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Thread Number: 32088
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| Post# 353242 6/4/2016 at 07:52 (2,881 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
A few weeks ago i took a trip and visited a shop i'm familiar with. I learned a lot from the guy, but I think the most impacting thing he said was that Panasonic will be ending their production of vacuums. I can't remember when he said this will be happening. Kinda sad to see them they they've made some nice machines over the years.
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| Post# 353243 , Reply# 1 6/4/2016 at 08:18 (2,881 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA) | ||
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| Post# 353247 , Reply# 2 6/4/2016 at 08:27 (2,881 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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| Post# 353251 , Reply# 3 6/4/2016 at 11:16 (2,881 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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| Post# 353254 , Reply# 4 6/4/2016 at 14:21 (2,881 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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Actually I take that back | ||
| Post# 353272 , Reply# 6 6/4/2016 at 21:54 (2,881 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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Just like Panasonic | ||
| Post# 353274 , Reply# 7 6/4/2016 at 23:03 (2,881 days old) by SharkCar19998 (Michigan) | ||
Hold up, | ||
| Post# 353275 , Reply# 8 6/4/2016 at 23:22 (2,881 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA) | ||
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That is quite shocking. Since I think all of Kenmore's current canisters, stick vac, and most uprights except for the very entry-level are made by Panasonic, do you think they will find another manufacturer or will they discontinue them altogether? I had felt for awhile that something may happen to Kenmore vacuums at some point because of the issues Sears is having. But I didn't ever expect it to be because of Panasonic leaving the vacuum market. I guess sometimes when you are used to having something, you think you always will, and take it for granted. That is very sad indeed, a double whammy really.
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| Post# 353276 , Reply# 9 6/4/2016 at 23:22 (2,881 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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Yes | ||
| Post# 353277 , Reply# 10 6/4/2016 at 23:28 (2,881 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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fan of fans
Yes it will be a shame as Panasonic is and always will be my favorite brand but I'm overall not that surprised really as you said that sears always had some issues with not selling stuff well anymore and most dealers overall recommend and sold Riccar/Simplicity more than Panasonic because of their better quality and performance.
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| Post# 353278 , Reply# 11 6/4/2016 at 23:30 (2,881 days old) by delaneymeegan (Mary Richards lived here) | ||
I find it hard to believe they will simply STOP making them. It's more likely they will sell the division that does the manufacturing. Selling would give a profit for the company. STOPPING wouldn't provide any income for the assets. .....unless another manufacturer has bought certain parts of their manufacturing division OR paying them to STOP.
One way a company eliminates competition, is by buying parts of their competitor, or Paying them to STOP. | ||
| Post# 353279 , Reply# 12 6/4/2016 at 23:37 (2,881 days old) by ryan1994jeep (Georgia) | ||
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| Post# 353281 , Reply# 13 6/4/2016 at 23:57 (2,881 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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| Post# 353282 , Reply# 14 6/4/2016 at 23:57 (2,881 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
Sears has been circling the drain for a long time. The Craftsman brand would be fairly easy to sell off. Those products have been available at other stores like Ace Hardware for quite some time. Kenmore would be much more difficult since it's just a brand they slap on other manufacturers' products.
As for Panasonic-made Kenmore vacuum cleaners, I will shed not one tear for them as they are totally flimsy plastic shit. I'm sure Sears will just slap their name on some other Chinese made plasticrap vacs and most of the buying public won't even notice the difference, even if they do accidentally wander into a Sears store. | ||
| Post# 353283 , Reply# 15 6/5/2016 at 00:12 (2,881 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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This is terrible news for Canadians. Sears was the only department store where you could see a large selection of high end bagged vacuum cleaners. Panasonc/Kenmore uprights were excellent cleaners as were many of their power nozzle canisters. Canada has seen the loss of all Electrolux vacuums, all Miele uprights and now all Panasonic vacs. Our selection is dwindling each year. Very sad.
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| Post# 353284 , Reply# 16 6/5/2016 at 04:56 (2,881 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 353285 , Reply# 17 6/5/2016 at 06:03 (2,880 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan) | ||
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Yes, but Panasonic has an Asian made line of vacuums, so we may see more of those in the USA? | ||
| Post# 353289 , Reply# 18 6/5/2016 at 07:35 (2,880 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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Maybe Sears will now need to find another manufacturer for their Kenmore line. Tacony in Missouri seems the obvious choice since the "Made in USA" philosophy might work well in Sears stores. Tacony for the high-end vacs and TTI for the low-end vacs. Makes sense to me. So sad to see Panasonic go - as sad as seeing Eureka Williams disappear.
