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Thread Number: 34062
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Aerus Lux Guardian Platinum |
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| Post# 369128 , Reply# 1 3/25/2017 at 08:27 (2,582 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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| Post# 369131 , Reply# 2 3/25/2017 at 09:38 (2,582 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
I love mine. This pic is the late Dan Moses, trying out my then-brand-new Guardian Platinum against the 1937 model 30 in the 1930's room of the Vacuum Cleaner Museum. I've had it for years now, use it all the time (with HEPA bags) and LOVE it. Love the flip over rug/floor tool that's still high quality along with the high quality dusting brush/upholstery tool. I love how quiet it is. Fit and finish are above reproach. My favorite feature is the 'automatic' suction setting, as quiet as a model G.
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| Post# 369138 , Reply# 4 3/25/2017 at 11:22 (2,582 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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| Post# 369139 , Reply# 5 3/25/2017 at 11:43 (2,582 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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There are 3 canisters I'd like to own.
Top of the list would be the Aerus Second would be the Riccar immaculate and 3rd I'd like to try a Rainbow. I'm not sure if I'd get on with a rainbow it is a bulky heavy machine and I'm told the hurricane motor is quite noisy but I could put up with that. Not sure if I'd like having to fill, empty and clean the bowl ever time though it might start to get on my nerves after a while but you just don't know till uve tried it. I know it's a quality cleaner. | ||
| Post# 369141 , Reply# 6 3/25/2017 at 12:17 (2,582 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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| Post# 369146 , Reply# 8 3/25/2017 at 13:28 (2,582 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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| Post# 369169 , Reply# 9 3/25/2017 at 14:13 (2,581 days old) by Mixman (Central NJ) | ||
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Lux Platinum Competition It just seems like I am not hearing as many rave reviews of the Lux Platinum as I read in the past. I guess because there is more competition now than there used to be three or four years ago especially for the price? | ||
Post# 369170 , Reply# 10 3/25/2017 at 14:48 (2,581 days old) by n0oxy  (Saint Louis Missouri, United States) |
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price of guardian platinum I think you could get something that cleans just as well for a cheaper price. A riccar Prima, Riccar Immaculate, or even the Aerus classic. Another top of the line canister is the Sebo D4. A while back there was a very long thread about the guardian platinum, if you do a search it should turn up. Mike | ||
| Post# 369172 , Reply# 11 3/25/2017 at 14:58 (2,581 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
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| Post# 369173 , Reply# 12 3/25/2017 at 15:06 (2,581 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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| Post# 369192 , Reply# 13 3/25/2017 at 16:41 (2,581 days old) by Mixman (Central NJ) | ||
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Mike - n0oxy Actually, I have a used Simplicity Moxie on the way. It is a little beat up, but I want to see how it compares to other top canisters like the Lux, which doesn't seem to get any love anymore. Mike | ||
| Post# 369366 , Reply# 18 3/27/2017 at 21:43 (2,579 days old) by S2_82 (Ohio) | ||
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Mixman.. about how long is the hose on your Miele homecare? Just curious as to how it compares to other brands | ||
| Post# 369368 , Reply# 19 3/27/2017 at 21:55 (2,579 days old) by Mixman (Central NJ) | ||
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C3 Hose The hose is about 6ft long. A little too short, but it is sturdy. | ||
| Post# 369369 , Reply# 20 3/27/2017 at 22:23 (2,579 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
I love my Miele C3 FreshAir suction-only canister. It is a pleasure to use. It came with a great SpotLight handle that is unique to Miele. And it came with an extra long cord and telescopic wand which provides plenty of reach. If I wanted to, I could buy Miele's "extend-a- hose" attachment to add another two feet of reach, but so far I have not found the need.
The AirTeq carpet nozzle is excellent for surface litter pick-up even on deep pile carpet. Best thing about my Miele: excellent noise suppression and exhaust filtration which does not blow dirt around on bare floors. | ||
| Post# 369396 , Reply# 21 3/28/2017 at 10:31 (2,579 days old) by Mixman (Central NJ) | ||
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Yes I really like my C3 too but just trying to figure out whether I should add a Lux Platinum to the collection. By the way an Aerus salesman is trying to sell me one. What's the lowest can I get this for? | ||
| Post# 369399 , Reply# 22 3/28/2017 at 11:09 (2,579 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest) | ||
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Lowest you can pay Will be dependent upon what he is willing to accept.
