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Thread Number: 32675
/ Tag: Recent Vacuum Cleaners from past 20 years
Has Anybody Used The New Kirby Charcoal Bags? |
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| Post# 358063 8/22/2016 at 13:28 (2,796 days old) by wyaple (Pickerington, OH) | ||
I'm wondering if these really work to repel pet odors. I see two part numbers though: 202816A and 202916. Don't know what the difference is...
Bill
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Post# 358065 , Reply# 1 8/22/2016 at 14:38 (2,796 days old) by Vinvac  (Dubuque IA) |
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| Post# 358072 , Reply# 2 8/22/2016 at 16:24 (2,796 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
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| Post# 358073 , Reply# 3 8/22/2016 at 16:25 (2,796 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest) | ||
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Then there is Fabreeze for those that have gone "nose blind". ;-) | ||
| Post# 358082 , Reply# 4 8/22/2016 at 19:22 (2,796 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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Post# 358092 , Reply# 5 8/23/2016 at 03:06 (2,796 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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I have a few packs of those-but haven't tried them.I bought them for my collection more than anything else.I don't have any pets.If I try one will have to see if it blocks the odors of the washer scent pellets. | ||
| Post# 358095 , Reply# 6 8/23/2016 at 07:10 (2,796 days old) by pinkge (Indianapolis,Indiana) | ||
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I have... not as my Farts don't stink,so no need for them. Chuckling! | ||
| Post# 358099 , Reply# 7 8/23/2016 at 08:45 (2,796 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS) | ||
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Post# 358102 , Reply# 8 8/23/2016 at 10:35 (2,795 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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Luckily, no need at my house, either
I was at my uncle's the other day. My cousin's hubby was vacuuming out a cabinet after a flour spill. He turned on the H. Windtunnel (bagless)... the 'scent of dog' almost knocked me out. Of course, the BIG THING WE ALWAYS HEAR when asked about changing the FILTER is . "There's a filter"? But, it's bagless....just empty the bin. Um, NO!
And, that, boys and girls, is lesson ONE w/ a bagless vacuum cleaner. | ||
| Post# 358104 , Reply# 9 8/23/2016 at 11:12 (2,795 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
Slightly off topic but it reminds me of when I was cleaning out my fridge the other day. It would make sense to have an actual replaceable fridge filter inside the fridge as Im always buying hanging charcoal things every couple of months so that stronger smelling foods don't affect others. Sometimes stronger smelling food like onions are no good even in air tight Tupperware style boxes, especially if they take up too much room.
Just goes to prove really that even open spaces require filters at time to freshen the air, or keep it clean smelling. Do American fridges have such a thing as standard? | ||
| Post# 358105 , Reply# 10 8/23/2016 at 11:14 (2,795 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 358110 , Reply# 11 8/23/2016 at 11:38 (2,795 days old) by wyaple (Pickerington, OH) | ||
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Most Fridges Here in the US Over $1000
appear to have a charcoal filters in them that I've seen in the last 5 years or so. I bought a new fridge in 2015 with an ice maker and it came with a charcoal filter. You change it every 6 months and I must say, it works very well, no odors at all!
So it doesn't appear that many have tried these new Kirby charcoal HEPA bags then. Hmmm, I'll have to get some soon and report back. Bill | ||
| Post# 358328 , Reply# 13 8/28/2016 at 14:40 (2,790 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 358339 , Reply# 14 8/28/2016 at 20:46 (2,790 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin) | ||
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Sebo_fan To date I have never had a disposable bag rip open in my Kirby. No matter what I sucked up in it. It is just another gimmick to justify charging an outrageous price for a vacuum bag. | ||
| Post# 358351 , Reply# 16 8/29/2016 at 05:12 (2,790 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 358354 , Reply# 18 8/29/2016 at 06:52 (2,790 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO) | ||
Steve (Kirby 519), you posted exactly what I was thinking. Odors Away is a great product IMO and smells just like Kirby Odorific of yesteryear. I was disappointed when Kirby changed the formula and pleased when I found OA. It can be purchased at Ace Hardware in the US. It can be used in any vacuum except a Rainbow. I've found it isn't good for the plastic on the water basin.
A few drops placed on a piece of paper towel and put against the air return on the furnace lightly scents the air in the house too. | ||
| Post# 358361 , Reply# 19 8/29/2016 at 10:53 (2,789 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
 Those scented products such as OA and Kirby Odorific just add a scent to the bad smell. They don't neutralize the odors like charcoal does.