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| Post# 353297 , Reply# 19 6/5/2016 at 10:03 (2,880 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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This is one of my favorites
My Uncle's MC-V6255 he's had since 1995 he bought from my old vacuum store that had sold and has been a dealer of Panasonic for over 30 years until he retired a few years ago. He bought this to replace the old beat up brown Jet Flo (I can't remember what model) he's had since 1992 from his first marriage that was given by her parents at the time. Overall a really fun rare and ridiculously powerful Panasonic. I think it's by far the best Panasonic I have ever used out of all the other Panasonic I have seen and used when I was growing up.
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| Post# 353298 , Reply# 20 6/5/2016 at 10:25 (2,880 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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Post# 353300 , Reply# 21 6/5/2016 at 10:54 (2,880 days old) by gottahaveahoove  (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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Perhaps TTI | ||
| Post# 353305 , Reply# 22 6/5/2016 at 11:35 (2,880 days old) by delaneymeegan (Mary Richards lived here) | ||
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Let's not lose our heads people.
This is more a technicality than anything.
If Kmart sells Kenmore's rights to someone else, I'm sure the new owner will still sell Kenmore at Sears and Kmart.... and probably other places in the future. Same with Craftsman.
It would be fitting if Whirlpool bought the Kenmore name. Then they could add it to the stack of other names they stick on their appliances- Kitchenaid, Estate, Admiral, Roper, .....
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| Post# 353320 , Reply# 23 6/5/2016 at 20:44 (2,880 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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If indeed Kmart/Sears survives, and they decide to keep the store brand Kenmore, and they decide to continue to sell high end deluxe bagged Kenmore vacuums as before, they will need to look for a new American supplier and manufacturer who will work with their Sears product development team as Panasonic has done for over 2 decades. To me, the logical replacement would be Tacony since so much of their product line matches the bagged Kenmore line (bag-first uprights and power nozzle canisters). We might even see Centec power nozzles retained and combined with Tacony canisters. Who knows?
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| Post# 353329 , Reply# 26 6/5/2016 at 22:09 (2,880 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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My other favorite would be
My MC-V7387. We had one of those before at our first cabin we bought in 1995 and we remodeled it in 96. The vacuum we bought before the MC-V7387 was one just like this but it was green and I don't know what the model it was, my dad thought it was a Sharp and my mother thought it was a Panasonic. But anyway one day that vacuum was sparking and blew up the vacuum which was overall not the vacuum's fault, it was an outlet that got wired in wrong after the remodel and there was no way it could've been fixed because it was melted on the inside so the electrical guy ended up buying us another vacuum so it was this one. Overall this is my favorite childhood machine of all time, it was such a fun and cool vacuum to use whenever we would go up to the cabin. It's also a really powerful machine with it's steel handle, bottom plate, brushroll with replaceable brishstrips, awesome suction and airflow with it's triforce twin fan motor which I can say it overall ties the performance with the Riccar 8 series or Simplicity 7 series twin fan motor, and my favorite overall was the cord rewinder on this. We sold the cabin along with the vacuum in 2003 because we got a central vacuum later at our second cabin we bought a few years later and ever since then I have been trying to find one of these again and I finally got it for Christmas in 2010 that came like it had been manufactured refurbished. Hardly ever used this at all because I like to keep this in it's excellent shape as possible.
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| Post# 353338 , Reply# 27 6/6/2016 at 07:25 (2,879 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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If Sears is bleeding money, I wonder if their sales of vacuums is also so low that it is not a financially healthy department. Something tells me that compared to other departments, floor care does really well at Sears - at least in Canada. It is the only "normal" retailer in Canada (from coast to coast) that has a consistently wide variety of basic, traditional bagged vacuums to choose from. It is the easiest place to go for bags and belts and filtres - I am often finding myself at Sears to pick up supplies for a Miele or an Electrolux or a Hoover. The stores are all open on Sunday which is not the case for most vacuum specialty shops.
