Thread Number: 34014
/ Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
What happened to the UK members? |
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Post# 368749 , Reply# 1   3/20/2017 at 06:32 (2,449 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 368750 , Reply# 2   3/20/2017 at 06:47 (2,449 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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A combination of factors really. I guess the biggest thing is that there's a UK specific Facebook group up and running which gets a lot of posters.
Also bear in mind the UK is very small in comparison to the US, most of the UK collectors now know eachother in person and tend to keep in touch as we would with other friends and meet up fairly regularly. Another factor is that peoples lives have changed. For example Jack (DysonAnimal, previously VintageHoover) was a regular poster for many years and kept the UK posts up, but since he now works in the industry, he's unfortunately not in a position to post here anymore. A brilliant thing for Jack, but not so great for us lol. Personally, I've been here 10 years now and my life is very different to what it used to be. I just don't have the time to post here as much as I'd like to, but with the Facebook group, it's on my phone so very quick to post to. And lets not forget, Nar (SeboFan) who was a regular UK poster passed away last year very suddenly and unexpectedly. I think the combination of all those factors has resulted in a decrease in UK posters. |
Post# 368754 , Reply# 4   3/20/2017 at 07:50 (2,449 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Hey Matt - I'm the same! When I joined here, I was still a student and had way more free time. I now have a house, partner and career to think about. Hobbies often take a sideline and the convenience of Facebook being on my phone makes things easier.
Plus, I don't know about you, but I find the Facebook group a little more personable. There's a person associated with it, not just words on a screen and a username. Chris |
Post# 368755 , Reply# 5   3/20/2017 at 07:57 (2,449 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Prime example...Matt just had to message me and ask if it was me who posted on this thread! Lack of identity, I guess. Although maybe some people will like the anonymity, it doesn't really happen with the UK collectors as we all socialise outside of the internet now. Both the joy and the drawback of social media.
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Post# 368756 , Reply# 6   3/20/2017 at 08:06 (2,449 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 368757 , Reply# 7   3/20/2017 at 08:09 (2,449 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 368760 , Reply# 8   3/20/2017 at 08:57 (2,449 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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You're damn rude Marcus, you know that? No wonder the UK guys don't post so much anymore with comments like that.
The UK meet up's tend to happen a couple of times a year and then smaller, more local meet up's happen at various times. There's no set schedule, just whenever people are free. Not that it's any of your business but between work, family, friends and then collector friends, my time gets pretty full up. I'm also studying part time as well as working full time at the moment, so I haven't had as much time for friends lately as I'd like. Think about it, what would you rather do? Meet up with people in person or just chat with people over a forum? Even at the meet up's now, the chat is never focused on appliances as the majority of us are friends and involved in eachothers lives, so it's more now like meeting up with friends that just getting together for vac-talk. As for it dying a death, it still seems as popular as ever, just with less UK/EU postings that there used to be. |
Post# 368761 , Reply# 9   3/20/2017 at 09:25 (2,449 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 368787 , Reply# 11   3/20/2017 at 13:53 (2,449 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 368788 , Reply# 12   3/20/2017 at 13:54 (2,449 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 368792 , Reply# 13   3/20/2017 at 14:32 (2,449 days old) by Mixman (Central NJ)   |   | |
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That's actually what made me notice, when Nar failed to respond to my jabs at Sebo, I then saw that not only he, but a lot of UK members were not posting anymore. It was actually videos by he and Roger(sensotronic)that convinced me to get a Felix. |
Post# 368794 , Reply# 14   3/20/2017 at 14:53 (2,449 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 368795 , Reply# 15   3/20/2017 at 15:04 (2,449 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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I'm still here! Although I class myself as being in Scotland rather than the UK (but that's a whole other political story we probably shouldn't get into!), I am of that region nonetheless.