I don't have any odor problems in my home. We have one shorthair cat. The plain Kirby filtrete HEPA bags work fine for me, but if I did have any odor problems I would definitely purchase the Kirby Charcoal lined filtrete bags for my Kirby's because I know that charcoal removes odors, it does't just add a scent on top of the odor like Odorific does.
The cost is not an issue for me because Kirby bags hold so much dirt. I can go at least 6 months between bag changes.
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| Post# 358371 , Reply# 20 8/29/2016 at 14:46 (2,789 days old) by wyaple (Pickerington, OH) | ||
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I Should Probably Clarify My Interest In These Bags
Like sptyks said, charcoal will actually kill the order, but many other methods simply mask it and then only for a short time. I want to see if these bags will eliminate any odors for a number of months.
At this time, I notice a very slight odor emanating from from all my HEPA cloth bagged machines after about 2-3 weeks of vacuuming regularly. Unfortunately, it would take 6-12 months to fill one of these bags, and I find myself reversing the bags and using a leaf blower to blow out all the debris including all fine dust on a monthly basis. I have ordered a starting supply of 6 bags and in the coming weeks, will report my findings here. In a quantity of 6, they run about $4.50 apiece with shipping. Bill | ||
| Post# 358386 , Reply# 21 8/29/2016 at 18:55 (2,789 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
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Bill, You obviously didn't check the Kirby Needs Store for your Charcoal lined bags. The cost of a six pack of genuine Kirby charcoal bags is $15.29 making the cost per bag about $2.55 each which is definitely worth the cost IMHO.
You should always check here first for all your Kirby needs:
http://stores.ebay.com/Kirby-Needs/_i.ht...
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| Post# 358387 , Reply# 22 8/29/2016 at 19:01 (2,789 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest) | ||
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I have not used the charcoal bags yet But will try them soon. I do want to say that I second sptyks that Kirby needs is a great ebay seller. Highly recommended seller. | ||
| Post# 358401 , Reply# 23 8/30/2016 at 07:12 (2,789 days old) by wyaple (Pickerington, OH) | ||
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Sptyks, that price you quoted is inacurrate
While I love purchasing most of my Kirby parts from Kirby Needs over the last year, he does charge shipping. I'm sorry I missed his sale price though...
His price is $15.29 + $4.40 = $19.69 or $3.28 per bag. BUT, those lower prices on these charcoal bags means that people who need them won't be paying much more for them than the regular white cloth HEPA bags. The funny thing is I still see sellers attempting to charge $7.50 per bag for 202816 (2-pack). I can't wait to try them out and see just how long they can really neutralize odors. Bill | ||
| Post# 358406 , Reply# 24 8/30/2016 at 08:37 (2,789 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 358580 , Reply# 25 9/2/2016 at 07:47 (2,786 days old) by wyaple (Pickerington, OH) | ||
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Got My Six Pack Today
Of charcoal bags of course! I'll start using them tomorrow but before I start filling one of them up, I'll take some fresh bag airflow measurements and compare these to the standard white HEPA bags. Did anyone notice that these charcoal bags don't have any HEPA markings anywhere? Not even on the plastic display bag? I'm wondering if these aren't HEPA rated?
Bill | ||
| Post# 358581 , Reply# 26 9/2/2016 at 08:28 (2,786 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest) | ||
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I do see they say "Micron-magic" this is Kirby's designation for HEPA type filtration. | ||
| Post# 358720 , Reply# 27 9/4/2016 at 19:26 (2,783 days old) by wyaple (Pickerington, OH) | ||
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Charcoal vs. White HEPA Bag CFM Tests Reveal
At Hose End (High Motor Speed)
White HEPA Cloth 4075 ft/min = 106.4 CFM Charcoal HEPA Cloth 4016 ft/min = 104.8 CFM Difference of 1.6 CFM at the hose end At Nozzle End (Low Motor Speed) White HEPA Cloth 5610 ft/min = 146.4 CFM Charcoal HEPA Cloth 5571 ft/min = 145.4 CFM Difference of 1.0 CFM at the nozzle end As you can see, Kirby has managed to introduce another layer of charcoal filtration to the bag without any significant airflow loss. Yay! All tests were performed with a G4 that had a freshly laundered outer bag. | ||
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