Most importantly: Kenmore vacuums made by Panasonic, and Panasonic vacuums themselves, have consistently topped the ratings tables in Consumer Reports for at least the last 10 years. Both uprights and canisters. And the Brand Reliability surveys done by CR also indicate a pretty reliable brand compared to other vacs out there. So, my intiution (pardon the Kenmore pun) is that the floor care departments of Sears are actually a bright spot on their spreadsheets. I would be surprised if the Kenmore vacs disappear altogether. | ||
| Post# 353345 , Reply# 28 6/6/2016 at 11:59 (2,879 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
I was in K-Mart recently and noticed that low to mid line Kenmore branded uprights (bagless, of course) are manufactured by Eureka (Swedish Electrolux). Very inefficient dual cyclone system - if they were going to copy a very old Dyson design, they should have done a better job. Perhaps the inefficient design which allows much dust into the motor, is to hasten the end of the machine's life.
The top of the line Kenmore cleaners they NOW sell are still Panasonic designs. But I have heard for six months now, by people who are very much "in the know" that Panasonic is going to stop making vacuums for the US market. | ||
| Post# 353371 , Reply# 30 6/6/2016 at 21:44 (2,879 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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| Post# 353408 , Reply# 33 6/7/2016 at 14:28 (2,878 days old) by cocobird (Laguna Hills, California) | ||
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That's too bad. i recently bought an Mc-cg902 and i like it very much. | ||
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Post# 353425 , Reply# 34 6/7/2016 at 17:15 (2,878 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA) |
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| Post# 353451 , Reply# 35 6/7/2016 at 19:34 (2,878 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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| Post# 353455 , Reply# 36 6/7/2016 at 20:09 (2,878 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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What a difference 14 years makes. Here's a news article reprinted from a Kentucky newspaper from 2002:
July 8, 2002 (Reprinted from The Advocate Messenger) Matsushita Home Appliance Co., Danville, Ky., is alive and well and plant officials held a news conference Wednesday to get the message out. "We want to dispel rumors and comments about the business," said President Mitsu Yoneda. The industry, which makes Kenmore and Panasonic vacuum cleaners, recently announced a buy-out offer to its employees. It also has been plagued with rumors that the entire plant will close ever since the microwave production line was moved overseas in 2000. J.D. Lewis, vice president for administration, said the same information released to news media Wednesday has been presented to Mayor Alex Stevens and Judge-Executive Tony Wilder as well as financial leaders in the community. Yoneda said the buy-out is being made to reduce the work force to make the plant more competitive in the home appliance business. The plant has been successful in the past "and we are positive about our present and future in Danville," Yoneda said. Matsushita became the sole owner of the Whirlpool Corp. facility on Lebanon Road in 1994. There is also a production facility in Mexico with 270 employees, primarily assembly workers. Some of the bright signs for the plant future were outlined by J.D. Lewis, vice president for administration. In 2001, the plant had record sales and the goal for this year is to exceed those sales by 5 percent and to exceed production by 4 percent. "We are capturing more of the market share," Lewis said. The quality of the upright and canister vacuum cleaners was recognized this year by Consumer Reports magazine, which rated a canister and an upright as number one in their respective categories. The plant makes about 150 different models, which can mean only differences in color or be entirely different machines. Sixteen new models are being introduced this year. Matsushita is the largest producer of canister vacuum cleaners in the United States. The Danville plant, which currently employs just over 1,000 people, handles all aspects of vacuum cleaner production in-house, including design, computer modeling, production, testing and shipping. There is also an expansion that has started with the addition of 72,000 square feet. "We are expanding to bring in a new business," Lewis said. However, it will be a couple of months before Matsushita will be announcing what the business is. About 30 employees will be added. The plant is also spending about $9 million this year for equipment and tools, including a new computer system that will include rebuilding the business database. "I don't think we'd put that in if we were going out," Lewis said. Between 1997 and 2001, $50 million was invested in the plant, including a 240,000-square-foot expansion, new plastic molding machines and the use of a computer to create prototypes. The buy-out is suppose to trim staff to a size that allows the company to stay competitive in a marketplace that has seen vacuum cleaner prices drop. Forty percent of all uprights sold in America cost less than $99, Lewis said, and 40 percent come from Mexico or China. "We are in a global competition." Lewis said it is not known exactly how many employees will take the offer to leave the company with a benefit package that includes 2 1/2 weeks of pay