. Last year I got a new Avalir and I used it to do all, by using the Zip Brush with it and an extension hose to reach high ceiling fans and ledges......and the floor tool to get under beds. Sincerely, PR-21 Bud |
Post# 376484 , Reply# 24   8/6/2017 at 14:26 (2,446 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)   |   | |
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Post# 376505 , Reply# 25   8/6/2017 at 21:54 (2,445 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Jakub, what is the common European view on the Vorwerk Tiger? Is it a good canister vacuum? Good airflow theough the hose? Good filtration? Well made? Too expensive? Better or worse than Miele? Electrolux? Sebo? Bosch? Karcher?
I like the Vorwerk tools and attachments, so I wonder if the Vorwerk canister has a good reputation in Europe. |
Post# 376640 , Reply# 27   8/10/2017 at 17:38 (2,442 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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