Thread Number: 32811
/ Tag: 80s/90s Vacuum Cleaners
New to me Royal 886 |
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Post# 359206   9/12/2016 at 23:10 (2,776 days old) by upright886 (Wauwatosa Wisconsin)   |   | |
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The Find: 6 miles from work picked it up during lunch.
I acquired a lightly used Royal 886. Needs some elbow grease to shine up the housing from 25 years of storage. Internally the wood brush-bar is still set to 1 without any discernible wear. It came with 2 of 4 original bags as well as two spare belts the original shop packed in. It appears to have been purchased 5/1/1987 so it is among the first 886 models. The second owner exclusively uses a commercial QRECK to clean homes and never ran this one but moved it to 3 homes. I wanted a non bypass design vacuum to work in conjunction with plans to switch back to dry cleaning with my new Oreck Orbiter. My Eureka is a non bypass but was getting tired and lacking in style for my 1940 home. My understanding of this machines history is it was used by an Aunti to vacuum two area rugs in a home that was otherwise hard wood. Slightly used so I have time to find some new brushes. My initial maintenance: I cleaned the fibers from the wood beater brush/bearing area tomorrow I will add a drop of oil to the rear bearing. Straight 30 weight just like the included manual recommends. I installed one of the two new Type A Royal Bags and will order some Eureka F&G bags for back up. Thoughts: The machine is surprisingly light and easy to maneuver. The dial height adjustment is just about as simple as it gets to match the job at hand. I can see why everyone likes these all metal upright designs. My Eureka 7575 ESP was in need of new belts and bags which would have cost me half of what I paid for this gem. I will put my last Z type fresh bag in and send it to Goodwill where it should find another 5-10 years of service. Question: My first Post... Can anyone advise if aftermarket brush assemblies have ever been created for this 6A motor. I could always rebuild with generic carbon but it would be nice to have one assembly on hand to facilitate rebuilding the current set. I think it is a little late to send in the warranty card but I should get another 30 years out of this one. A set of NOS brushes would be the best if any collectors are hording a case of them. Regards Matt |
Post# 359208 , Reply# 1   9/13/2016 at 01:04 (2,776 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Matt,
That is weird in picture #2 they did not complete the full serial number on the tag. From the looks of it, the full serial number should be: D87A001960 (where D87=April 1987). BTW, does your service manual folder contain anything resembling a parts breakdown/list? If so, please send me a private e-mail to either (1) CIIIKirbyMan@comcast.net or (2) benjamin.marioe1@gmail.com. Thank you! ~Ben |
Post# 359209 , Reply# 2   9/13/2016 at 01:25 (2,776 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)   |   | |
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Royals are hard to beat! They're powerful, maneuverable, durable, and just a great vac in every way. As for the motor brushes, they should still be readily available at your local vac shop, and also online. The Henry Co. has an online store, called Vac Parts Plus if I'm not mistaken. You may want to give them a try.
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Post# 359221 , Reply# 3   9/13/2016 at 09:15 (2,775 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 359264 , Reply# 6   9/13/2016 at 20:03 (2,775 days old) by upright886 (Wauwatosa Wisconsin)   |   | |
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Great group.
I scanned my parts list and sent it to Ben and Bill it appears I cannot attach PDF below. The brush-roll does have stiffeners and seems to lack any real wear. Living with a F&G configuration bag is preferred to a new bag less system at least by me. Newer bags or vacuums would mean a screamer. The tone and note of the 6A is mellow lacking in real chaos. I will keep a small canister handy when changing to capture the small amount of crud that may escape. With practice and technique study I am sure dust escape can be minimized. Matt |
Post# 359267 , Reply# 7   9/13/2016 at 20:27 (2,775 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 359268 , Reply# 8   9/13/2016 at 20:36 (2,775 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 359270 , Reply# 9   9/13/2016 at 21:41 (2,775 days old) by upright886 (Wauwatosa Wisconsin)   |   | |
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15 minutes with some FILTZ polish yielded nice results and revealed areas that will need a touch of Jewelers rouge. I have a 2 kilo brick to locate. I may take the muzzle off to get the back side also allowing good access to the intersection of the motor housing and the muzzle.
For now it looks good. Yes I removed the 5 year warranty sticker so it is no longer valuable to the collectors. I will just use it. Matt |
Post# 359302 , Reply# 10   9/14/2016 at 16:20 (2,774 days old) by vac-o-matic (Saint Louis, Mo.)   |   | |
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Nice job Matt! Looks great! You will love it. |
Post# 359310 , Reply# 11   9/14/2016 at 17:52 (2,774 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 359324 , Reply# 12   9/14/2016 at 23:14 (2,774 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Matt,
Here's the 886 parts list -- converted to JPEG format. ~Ben |
Post# 359441 , Reply# 13   9/16/2016 at 22:16 (2,772 days old) by upright886 (Wauwatosa Wisconsin)   |   | |
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I know it is not a vacuum but I ordered a small utility orbiter from Oreck and achieved good results with it.