for every year worked. Employees eligible have until Aug. 5 to make a decision. Lewis expects the response to be high. "We think we're going to be hiring people" because of the numbers that could retire early. If not enough take the offer, employees may have to be let go. One factor driving the buy-out is a two-level pay scale the plant put in place when it acquired full ownership from Whirlpool. If those at the higher pay don't take the buy-out, they will likely have a decrease in pay. The company is also making other changes to keep expenses down. Matsushita had been paying 85 percent of health insurance premiums. As of Jan. 1, the company will only pick up 80 percent of the premiums. Matsushita has filled all its existing covered space, Lewis said. When the microwave line was moved here, the industry had to lease storage space elsewhere in the community. With the microwave line gone, part of that space is again used for a warehouse. In addition, a new assembly line has been added in part of the old microwave section. "We are happy with the direction we are going," Lewis said. "Our vision is that we will become the number one vacuum cleaner manufacturer in the world." | ||
| Post# 353564 , Reply# 37 6/9/2016 at 20:07 (2,876 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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If I were to pick what was overall Kenmore's best vacuums they ever had someone make for them, it would be the professional models that were made by Sebo. I find it overall very interesting for a top of the line vacuum manufacturer to make vacuums for a store department brand company. These models are overall the best Kenmores I have ever used. Why? First of all, it does a really good at cleaning, they are very durable, and what I really like about these is the fact that the parts are still available to get from bumper to bumper. Last time I looked at sears parts direct to see what parts were still available for these, they have everything but the Kenmore labled bags and filters for these professional models. It's a shame Kenmore didn't really sold alot of these.
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| Post# 353608 , Reply# 38 6/11/2016 at 00:45 (2,875 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA) | ||
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I agree Brian. Some may say they are junk. I agree quality wasn't as great as it was 20 years ago. But Sears' vacuum dept and many of their Kenmores were a breath of fresh air in a market that mainly consists of bagless uprights. And many Panasonics and Kenmores still used parts and design elements dating back 20 years or more. Very rare in today's new design every 5 years market. Walmart only sells two Eureka canisters and those are the only ones I can think of outside of Sears and Kmart. We have no specialty vacuum stores here.
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| Post# 353710 , Reply# 40 6/13/2016 at 06:43 (2,872 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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I hope Sears replaces Panasonic with a supplier who is capable of creating excellent Kenmore vacs with them. Tacony, Whirlpool or Electrolux would be the best replacement suppliers: I could see a Kenmore version of the UltraOne canister married to a new Centec power nozzle, and Sanitaire uprights rebranded as Kenmores. But the Electrolux canisters would have to be made at the Mexican factory and quality would have to be upgraded so that their brand reliability could be improved drastically.
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| Post# 354026 , Reply# 42 6/18/2016 at 19:08 (2,867 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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Morepowermate is right
A while ago when I last looked at the website to see what was new about Panasonic, I noticed that some of the vacuums were gone from the website, mainly the performance plus platinum line ups because I knew those didn't sold as well as the cheaper models. I spoke to my old buddy who sold Panasonic for more than 30 years before he retired. I asked about what was new with Panasonic because he still knows everything about Panasonic and that was when I knew the end had came. Not only vacuums but all other TV and household appliances as well. Just like what Morepowermate said about Kenmore, my buddy even told me that as well which I thought I said that in my earlier posts but it turned out I didn't so I'm glad Morepowermate had said something here because some members were wondering about Kenmore.
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| Post# 354030 , Reply# 43 6/18/2016 at 19:35 (2,867 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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Great. There goes the softest dusting brush on the vacuum cleaner market. Chinese manufacturers do not know how to make a soft horsehair dusting brush.
Watch for Kenmores to drop out of the top rankings in Consumer Reports now, along with a decent brand reliability score turning into something much less dependable. They should have gone with Tacony or Electrolux. :-( | ||
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| Post# 354041 , Reply# 45 6/18/2016 at 23:03 (2,867 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA) | ||
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"Great. There goes the softest dusting brush on the vacuum cleaner market. Chinese manufacturers do not know how to make a soft horsehair dusting brush.
