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Post# 36498   3/30/2008 at 16:58 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        

Everyone may remember I got a new Perfect canister that didn't work. The manufacturer was very kind and a had a replacement the very next day. I'm just getting around to finally taking some pictures today. Here we go, happy to answer any questions as well. Enjoy!

Post# 36499 , Reply# 1   3/30/2008 at 16:59 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        
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top view...

Post# 36500 , Reply# 2   3/30/2008 at 17:00 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        
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Blower port door shut

Post# 36501 , Reply# 3   3/30/2008 at 17:01 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        
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Blower port door open...

Post# 36502 , Reply# 4   3/30/2008 at 17:02 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        
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power switch..

Post# 36503 , Reply# 5   3/30/2008 at 17:03 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        
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Front end...

Post# 36504 , Reply# 6   3/30/2008 at 17:04 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        
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Bag compartment door...

Post# 36505 , Reply# 7   3/30/2008 at 17:05 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        
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bag compartment...

Post# 36506 , Reply# 8   3/30/2008 at 17:06 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        
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Hepa material bag...

Post# 36507 , Reply# 9   3/30/2008 at 17:07 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        
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bottom side...

Post# 36509 , Reply# 10   3/30/2008 at 17:08 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        
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wheels...

Post# 36510 , Reply# 11   3/30/2008 at 17:09 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        
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data placard...

Post# 36511 , Reply# 12   3/30/2008 at 17:10 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        
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included attachments topside...

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attachments, other side

Post# 36513 , Reply# 14   3/30/2008 at 17:11 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        
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hose - machine end...

Post# 36514 , Reply# 15   3/30/2008 at 17:12 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        
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hose - attachment end with power switch for power nozzle on under side

Post# 36515 , Reply# 16   3/30/2008 at 17:15 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        
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hose attachment end suction releief valve - only thing on the whole machine that seems a little cheap compared to the original screw adjustment...

Post# 36516 , Reply# 17   3/30/2008 at 17:16 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        
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power nozzle wand - top

Post# 36518 , Reply# 18   3/30/2008 at 17:17 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        
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power nozzle

Post# 36519 , Reply# 19   3/30/2008 at 17:18 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        
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power nozzle flip side...

Post# 36520 , Reply# 20   3/30/2008 at 17:18 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        
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power nozzle data placard...

Post# 36522 , Reply# 21   3/30/2008 at 17:19 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        
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power nozzle flip side zoom

Post# 36523 , Reply# 22   3/30/2008 at 17:21 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        
Finally

The money shot...end of hose, little notch covered with thumb.

Post# 36525 , Reply# 23   3/30/2008 at 17:22 (5,868 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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It really is Perfect. It's prettier in your pictures than it is in that ad. Hope you enjoy it for a long time.

Post# 36527 , Reply# 24   3/30/2008 at 17:28 (5,868 days old) by hoover1060 ()        
120????

Damn thats alotta auction for that little bag to handle.

PN has the revised brush roll, way better than the original brush design.


Post# 36530 , Reply# 25   3/30/2008 at 17:38 (5,868 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
DAMN, Sam...

...This has got to be somehow made/licenced/authorised/something by Aerus.

Post# 36534 , Reply# 26   3/30/2008 at 17:47 (5,868 days old) by hamiltonbeachbo (Milwaukee )        

Damn,
That's an Electrolux steel body.
It looks just like my 1521 w/o the automatic control
Very nice!!
What did it cost and where did you find it.


Post# 36536 , Reply# 27   3/30/2008 at 17:52 (5,868 days old) by elux89 ()        

Thanks for posting!! A lot of suction. What's the airflow like?? I wonder what parts availability will be like.

Vernon


Post# 36548 , Reply# 28   3/30/2008 at 18:31 (5,868 days old) by turboace ()        

I ordered it from Essco, I have an account with them for my vacuum sales and service business. It is basically an exact duplicate of an Electrolux. I don't have a cfm meter or guage, but the airflow seems excellent.

Post# 36570 , Reply# 29   3/30/2008 at 20:37 (5,867 days old) by elux89 ()        

Do you know what is being used for a motor?? One or two stage, conical shaped fans or not, lamb etc??

Vernon


Post# 36577 , Reply# 30   3/30/2008 at 21:09 (5,867 days old) by turboace ()        

Hi Vernon,

Looking at the specs it says it has a Ametek Advantek Motor. Being that everything else is a dead ringer for the lux, I would guess the fans are as well. Peeking thru the intake at the rear of the bag chamber, the nut looks just like on my siverado deluxe. I also had one of these apart in the rear, took the cord winder out and the motor cover, shroud, looked like a dead copy as well, so I would say the fans are the same as in the lux.