It will also depend upon how high up the ladder he is on sales. Considering there is about a 600% mark up on DTD vacuums, the closer to the top he is the more wiggle he will have.
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| Post# 369404 , Reply# 23 3/28/2017 at 11:52 (2,579 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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600% mark up?
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| Post# 369406 , Reply# 24 3/28/2017 at 12:31 (2,579 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
Brian - Just so you are aware, the motor in the TOL Tacony canisters - Moxie, Gusto, Immaculate & Impeccable - is NOT a double fan motor. It's a single fan Chinese motor, & if I am remembering correctly it's produced by a company that Tacony owns in China. See link below.
Mixman/Mike - As for the Aerus Platinum, to me it's not worth the $2G price the dealers want, not even if you got it for $1500. First off, the vacuum is seriously lacking in features. For that price, all the controls for speed & on, off & powerhead on/off should be on the hose handle. There's no telescopic wand, no quick release pn neck - you have to bend over to put the floor brush on, no height adjustment, no dirt sensor & no metal brushroll like Riccar/Simplicity canisters have. The bags are too small & overpriced....I was actually at one point considering a Platinum & looked into the cost of bags, found out that the price of the bags is roughly the same as Miele charges for their G/N bags, & the Aerus bags aren't 9 ply like Miele bags that you can stuff 3/4 full. I am also not impressed with the quality of the pre-motor HEPA filter, the filter paper used is nowhere near the quality it should be for a vacuum costing $2G, I guess it's a good thing they changed to HEPA Cloth bags, & of course the post-motor HEPA Filter will be nowhere near the quality Miele's HEPA Filter is, & will cost more than the $50 dollars Miele charges for theirs. Regarding the build quality & Tom Gasko saying "Fit and finish are above reproach"....oh really? Go ahead & open the bag door & look at the cheap plastic on the bag door & in the bag compartment, it's CLEAR looking at it this vacuum was made in Slovenia. And regardless of what anyone says about it's a "metal" vacuum, it's just a metal covering on a plastic body. And I highly doubt production of the Platinum will ever be brought to Bristol, Virginia. Joe Urso has made it VERY CLEAR ever since he bought Electrolux, through his own actions, that he has no interest in it, this is just another investment to him that he has stripped assets from & sold off. He has destroyed Electrolux, & I have no respect for the man. The ONLY vacuums that Aerus Holdings has designed is the Tristar MG Series, & the previous Aerus Guardian that was essentially a 2100 with a redesigned top. Everything else the company has brought out has been products from other companies they have bought & rebranded their products, or they have had other manufacturers rebrand their products with the Aerus name. The Aerus Guardian Platinum was NOT designed by Aerus at all, nor did they have any input in it's design. All they did is go to Lux International & ask them to make the vacuum in 120 volts for them. I have read online that Tom Gasko & Derreck Fricke, a fellow Vacuumland member & Aerus dealer, approached Joe Urso at a VDTA convention & arm-twisted Joe Urso to bring the Lux Intelligence, known here as the Platinum, to North America. And I wholeheartedly believe it, considering Joe Urso's character. I don't believe any of the story Aerus has put out that it was co-developed between Aerus & Lux International. It's painfully clear that's a total lie when you look at Lux International's previous models. The Aerus Guardian Platinum does have some good qualities to it though. The urethane vinyl hose is much easier to use than Miele, & a upgrade in quality over Riccar/Simplicity while still having the same ease of use & flexibility. It's nice to see they retained the blower feature, & the Sidekick III IMHO is the best mini PN currently on the market, something pet owners will appreciate for getting the hairs off the couch & stairs. The 15 year warranty is nice too, the only other companies I am aware of that has a warranty anywhere close is Miele, when they do their once a year 10 year warranty promotion for 1 month. Sebo also has a 10 year warranty, but it's warranty doesn't cover labor the entire 10 years, & certain components like the electric hoses are excluded. Compared to the Miele, Sebo & Riccar/Simplicity canisters, the Aerus Guardian Platinum is way overpriced, underfeatured & Aerus will need to do signifigant improvements to features & product quality if they want to successfully compete in the high-end canister vacuum marketplace. Rob CLICK HERE TO GO TO kirbylux77's LINK | ||
| Post# 369408 , Reply# 25 3/28/2017 at 12:44 (2,579 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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| Post# 369417 , Reply# 26 3/28/2017 at 15:25 (2,578 days old) by Tseg (World Traveller) | ||
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There's nothing like a solid vacuum... unless you prefer a lightweight one with lots of flexible features that still gets the job done and lasts. I was eying up this Platinum but one of my favorite features in my other vacuums is an adjustable wand. It saves my back. Quiet and lightweight are also very admirable features. | ||
| Post# 369447 , Reply# 28 3/28/2017 at 21:54 (2,578 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
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Thanks Mike.
