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Power Nozzle for Vintage Tank/Canister Vacs
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Post# 351038   4/26/2016 at 13:10 (2,914 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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Tacony Corporation recently introduced their cordless Simplicity Freedom/Riccar SupraLite. It's a big success, and the people who have purchased them love them.

Hide A Hose is a central vacuum hose that stores inside the wall, so there is no coiling or uncoiling of the hose. The problem has always been that this hose was non-electric. Tacony Corporation decided to make the cordless upright into a Tandem-Air Power Nozzle for the Hide A Hose system.

As an owner of a Hide A Hose (along with my beloved Vacuflo commercial central vacuum), I got to try one of the prototypes. It works like a dream, better (in my opinion) than a regular Power Nozzle. The Tandem-Air system means the suction fan is "pushing" the air into the hose, and the central vacuum is sucking the air through the hose. It's a win-win situation in the war against dirt.

A friend from the Vacuum Group on facebook suggested I hook it up to a vintage cleaner, so I did.

This is an Air-Way model 55A cleaning carpeting thoroughly for the first time in almost 70 years of 'living'.

Imagine what it would do to an Electrolux model XXX? Or an Atlas? Or a Compact?


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Post# 351039 , Reply# 1   4/26/2016 at 13:11 (2,914 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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Hooked to a Rexair model B from 1940.

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Post# 351040 , Reply# 2   4/26/2016 at 13:12 (2,914 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The Sani-Way is getting the rug clean, for the first time ever.

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Post# 351041 , Reply# 3   4/26/2016 at 13:13 (2,914 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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Even a GE MV3 mini vacuum, can be a Tandem-Air canister that gets the rug clean.

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Post# 351042 , Reply# 4   4/26/2016 at 13:15 (2,914 days old) by Dysonman1 (the county)        

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Here it is, hooked up to a Compact from 1970.

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Post# 351044 , Reply# 5   4/26/2016 at 13:55 (2,914 days old) by blknblu (CT)        

A cordless power nozzle? Ingenious.

Powered hoses are always heavier, and often times bulkier due to the wire inside.

Even better would be to re-engineer the power nozzle to hold the batteries using small-format cells like Tesla. (think laptop batteries.) This would give the base some weight which I feel is missing in modern power nozzles.


Post# 351051 , Reply# 6   4/26/2016 at 14:24 (2,914 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
Ooooh!

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I was wondering what that was, i recall seeing a picture of that in another thread and thought it looked weird. That's a neat, and i'm sure effective idea.

Post# 351068 , Reply# 7   4/26/2016 at 17:25 (2,914 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)        

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Just as long as we don't think batteries like the hoverboards that are starting fires all over the place.

Is that a Rexair Series A in the background???


Post# 351070 , Reply# 8   4/26/2016 at 17:47 (2,914 days old) by ocscott3085 (DMV)        

Oh I need one of those for my Hide a Hose! Right now I rigged a Nutone 598 powerhead with 30ft extension cord for use in my wall to wall areas when vacuuming with my HAH outlet.

Post# 351071 , Reply# 9   4/26/2016 at 18:43 (2,914 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)        

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I need one, Tom, Darling!

Post# 351074 , Reply# 10   4/26/2016 at 19:58 (2,914 days old) by constellation86 (Roy, UT)        

This is a great idea. How long will it run on a charge?
Nicholas


Post# 351081 , Reply# 11   4/27/2016 at 07:47 (2,913 days old) by kenkart ()        
Ill stick to

My nice vintage straight suction machines!!LOL

Post# 351087 , Reply# 12   4/27/2016 at 09:28 (2,913 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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It runs 1 1/2 hours on a single charge, which can be accomplished in slightly more than 2 hours. It makes using the vintage cleaners so much more effective. While I love the vintage rug nozzles, they take far more work and time to get the sand and grit from the rug. Now, a vintage Model XXX Electrolux can beat, as it sweeps, as it double cleans. Not having to plug the power nozzle into anything is a blessing. It makes it truly an "attachment" as much as a dusting brush is an attachment. The power head can be removed completely from the machine when not in use, like the PN-1 on an Automatic F with the single length of cord.

Here is the nozzle being used with a Model XXX (1938 model). Finally, the ability to remove the deep down dirt that has eluded the Electrolux for 78 years



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Post# 351088 , Reply# 13   4/27/2016 at 09:31 (2,913 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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Doesn't even have to be a tank/canister. It can be a straight suction upright. Here is a 1930 Air-Way Deluxe Sanitary System, beating, sweeping, and cleaning rugs thoroughly. And not belching dust like the cloth bag uprights in the background.

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Post# 351091 , Reply# 14   4/27/2016 at 10:55 (2,913 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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It doesn't have any type of bag right so why is the wand so thick (the dark grey part below the metal part of the wand)?

Post# 351096 , Reply# 15   4/27/2016 at 12:04 (2,913 days old) by blknblu (CT)        

I assume that thick part is where the batteries are.

That is why I suggested a re-engineering to put them into the base.