I first joined this forum in 2011 when I was 16 years old and didn't have a job, so I had every minute of every day to myself and spent hours browsing and posting here and fully appreciating my collection (albeit then rather small). The "good old days". Fast forward 6 years and I have a full-time job which is currently pushing me to the limits of my depression and anxiety, insurmountable money problems and other issues I'm not prepared to discuss. Basically, my life is not in a good place. Sometimes I come back on here and it helps to distract me, but more often than not I can't even look at the vacuums let alone check the forum. Mostly I just log on to see the "miscellanea" and "household" areas for any personal news from the members whom I converse with, but nothing about vacuums per se. |
Post# 368901 , Reply# 16   3/22/2017 at 04:41 (2,447 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)   |   | |
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I'm still kicking about... just LOL I browse this site most days if I've got time to kill, I just rarely post. Not a member of the elitist private Facebook group as I no longer use Facebook... So if I find the desire to post anything vac related it will be on here :) |
Post# 370005 , Reply# 18   4/4/2017 at 11:56 (2,434 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )   |   | |
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Post# 370019 , Reply# 19   4/4/2017 at 14:11 (2,434 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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![]() I still post here now and again...Since many members seem not to take much interest in the UK machines/threads I and others post about, I tend not to bother as much anymore. Regarding the "UK facebook group" I have no idea what that is, I am pretty sure I am not in it, I don't think anyone wants me there, given what i have been lead to believe...I have one "vac friend" I talk to very regularly, who happens to be one of my best friends, I tend to just keep to myself these days. I think this site is still a great archive for information but I do agree it is on its last legs really, it just needs some time spent on it, I think, to make it more user friendly and better formatted, however, it is still a good place for photos, information etc, plus all the collectors know about Vacuumland, it is what kicked it all off and put a lot of is at ease, knowing we are not alone in this wierd fascination. Alex. |
Post# 370022 , Reply# 20   4/4/2017 at 14:19 (2,434 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 370024 , Reply# 21   4/4/2017 at 14:28 (2,434 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 370027 , Reply# 22   4/4/2017 at 14:39 (2,434 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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![]() It is all bollocks really, if you have a differing opinion from someone, or they just don't like you, they fall out with you! I am not being specific to anyone. To be honest, I keep what I think to myself and igrnore any sign of conflict because as I grew up and discovered different things in my life, I realised I have more important things to worry about than if Sebo is better or why Hoover went out of business, or if someone thinks a certain vacuum doesn't deep clean...I like what I like, buy what I like and I have my opinions that won't change. You just have to realise that some people enjoy making you look like the bad guy, by keep subtly driving you to a reaction, sometimes publicly...That is the same in daily life too. Long gone are my days of being involved in long winded debates on here, because, frankly, I just couldn't give a sh*t anymore. 🙉🙈😂 I like vacuums, here, that is the important thing. Lol, anyway, that is my peace said...I don't know who put 50p in me! 😂😂 Alex. |
Post# 370028 , Reply# 23   4/4/2017 at 14:46 (2,434 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 370030 , Reply# 24   4/4/2017 at 15:00 (2,434 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Haha fair enough, but if you upset everyone then you won't have anyone to share your interest with, that wouldn't be fun...I am not really a sensitive person so can usually differentiate between what is banter and what isn't, even when someone is trying to be hurtful with their comments on my opinions or views etc.
I tend to be a tough cookie these days, men have hurt me so much as it is lol, I am ised to the abuse! 😝 Anyway, regarding the thread...I am here, long serving Vacuumland member. ☺️ |
Post# 370031 , Reply# 25   4/4/2017 at 15:11 (2,434 days old) by gottahaveahoove ![]() |
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It's always fun to hear English terms used so differently. Also, it's great to see the 'other' machines, etc. I've met a lot of people in here. Some, I'll never meet, and that IS quite alright. As far as thick skin: one needs it. Some like us, don't like us, hate us, bash us, etc. Some are those who really don't know us at all. We're disliked for liking one brand, and one brand only, OR for being very close friends with others whom they despise.(guilt by association). That doesn't bother me in the least. Often, people tend to bash us, what we do, where we go, groups to which we belong, etc. Yet, they seem obsessed with us at the same time. They hate what we do, yet, they seem fascinated at the same time.
It was great at Hoover's 100th b day to see Jack and others from 'across the pond' over here. I enjoy seeing people's collections, hearing stories, sharing knowledge, and I get as kick out of some false info I hear. I plan, one day, to go to Perivale and stand in front of your Hoover art deco building. I also hope to meet Jamie Murray. His posts are always great, as well as those from Italy, France, Africa, Australia, etc. John |
Post# 370046 , Reply# 26   4/4/2017 at 19:45 (2,433 days old) by Numatic_boy (England)   |   | |
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Hi,I haven't been on here lately,I agree with the sentiment that the forum is more American centric.I also haven't had the time,I find it easier to post on the Henry face-book forums,youtube or Instagram.They are easier to use in my opinion.Ive also had issues with the aforementioned Facebook group above but last time I spoke up about it,it rustled their jimmies and started a mini hate fest about me which doesn't affect me too much as there's more to life then social media.Its just a bit silly that middle age men sit there roasting people behind there backs.Dont get me wrong,most people on there are decent,just a few are a bit elitist.
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Post# 370062 , Reply# 27   4/5/2017 at 02:09 (2,433 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)   |   | |
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Someone else here now uses the username 'vintagehoover' & is from NJ |
Post# 370064 , Reply# 28   4/5/2017 at 02:37 (2,433 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Ha...it's so amusing that people who aren't on the Facebook group are bitter and bitching about it. It's a great group and worth being in just for access to the sheer volume of brochures & catalogues that are on there. The banter is about more free & easy rather than the more structured discussions that happen on here - not that that's a bad thing, it's just the nature of forums & social media.