Watch for Kenmores to drop out of the top rankings in Consumer Reports now, along with a decent brand reliability score turning into something much less dependable. They should have gone with Tacony or Electrolux. :-( " True, but maybe we should give them a chance and see what they come up with. Given that they have hired engineers and testers from Panasonic and are using their tooling and designs, I'd say there's a good chance the quality could stay the same. It sounds like Sears put some thought into this, making sure there was some experience put into it, instead of say, just going to TTI and relabeling low end vacuums as Kenmore with no relation at all to the past ones. Which may have been happening with some low end uprights, but my expectations were they would either do that or drop their Kenmore vacuums entirely. So this is certainly better news than it could have been. And the fact that they are using the same parts, suppliers and designs means the vacuums will probably stay familiar and won't be completely different. | ||
| Post# 354042 , Reply# 46 6/18/2016 at 23:07 (2,867 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
Kenmore's Future
First off....Brian, as far as Tacony or Electrolux taking over vacuum production from Panasonic, neither would have happened. Why? Well, Sears Holdings would have been IDIOTS to go with Electrolux. Their quality since buying the Electrolux name from (now) Aerus has been horrible. Only since moving the plant to Hungary, in the last 5 years, have we seen ANY improvement whatsoever in their vacuums....and even that is very much debatable, especially when you talk to any competent vac shop that is honest & knows their stuff. And also, in my personal opinion, I do believe in recent years the relationship between Electrolux & Sears must have been getting testy, we have rarely seen any vacs that were designed & produced by Electrolux, seems anything not made by Panasonic in the last 5 to 7 years has been produced by Samsung, LG or TTI.
As for Tacony taking over production? Nope. Why would they? They are a small player currently in the vacuum marketplace, trying to compete with the likes of Sebo, Miele, Lindhaus, Aerus, Electrolux, Bosch & the other European canisters in the marketplace. Tacony has barely enough manufacturing space for their own products, let alone to take on Kenmore designs for Sears. Furthermore, considering Tacony's main product lines - Simplicity, Riccar, Fuller Brush & Carpet Pro - are sold in vac shops & authorized online retailers, & the new Kenmore's would obviously be new designs made by Tacony & presumably have design similarities to existing Simplicity/Riccar designs, Kenmore vacuums would be competing head to head with the Simplicity/Riccar machines, & since they would be cheaper & more readily available to the average consumer, that would destroy Tacony's existing brands being sold in vac shops. I highly doubt Tacony would take on, design & manufacture a brand that has the potential to wipe out their existing brands. As for Panasonic dropping consumer goods altogether? I must admit, I am saddened & shocked by this. I have always preferred Panasonic's cordless phones to other brands, as well as their microwaves. Their TV's were decent quality too, not the best, but very comparable to other makes & decently priced & good value. And I personally think their microwaves are the best in the industry, they seem to last forever & you can always find them second hand quite easily. In fact, I have an old woodie 1984 Panasonic microwave in my kitchen right now. Now, in regards to Cleva buying the Panasonic designs & shipping the tooling to China. I think this is a good thing! I think Panasonic had in recent years started to improve the quality of the Kenmore vacs, as well as their designs. We can only hope Cleva won't ditch the Kenmore designs entirely & will improve on them, as Morepowermate seems to be implying above. I can only hope, however, they will rethink selling ONLY the Kenmore name for vacuums in North America. If Cleva was smart, they should strongly consider entering into a licensing agreement with Matsushita to use the Panasonic name on a line of vac shop only canisters & uprights. The existing Panasonic designs are good designs, well engineered, & well respected by vac shop owners, & a solid mid-priced brand. So, hopefully they won't throw these perfectly good designs away & miss a out on a profitable market. BUT, here comes the bad news....Any vacuum collector out there with a prized Kenmore or Panasonic canister that they want to keep running for a long time, & they will need spare parts, had better act FAST! Chances are pretty good I bet that Cleva will discontinue parts for EVERYTHING made before the year 2000. The Chinese won't care that the old vacuums should be saved & kept running, they will want them to die & we go & buy their new designs. So, any smart collector should be stockpiling & buying whatever parts they need Kenmore or Panasonic related while they still can. I actually went out & bought a new Kenmore Elite canister with the Ultra Plush powerhead when I heard of Panasonic discontinuing production, & am quite pleased with it, figured it would be best to not chance being able to get it in the future. Well, let's hope for the best for Cleva, & at least there IS still a future for Kenmore/Panasonic designs out there instead of just disappearing entirely. Rob | ||
| Post# 354043 , Reply# 47 6/18/2016 at 23:13 (2,867 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
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PS - As for any existing manufacturers Sears could have partnered with? I think it would have been nice to see LG or Samsung work with Sears to produce Kenmore models, they have produced some unique designs with similar quality to Panasonic's offerings. Another distinct possibility would have been Fakir-Werk GMBH of Germany, that is one European vacuum company with excellent designs & quality, just under Sebo & Miele. I do hope that they eventually make more of a presence in North America someday. And yes, I know this is REALLY dreaming, but man oh man would it have been nice to see them partner with Aerus :-) . Yes, I know, unlikely to happen, but hey I can always daydream of it LOL.