 


Post# 351102 , Reply# 16   4/27/2016 at 14:20 (2,913 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The outlet from the fan case is squared/oval so it has to 'taper down'.

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Post# 351103 , Reply# 17   4/27/2016 at 14:21 (2,913 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The battery fits along the back side of the handle. There's an indicator at the top to let you know how much life is left. I always plug it back in when I'm finished with it.

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Post# 351104 , Reply# 18   4/27/2016 at 14:22 (2,913 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The fan case entering the base of the handle.

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Post# 351105 , Reply# 19   4/27/2016 at 14:22 (2,913 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The on/off switch is very conveniently located.

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Post# 351106 , Reply# 20   4/27/2016 at 14:24 (2,913 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The removable hose handle (Thanks Again to Evan Rogers). Without the pistol grip, I can use the new Tandem-Air power nozzle with my Kenmore KenKart and Commander models, as well as Lux, Atlas, etc. With the pistol handle, I can use it with Filthy Queen, Royal, Air-Way, or any machine with a short stubby attachment end.

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Post# 351107 , Reply# 21   4/27/2016 at 14:25 (2,913 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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Kenmore Commander getting the rug clean all the way, for the very first time.

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Post# 351108 , Reply# 22   4/27/2016 at 15:48 (2,913 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)        

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Where can I get one? What is the Co$t?

Post# 351113 , Reply# 23   4/27/2016 at 16:33 (2,913 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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This is a prototype. It won't be a Simplicity or a Riccar, but will be called the "Volt". As soon as they are available for sale through the Factory Outlet Store, I will let people know then. I do not at this time know what the cost will be. I wanted people to know 'it's coming'. All our vintage tank cleaners, even including the Hoover Aerodyne, will now be able to properly clean rugs.

Post# 351116 , Reply# 24   4/27/2016 at 18:59 (2,913 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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I tried it at a recent vacuum meet with Tom, it's a great power head. Very quiet and pleasant sounding yet a strong powerful cleaner. The amount of air it's pumping out the wand for the tandem air is quite impressive!

Post# 351222 , Reply# 25   4/29/2016 at 20:49 (2,911 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

I cant wait to get one for my Ridgid shop vac!

Post# 351244 , Reply# 26   4/30/2016 at 01:58 (2,910 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I WANT ONE!!!When will they be available at your local favorite dealer-He wants this,too!!The dealer beleives his central vac customers would love this device-I would like to see it available with detacheable battries so one is charging while the other is in use.I would think if it can be done with power tools and lawnmowers-could be done with this,too.I have two lawnmowers that use 40V battery packs.You can work while the other pack is charging-half hour later the battery is charged-you could keep working without having to wait for a battery to charge.This ability would make that attachment much more useful.

Post# 351259 , Reply# 27   4/30/2016 at 15:51 (2,910 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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I love it and would love to know the cost once they are out.

Post# 352241 , Reply# 28   5/16/2016 at 13:53 (2,894 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

I sure bet those bags filled up to the MAX! Or the Rainbow water getting thicker quicker

Post# 352506 , Reply# 29   5/20/2016 at 15:55 (2,890 days old) by Gr8DaneDad ()        

Hmmm... just what I need to really dig some dirt with my older machines and I imagine it would significantly improve any vacuums performance given the quality of design and build Tacony is known for. I may actually buy something 'new'.

Post# 352773 , Reply# 30   5/25/2016 at 10:40 (2,885 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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This is The "Volt" cordless tandem-air power nozzle. You'll note the lightning bolt in the black space between the "L" and the "T" in the logo. This is exactly how the production model looks. It's going into production the middle of June and should be available for sale at the end of June.

Every vacuum collector with vintage tank/canister cleaners can now enjoy real, full depth carpet cleaning.

My favorite machine to hook up with The "Volt" is a Rexair "Chrome Dome" from the early 1960's. So much airflow from the Rainbow, combined with the tandem-air suction fan of The "Volt" make for unstoppable cleaning power.


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Post# 352774 , Reply# 31   5/25/2016 at 11:09 (2,885 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Looks great. How much does it weigh? I presume most of the weight is in the handle due to the batteries? Any idea what it is going to retail for?

Post# 352775 , Reply# 32   5/25/2016 at 12:25 (2,885 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The "Volt" weighs about 9 pounds. I am not sure exactly what the retail price will be yet, however, since it is NOT a Riccar or Simplicity branded product, they will be available for sale on-line, at central vac dealers (especially Vacuflo dealers as the Volt was designed for Vacuflo's "Hide A Hose" system), and of course, from the Vacuum Cleaner Factory Outlet Store at Tacony's factory in St. James, Missouri.

Post# 352819 , Reply# 33   5/26/2016 at 16:08 (2,884 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

What kind of belt does the Volt use: flat, cogged or grooved V belt?

Post# 352857 , Reply# 34   5/27/2016 at 13:38 (2,883 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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To minimalize drag on the motor (which would deplete the battery quicker), the Volt uses a rubber belt. It's a DC motor, so could not use a Hall Sensor with the serpentine belt as used on the Premium Tacony Ultra Lite models.