If you were on the group and are no longer, there's usually a good reason for that. At least 2 of you were booted for being quite rude to other people for absolutely no reason. So if you find it elitist or pathetic or whatever...maybe you should look in the mirror. There's 70 odd people in that group and 1 of you. Figure it out. |
Post# 370065 , Reply# 29   4/5/2017 at 02:48 (2,433 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 370066 , Reply# 30   4/5/2017 at 03:13 (2,433 days old) by Numatic_boy (England)   |   | |
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Im just stating what I thought happned.I apologized for my intial off post but I didnt do anything when I was attacked the second time.Im not roasting or naming and shaming.Infact,I was having quite a nice discussion with who I believe to be you on those Argos Aztec Goblin machines.Im not middle aged.Im not playing an age card either.
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Post# 370067 , Reply# 31   4/5/2017 at 03:14 (2,433 days old) by Numatic_boy (England)   |   | |
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Post# 370068 , Reply# 32   4/5/2017 at 03:42 (2,433 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 370073 , Reply# 33   4/5/2017 at 06:19 (2,433 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )   |   | |
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are all well and good dont get me wrong, I fully understand why im not in this particular one as say 6 or 7 members aren't particularly fond of me. from my last conversations with these members they told me that apparently I know what I did. the funny thing is is that I actually cant and if it was something when I was like 13 then I do apologise at the young me was a complete doorknob without the door. from what Ive seen if a few dont like you your not getting in hence why I dont really bother. as a UK member I do post on here occasionally but it is very American with a lot of the machines I have no clue as to what they actually are. Im actually surprised when i see a UK member has made a thread. I am past holding a grudge and just keep myself to myself. as a lot of other members have posted my life has changed dramatically, work, college ect. so I simply dont have the same amount of time as I used to. hope everyone is well.
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Post# 370075 , Reply# 34   4/5/2017 at 06:39 (2,433 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 370087 , Reply# 35   4/5/2017 at 10:58 (2,433 days old) by gottahaveahoove ![]() |
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(like wine or cheese). Everyone has rubbed someone the wrong way at one point or another. It's great when we can move on like this.
As far as being very "American", well, it started here. But, I'm personally very happy to see others jump in. I love seeing machines, manuals (leaflets) from other places. I'm personally trying to obtain a Hoover floor tool that 'flips'. I've seen them in her., We never had them 'over here'. Well, some of us have matured. (I'm not referring to anyone outside of the U.S.A. Some will never mature. That's the way it it, i suppose. Keep up the great posts, including photos, please. John |
Post# 370108 , Reply# 36   4/5/2017 at 16:11 (2,432 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )   |   | |
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please dont think that was some kind of dig at Americans. your machines are great, especially your Hoovers. Ours were always so bland where as you had a huge array of vibrant colours and patterns. its sometimes there are an awful amount of threads of machines that dont particularly interest me and I have absolutely no clue about them. I do enjoy finding out about machines Ive never heard of and discovering new models.
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Post# 370110 , Reply# 37   4/5/2017 at 17:17 (2,432 days old) by gottahaveahoove ![]() |
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Post# 465407 , Reply# 39   8/20/2023 at 17:52 by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 465410 , Reply# 40   8/20/2023 at 21:17 by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)   |   | |
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![]() Most UK members have migrated to the Manchester Vacs forum. It's Dyson/Miele/Sebo-centric but they have side-forums for vintage vacs and vacuum rebuilds/restorations. Cheers all. manchestervacs.co.uk/DysonForum/... |
Post# 465437 , Reply# 41   8/21/2023 at 23:27 by Mixman (Central NJ)   |   | |
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Never thought this would be resurrected. |
Post# 465449 , Reply# 42   8/22/2023 at 20:50 by repairman (Woodridge, IL)   |   | |
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What ever happened to Simon? He had a nice collection of various Hoover Juniors and Seniors. His Vacuumland username was 74simon and his Youtube channel is Lswrsi. |
Post# 465769 , Reply# 45   9/2/2023 at 12:18 by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 465770 , Reply# 46   9/2/2023 at 14:11 by ilovehoovers (England)   |   | |
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Post# 465812 , Reply# 48   9/4/2023 at 00:43 by Gottahaveahoove ![]() |
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Post# 466121 , Reply# 49   9/12/2023 at 20:23 by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 466318 , Reply# 50   9/19/2023 at 05:01 by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)   |   | |
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![]() Nothing wrong with the website, I find it perfect. Too many people are used to the toxic septic feed of social media just shoving stuff in your face, that they don't know what actual forums and websites are like. The vacuumcleaners sub on reddit is just a toxic waste dump, all they do is have an echo chamber of "sebo good. shark bad. you need a $3,000 vacuum to clean a throw rug" and there's nobody that has vintage vacuums, they are all your mom or some college kid wanting a vacuum without knowing about vacuums, and people are so toxic there to anyone that has an affinity for any brand it makes it pointless to be on there. i tried posting a bissell vac i had to there before and got dogpiled and chased out by the most vile people you could ever see and i never went back. There's YouTube too but the conversations and discourse are so disjointed and separated and you can only ever talk with the creator of the video or any random person that happens to find it months or years later. there's truely no other place to gather vacuum collectors up besides here. |
Post# 466341 , Reply# 51   9/20/2023 at 07:49 by ilovehoovers (England)   |   | |
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