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| Post# 354048 , Reply# 48 6/19/2016 at 00:27 (2,867 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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Hi Rob,
Though I agree that the build quality of the European Electrolux vacs needs lots of improvement, many of their canister vacs are excellent machines: easy to use, extremely quiet and offering powerful airflow through the hose with lots of nice features like well designed straight air carpet nozzles. Some good examples of their high-performing canisters include the Oxygen, the UltraSilencer Green and now the UltraOne. If Sears had signed with AB Electrolux, production of the Electrolux Kenmores could have moved to the USA or Mexico where build quality could have been managed and improved and monitored by Sears product developers. With this agreement, we could also have seen Sanitaire/Eureka uprights branded as Kenmores. But that's all moot right now.... | ||
| Post# 354058 , Reply# 49 6/19/2016 at 09:10 (2,866 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 354104 , Reply# 50 6/20/2016 at 05:52 (2,865 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
In 2004
when I moved into my brand new house, I bought a Kenmore bagged canister. I freaking LOVED that thing. It lasted 2 years but I used it daily. The wand for the quick disconnect shorted out - so I bought another one - lasted 2 years - same thing happened...another thing I did not like was the bag chamber would leak some dust - the way the collar was designed.....but aside from that, they were the most user friendly vacuums and had lots of power......I hate to see them go.
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| Post# 354211 , Reply# 52 6/21/2016 at 08:47 (2,864 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan) | ||
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I keep passing up a lime green Kenmore progressive at the thrift shop for ten bucks. No idea if it even works. It's missing everything but the hose and hard floor tool. I'm not really interested in acquiring any more vacs. | ||
| Post# 354386 , Reply# 53 6/23/2016 at 01:35 (2,863 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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n0oxy
As far as I know about Centec. Most of their powerheads were made by Panasonic or Matsushita for Centec, Kenmore, and a few central vac companies like Vacumaid, MD, Royal, etc. I'm not sure exactly if Cleva will make powerheads for Centec but it wouldn't be my surprised if they did. I heard a rumor from a supplier that they will but I'm not exactly sure.
The MC-CG937 you could still get on amazon but I would get it as soon as you can before they are all gone. And there's a bunch of Kenmore Q bags you can still get and I hear those will continue to be made for a very long time. | ||
| Post# 354389 , Reply# 54 6/23/2016 at 06:40 (2,862 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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So sad about this. Indeed, I have depended on excellent Panasonic telephones for the last 30 years. It's amazing how one can become extremely loyal to a brand when their products are so dependable. Then they disappear and the loyal customer is left lost in the woods. :-(
I remember their slogan so well: "Panasonic. Just slightly ahead of its time." | ||
| Post# 354390 , Reply# 55 6/23/2016 at 06:46 (2,862 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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| Post# 354433 , Reply# 56 6/23/2016 at 21:00 (2,862 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA) | ||
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Post# 354453 , Reply# 57 6/24/2016 at 09:14 (2,861 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States) |
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difference between q and c bags Of course, you need to use the bag that fits the vacuum you have, but what are the differences between the q and c bags? I know the q bags are used in a lot of the canisters, were the c bags for uprights? | ||
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Post# 354468 , Reply# 58 6/24/2016 at 12:13 (2,861 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA) |
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Post# 354478 , Reply# 59 6/24/2016 at 15:11 (2,861 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States) |
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paper or cloth bags I know there was another long thread on this topic but I would always take cloth bags over paper bags, less chance of ripping. I actually have a couple of vacuums that only have paper bag options, the Lindhaus hf6 and the Metro Professional Canister. Hopefully cloth bags will be available for these at some point. | ||
| Post# 364632 , Reply# 61 1/4/2017 at 07:33 (2,667 days old) by william (Philadelphia) | ||
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Royal Sad but who cares? Bottom line is well made quality and that brings us full circle back to Royals back when they were made in Cleveland. People don't do their research when they buy. High performance and quality workmanship. Bill | ||
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Comes to the Rescue!