Post# 353086 , Reply# 35   6/1/2016 at 10:26 (2,878 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
the volt

Interesting name, wonder if they will come out with a product called the amp at some point. This nozzle sounds awesome, only disadvantage I can think of is that if it uses rubber belts, you will be replacing those frequently. It would be interesting if Tacony changed the design of their universal power nozzle for central vacuums to work this way.

Post# 353098 , Reply# 36   6/1/2016 at 15:02 (2,878 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
height adjustment

Since the cordless vacuum has automatic height adjustment, I'm assuming this power nozzle is the same? I know many people think that manual height adjustment works better, and the other Tacony power nozzles have a height adjustment setting. On the other hand, power nozzles such as the ones from Aerus are auto adjusting and many people think they clean very well.

Post# 356330 , Reply# 37   7/20/2016 at 08:24 (2,829 days old) by moderneezer (Gatineau, Quebec, Canada)        

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The Volt is such a fascinating item but I have several questions about it.

Can the Volt be connected to a non-electric hose with a handle that has a friction-fit type connector that's 1 1/4in in diameter?

Would it be necessary to drill a hole on such handle and add a c-clip button spring (like the one here www.amazon.com/Rainbow-pu...) so that the connection to the Volt would be secured?

Will the Volt be available in Canada?


Post# 356385 , Reply# 38   7/21/2016 at 00:54 (2,829 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
answers to questions

I can't say whether it will be available in Canada, though I would assume it should be possible to obtain. There should be no need to drill any holes, the nozzle will fit on to a standard hose end quite well. Once this nozzle is available, there will be little if any reason to purchase a turbo nozzle if you have a nonelectric hose, this nozzle will outperform every turbo nozzle available.

Post# 356434 , Reply# 39   7/22/2016 at 09:55 (2,827 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The VOLT (in black) and the Hide-A-Hose cordless power nozzle (in pearl white) will be available for sale beginning 7/26/16

Post# 356475 , Reply# 40   7/23/2016 at 03:49 (2,826 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Good we have a release date--will tell the vac place I go to.

Post# 362217 , Reply# 41   11/9/2016 at 18:58 (2,717 days old) by Royal880 (Grand Rapids, MI)        
Handle

Tom,
Where can you purchase a handle like what you are using on the Volt. Is there a Simplicity part number so I can order this from my local dealer? Or can I purchase this handle from the outlet store in St. James?
Thanks, Bob.


Post# 362231 , Reply# 42   11/10/2016 at 09:25 (2,716 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The hose handle I'm using is from Hide A Hose, and is available through ESSCO to any vac shop in the country that gets their supplies from ESSCO (which is virtually all vac shops now). I got mine the night my Hide A Hose was installed. Evan Rogers sells them (and will ship) through his vacuum shop, The Vac Shack (636-937-1001). Evan is the man who did my installation of both my Vacuflo as well as the Hide A Hose and I highly recommend him.

Post# 362282 , Reply# 43   11/11/2016 at 15:21 (2,715 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
hose handles

I may get these genders mixed up, I think the end of a hide a hose is a male connector and most wands and hose ends are female, again I may have that backwards. So, in order to use standard wands and attachments with a hide a hose, you attach a handle to the end of the hide a hose which also serves as an adapter. The numatic henry vacuums work this way as well. As far as I know, the volt nozzle will attach to any standard hose end without any adapters.

Post# 364121 , Reply# 44   12/24/2016 at 01:10 (2,672 days old) by Stricklybojack (Southern California)        

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Brilliant!
So many cool vintage vacs lack a power outlet or were equipped with mediocre power heads...I have Filter Queens, Silver Kings, and a Crome dome Rainbow, that can now clean without compromise.
This Volt is a must for those of us who like to keep our gear on the job.

I'm busy with my vac collection for the first time in about a year...just scored a nice blue Hoover QS Celebrity just like the Jeff Koons art work pictured below...no accompanying Quadraflex came with it, but no worries with this new Tandem Air unit.


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Post# 364124 , Reply# 45   12/24/2016 at 05:09 (2,672 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Have my Volt and like Kirby-its a favorite "vacuum"!In fact even USED it with Kirby set in its hose mode-worked well!Mine has an upgraded motor-so its even more powerful!LOVE IT!!!!!The man at Tacony that thought of this tool is a genius!Also like the Simplicity "Freedom" cordless upright-the ONLY cordless vacuum that WORKS!!

Post# 364954 , Reply# 46   1/10/2017 at 02:45 (2,655 days old) by Uksausage (eastbourne east sussex UK)        
Uk

Omg. I haven't posted on here for so long
I know it's probably a stupid question but do you think there there is any way these might be available in the UK. I know power nozzle cleaners are really not very popular here but there are some of us that like them. Even my non vacuum collecting friends that have tried my power nozzle cleaners say they prefer them. So to be able to convert a normal cylinder ( canister ) vacuum to a power nozzle machine sounds like a godsend
Happy belated new year to everyone
Regards
Dave



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