Take a look. www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-... Matt CLICK HERE TO GO TO upright886's LINK |
Post# 359479 , Reply# 14   9/17/2016 at 17:35 (2,771 days old) by upright886 (Wauwatosa Wisconsin)   |   | |
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I ordered 9 Envirocare Micro Lined Vacuum F&G Eureka bags for the Royal 886 and for $1 more included a SD belt for the eureka 7575B ESP. I was impressed with the Vibra 2 beater bar driven by a new belt. Halfway through the room the magic smoke came out of the motor winding yielding it's place to the new arrival.
I do think the Eureka/Sanitaire commercial 7A vacuums would be a good modern choice for those who cannot find a Royal in good shape. The Eureka heads to retirement. RIP Matt
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Post# 367489 , Reply# 15   2/24/2017 at 19:24 (2,611 days old) by upright886 (Wauwatosa Wisconsin)   |   | |
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It is official and I blame Kevin for writing to thank me for posting the 886 manual.
After I received his email I looked at the list and what did I find. Almost NOS 886 to match my first one. This means I officially now have a collection. It spent it's whole life at a camp used 2 weeks a year only to chased grand kids who would not brush sand before coming in. The cord is supple, plastic handle is glossy from the tool with little use. No fibers on the roller or dust in the bag. When my oldest kid leaves the house they get to pick one and be set for life. I will pull the 6.4a POP sticker and hit it with Filtz and a new belt and put it to work. Matt
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Post# 367490 , Reply# 16   2/24/2017 at 19:32 (2,611 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 367495 , Reply# 17   2/24/2017 at 20:56 (2,611 days old) by upright886 (Wauwatosa Wisconsin)   |   | |
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Ben,
What date does your decoder ring say it is? Matt
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Post# 367496 , Reply# 18   2/24/2017 at 21:37 (2,611 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 367498 , Reply# 19   2/24/2017 at 22:08 (2,611 days old) by upright886 (Wauwatosa Wisconsin)   |   | |
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Ben
Thanks I named the Twins April and August. August motor sounds perfect now I can put April on the bench and fix the ringing noise. Matt
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Post# 367502 , Reply# 21   2/24/2017 at 23:34 (2,611 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Kevin,
Here are the following you need: 2-059721-000 Brush Roll http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-NOS-Roya...
1-043260-001 Rubber Belt
2-080169-200 Adjust-O-Rite Plate (Light Blue) http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-ROYAL-VACUUM...
3-088042-201 Outer Bag ("ROYAL" or "STARK DELUXE" on front)
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Post# 367557 , Reply# 23   2/26/2017 at 13:51 (2,609 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Kevin,
vacpartsplusstore.com/catalog/in... Here's a useful link for a used Royal 880 outer bag assembly. But, dare I say, per the disclaimer you might want to contact them to see if the bag in the link given is the same color as in the picture given (3-088042-201) before you buy this. ~Ben |
Post# 367622 , Reply# 26   2/27/2017 at 18:23 (2,608 days old) by Stricklybojack (Southern California)   |   | |
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Very nice blue Royals Matt. Good work getting them sorted out. Kevin, sorry to hear of your troubles. I recently went into my station wagon I use to store some of my vacuums looking for a Royal. I found that the wheels on my green bagged metal Royal upright were weirdly all crumbly! That's right, they turned partially white and crumbled away from the axles. That's what a few years of neglect gets you. I have to guess it was some unholy combination of sun, moisture, and freezing temps which do happen on ocassion here over night. |
Post# 367627 , Reply# 27   2/27/2017 at 19:14 (2,608 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Kevin,
Here's another brush roll, just like the one I showed you before that you finally got, but this one is really priced outrageously! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Royal-880-Metal-... ~Ben |
Post# 367628 , Reply# 28   2/27/2017 at 19:17 (2,608 days old) by upright886 (Wauwatosa Wisconsin)   |   | |
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The Blue Royal Twins will serve our home for many years to come. Visually the 1987 wheels appear to be Phenolic aka 1930's technology marketed under the trade name Bakelite. Not particularly great UV resistance tremendous heat tolerance which is not needed on a vacuum wheel. The redeeming quality is after a thermoset is compression molded it tends not to chemically adhere to other items. i.e. crumbs, carpet fibers etc. This may be why they stuck with it for so long. That and it was very cheap containing upto 50% tree fiber.
REF period technology www.elvenkrafte.com/bakelite%20pr... Fit's the look and feel of the uprights but could have been upgraded to modern thermoplastics as their cost were sufficiently low by the 1980 compared to thermosets. Kevin had a good idea of finding a fitment of skateboard wheels with bearings urethane treads. Even today Phnolic makes a good choice because it is a cheap bulk molding compound with good dimensional stability used on a wide array of load bearing casters. You might find one to fit... www.castercity.com/phenolicw.htm... |