I think part of the reason why everyone is so interested in the Platinum is it's a Electrolux. Electrolux is just one of those brands that's so legendary for quality, design & performance, a machine Grandma passed onto her daughter, & Mom in turn passes it onto her daughter. And some families, all they owned was Electrolux floor care products, just like some are loyal to Kirby & Filter Queen. One other brand I am going to say is not worth the money for their canisters is Sebo. For the same reasons....they are just too underfeatured for the $1G they charge for the full size Sebo D4 canister. And their S Class filtration system is seriously flawed, put it on a particle scanner & watch the scanner go constantly up & down as it detects particulates the Sebo's filtration system misses. The only premium high end vac shop brand canisters worth considering, IMHO, are Miele, Riccar/Simplicity & Lindhaus. There are also a couple of fairly new players on the scene that hold some promise....The Bank brand, which makes a rebadged Simplicity Verve called "The Bank Vault", look like really nice machines. And there's also the Soniclean canisters, which are made by EIO in Germany, which is considered a lower-tier German brand compared to Miele, Sebo, Bosch/Siemens & Fakir-Nilco. The Soniclean canisters look like they are well featured for straight suction machines, & have good bags & filtration systems, it will be interesting to see if they ever come out with a powerhead model to compete with Miele. I personally am one person who is loyal to Electrolux. And note when I say that, I did NOT mean Aerus, or the "other" Electrolux AB of Sweden, I mean THE ORIGINAL Electrolux, from 1924 to 1999. My Mom owned a housekeeping service for over 35 years, & for 29 years she used a Canadian Model 89 like in the thread I linked to below. She cleaned 2 to 3 houses a day, six days a week, for 29 years with that vacuum. NOT ONCE did the canister itself break....the only thing it needed at 23 years old, besides a couple replacement hoses, a new PN & new tools over the years, was new carbon brushes for the motor. Everything else was entirely original when Mom died when it was 29 years old. You try finding another household brand in 1969 when Mom bought it that would take hard, punishing commercial use. It's kind of hard not to admire a company when they put out such a high quality product like that. CLICK HERE TO GO TO kirbylux77's LINK | ||
| Post# 369462 , Reply# 30 3/28/2017 at 23:29 (2,578 days old) by S2_82 (Ohio) | ||
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I don't understand why Aerus/electrolux power nozzles dont have a manual carpet height adjustment option; it's very useful and comes standard on many other canister brands today.. | ||
| Post# 369470 , Reply# 31 3/29/2017 at 00:15 (2,578 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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In the UK you can get a Sebo Felix for around £200 and i've seen the E3 Premium with a PW as low as £250 that is about $310. The Felix Pet has an A rating for filtration it has a thicker exhaust filter than the other models and most of the other Sebos have a B rating which is still very high and they are have the British allergy foundation seal of approval.