So far my impression is that this is basically a brand new replica of the lux with more power, and better bags.


Post# 36595 , Reply# 31   3/30/2008 at 22:51 (5,867 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
Parts and Service:

If Perfect takes off, I think it could be a very good thing for vintage Lux owners. If parts are as interchangeable as they appear to be, Perfect parts might be the answer to the problems Lux owners run into on certain things. For instance, a broken sled (a.k.a. caster guard), which is the plastic piece at the bottom front, surrounding the front swivel caster, is currently irreplaceable from Aerus. One from Perfect looks like it should work perfectly (groooooan!) well.

Post# 36600 , Reply# 32   3/31/2008 at 01:02 (5,867 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)        

Wow, that silverado look alike really sucks!

LOL


Post# 36601 , Reply# 33   3/31/2008 at 01:08 (5,867 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)        

Can they get sued?
Surely looks like they copied alot from the Silverado?


Post# 36624 , Reply# 34   3/31/2008 at 08:58 (5,867 days old) by elux89 ()        

Supposedly IMIG (the makers of this clone) and Electrolux Home Care Products (not Aerus) had a court battle over some Sanitaire models.

Post# 36631 , Reply# 35   3/31/2008 at 10:08 (5,867 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

seems they did,,

CLICK HERE TO GO TO petek's LINK


Post# 36641 , Reply# 36   3/31/2008 at 12:36 (5,867 days old) by andy (Boston, MA)        

Wow, look at that brushroll. And 120" of waterlift, that's huge. Congratulations Andy!

Post# 36723 , Reply# 37   3/31/2008 at 23:26 (5,866 days old) by vac-o-matic (Saint Louis, Mo.)        

That's a very handsome vac, and sounds like their customer service is accomodating with a replacement the next day. Keep us posted on the performance and how you like it.

Rick


Post# 36781 , Reply# 38   4/1/2008 at 05:29 (5,866 days old) by kirbyboy1 ()        

I now got the scoop. Electrolux when they patented there silverado they didnt have a lifetime patent on it. One of electroluxs engineers left after finiding out how they changed there machines to all plastic and sorta junk. He then later found that the patent was up this year. So he started his own company and now made the PERFECT. It sorta reminds me of the Bison story. Well I got PSSA today. Everybody wish me luck!
Evan


Post# 36819 , Reply# 39   4/1/2008 at 10:38 (5,866 days old) by air-waycharlie (USA)        

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Isn't that a Silverado in drag?

Post# 36834 , Reply# 40   4/1/2008 at 12:14 (5,866 days old) by logan ()        

That is a replica of the Diamond Jubilee, Marquis, or Ultralux body style. The Silverado style is a slightly different, older design.

Post# 36838 , Reply# 41   4/1/2008 at 12:46 (5,866 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York)        

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I'm dying to know, how well does it clean? I have a Diamond Jubilee and had an UltraLux. The 1521's are some of my favorite machines so Im curious to know how well they clean with a more powerful motor (I always thought they could have used just a little bit more power anyway) That brush roll looks nice too, I just replaced the brush in my Epic 6000 with a genuine Lux roll and its been improved over the older brushes but the Perfect brush roll definetly has many more bristles. Im sure that Perfect power nozzle grooms the carpet nicely, i cant wait to hear about your experience with it!

Post# 36848 , Reply# 42   4/1/2008 at 13:55 (5,866 days old) by lux1521 ()        

Personaly, if I want my Electrolux to have more power, I'll put in a bigger motor myself and not buy a replica. The PN has .4 amps less then the original PN5, PN6, and PN7 so I'd stick to the original as far as those go too.

Those are just my thoughts. If you get the impression that I'm not too impressed then you would be right. I'm sure many of you will disagree and thats fine with me.


Post# 36850 , Reply# 43   4/1/2008 at 14:41 (5,866 days old) by vinvac (Dubuque IA)        

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I would love to have some of those new style bags...if they are anything like the Miele, Kirby, Hoover Constellation, or Oreck bags....they would be well worth the price.

Morgan


Post# 36886 , Reply# 44   4/1/2008 at 20:03 (5,865 days old) by elux89 ()        

Morgan,
Try purchasing Endust Filtration Hepa Bags for your Lux, they work quite well, a little pricey though.