Yes they are basic in features that is because they come from a commercial background where reliability is foremost.And they are certainly built better than Miele. The brushroll pops out for cleaning or replacing. The Miele brushroll is a nightmare to change and costs around £80 here in the UK which is crazy! The PN release on the Miele is prone to break too. | ||
| Post# 369475 , Reply# 33 3/29/2017 at 02:22 (2,578 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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I agree Sebo could update their "Domestic range" and add more features but whether they will is a different matter! :)
I do like the E3 Premium. If I were to choose between that and the Miele PN model i'd choose the Sebo. I understand Go Vacuum stopped selling Miele in favour of Sebo. There is a reason why :) | ||
| Post# 369478 , Reply# 34 3/29/2017 at 07:19 (2,578 days old) by s31463221 (Frenchburg, KY) | ||
Lux Platinum under $1000
First off, let me say this is NOT my listing, and I am in NO WAY associated with the seller! With that said, in reading over these posts about the platinum and looking for one under $1K. I'm always scouring eBay for decent listings, and came across this one.....it surprised me in the fact it did NOT pop up under my "Aerus" search, but rather just an "Electrolux canister" search! Anyway, if you would like to try one out at a lower price than the Aerus dealer is selling them for, this might be a start. I liked what I saw from them at the Aerus store when they first came out, and saved up enough to buy one......I suppose that's been close to five years ago.....mine is STILL sitting brand new in the box, never been opened, and at this point, I'm not sure I will ever open it! Oh well.....the things we spend our money on! LOL!
CLICK HERE TO GO TO s31463221's LINK on eBay | ||
| Post# 369488 , Reply# 35 3/29/2017 at 11:40 (2,578 days old) by Mixman (Central NJ) | ||
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Thanks saw that listing. Messaged the dealer and they told me there is no warranty on the refurbished Lux Platinum. So much for buying from a dealer! | ||
| Post# 369489 , Reply# 36 3/29/2017 at 12:03 (2,578 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest) | ||
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Here's your gamble You save $1,400 off retail and have no warranty, you take the risk and may never have a problem, or you may end up spending a couple hundred on repairs. You still save on the refurb.
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| Post# 370410 , Reply# 43 4/10/2017 at 02:29 (2,566 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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| Post# 370411 , Reply# 44 4/10/2017 at 03:13 (2,566 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.) | ||
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@sebo4me post 43 Oh no, no. Didn't you read the thread?? All Aerus vacuums are obsolete and unworthy of consideration because they lack 2 or 3 gimmicks. (Even though it is loaded with other gimmicks.) ;) | ||
| Post# 370412 , Reply# 45 4/10/2017 at 06:21 (2,566 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA) | ||
I plan to purchase one within the next few years. Don't spend more than $1500 on one, I'd try to talk your dealer down to $1300. My dealer told me that he normally starts at $2000 but that he could go as low as $1500.
I plan to purchase one because they have plenty of features, the filtration is excellent, they're very attractive looking, they come with a 15 year warranty, and because I like Aerus/Electrolux as a company. If I wanted a telescoping wand with a foot pedal release then I'd buy a $300 Kenmore. I've never had good luck with machines that have foot pedal release things for the power nozzle, they always start to have electrical problems. Now, someone said that the Bristol plant closed. I talked to someone from Aerus who told me that it is still open. So now I'm really wondering where the Classic, Legacy, uprights, and tools etc are being made. | ||
| Post# 370413 , Reply# 46 4/10/2017 at 06:27 (2,566 days old) by Tseg (World Traveller) | ||
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You don't have anything unless you have air in your tires, like my Miele C3 Alize. This is a most important feature to a vacuum. | ||
| Post# 370425 , Reply# 47 4/10/2017 at 13:31 (2,566 days old) by lux14 (Leawood Kansas) | ||
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I have a question. I know Aerus came out with a new and improved power nozzle that was to be softer and not as loud as the ones in the past. I saw a demonstration on Utube of the new nozzle. It does not sound any quieter to me. Am I missing something? Thanks! | ||
| Post# 370426 , Reply# 48 4/10/2017 at 13:35 (2,566 days old) by wyaple (Pickerington, OH) | ||
No, The MOST Important Feature Must Be | ||
| Post# 370427 , Reply# 49 4/10/2017 at 13:49 (2,566 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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| Post# 370452 , Reply# 52 4/10/2017 at 22:01 (2,565 days old) by kenkart () | ||
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My two cents.... Electrolux/Aerus vacuums are good...But I wouldn't have one for one reason, I hate the bulky plastic hose handle and wands..But I hate anything new..LOL | ||
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