Erick,
If you're thinking of putting a more powerful motor in your Lux, it's a good/bad idea. If your lux has the motor thermostat, you'll have to be careful if the newer motor draws more amps, as it most likely will trip the thermostat. I know guys who have tried it and that's what has happened. Maybe try without the thermostat?? Just a thought.

Vernon


Post# 36887 , Reply# 45   4/1/2008 at 20:17 (5,865 days old) by lux1521 ()        

The whole Lux motor replacement is more of an idea than anything I plan to try. I think the original motors are quite good in terms of performace so I'd stick to the original motor. If for some reason I needed more power I'd go and figure a way to do it myself without getting a replica.

A new motor, a few drill holes, and a few wire connectors and anyone can have 120 inches of lift.


Post# 36975 , Reply# 46   4/2/2008 at 15:16 (5,865 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
HEPA Concerns:

"I would love to have some of those new style bags...if they are anything like the Miele, Kirby, Hoover Constellation, or Oreck bags....they would be well worth the price."

I have a feeling that the Perfect HEPA bags might be at least somewhat detrimental to Luxes. Hear me out.

A HEPA bag is much finer than a regular one, making the vac's motor work harder. Perfect has gone to some trouble to upgrade the suction over that found in Luxes, and I think there's a reason for that- the extra oomph is needed to overcome the increased resistance of a HEPA bag.

I'm thinking that use of Perfect HEPA bags in Luxes might overwork the Luxes' motors, promoting wear.

Any opinions here?


Post# 37046 , Reply# 47   4/2/2008 at 22:10 (5,864 days old) by vinvac (Dubuque IA)        

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I would have to disagree with Hepa bags being detrimental only because using the new Hepa style Air-Tec bags in any and all of my Air-Ways increases the air flow significantly.

Some here have also taken one of the Kirby Filtrete type bags cut, sewed it to make a type C bag for a Hoover Convertable and it also increased air flow and cleaning performance.

The Hepa bags actually may be a finer webbed design, but it is done in such a way that allows for more service area that is not clogged thus not restricting air flow. Even Oreck now has a great bag that is also is charcol lined preventing many oders.

I have completely filled an Air-Tec bag in my new Air-Way, plaster dust, fine sawdust and construction dust, same with the Miele, while cleaning at the church after the restoration, and there was no noticable reduction in air flow.

Just my opinion, but I think it would greatly increase bag life and possibly air flow even in older Lux models. If so, it would also keep the motors cooler as air flow would not be deminished. I am willing to give it a try. Not sure however what effect it may have on the full bag mechanism on the machines.


Morgan


Post# 37049 , Reply# 48   4/3/2008 at 00:21 (5,864 days old) by swingette ()        

the Filtrete/hepa type bags have a filtration surface that is unlike a perfectly flat piece of filter paper. it doesnt clog like a simple paper bag does. its more cloth-like than paper-like.

I've use filtrete and microlined type bags in many cleaners and they improved airflow in every machine.


Post# 37093 , Reply# 49   4/3/2008 at 19:12 (5,863 days old) by turboace ()        
This machine rocks!

Bimmer740,

Wanted to get back and answer your question of, how does it work? I had a chance to vacuum level 2, about 2000 sq ft of carpet less the tile in the bathrooms, with the Perfect yesterday. It does a great job grooming the carpet and the powerhead has such a low profile that it makes getting under things like dressers, etc. very easy. I took some more of it apart the other day too, and it is a dead knock off of the silverado deluxe that I have. I have no doubt this will be a durable machine just as the original was.

Andy


Post# 37185 , Reply# 50   4/4/2008 at 18:04 (5,863 days old) by elux89 ()        

Andy,
The cardboard collar on the bag, is it the same in thickness as the lux bags, or did they make it heavier/thicker to accommodate the extra suction.

Vernon


Post# 40853 , Reply# 51   5/19/2008 at 06:07 (5,818 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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If I had that kind of money, I'd try one. It's quite a piece.

Post# 40868 , Reply# 52   5/19/2008 at 08:31 (5,818 days old) by luxg ()        

Andrew, thanks so much for all of the excellent pictures. I think this is a machine that many of us have been wanting to know more about. Just wondering how long is the hose? I always thought that Electrolux should have had longer ones. From what I read in my VDTA magazine this machine really caused quite a stir at the trade show in Las Vegas this year. It is also my understanding that they have an upright model.


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