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Post# 351007   4/26/2016 at 05:27 (2,893 days old) by mike241 ()        

Hey everyone,
Long time lurker here.

For as far as I can remember, I've been a fan of Dysons. Ever since I first saw them as a kid, I was mesmerized by how they worked and all the dust swirling around in plain view. Massive contrast to the old Wertheim canister my parents had, which then broke and got replaced by a very cheap, leaky Hoover canister.

Fast forward 10 years or so and I have my own place and found work. Now that unaffordable Dyson was in reach and so I bought a few, secondhand to save some money as I had no problem cleaning them out and replacing filters.

First I had a DC29, then a DC14 was added to see if I liked uprights (I don't, well at least not this one) and then the DC39 with the new-ish turbo tool and tangle free turbine head. I thought that machine was amazing.

Until I bought a Sauber (Aerus)...

Around that time I started to lurk around these forums and picked up what people liked and didn't like. There was a lot of warm reception to the Aerus and I thought it was a bit odd. But there were quite a few around here in Australia for sale secondhand and I bit the bullet and got one for about a quarter the asking price new to see what the fuss was about

And I don't regret it the slightest bit.

It feels like it blows everything I've used out of the water. Finally, a long enough telescopic wand, finally a decent powerhead although a not long enough hose. How quiet it is. Although my house is 80% hardfloor, the powerhead shines on the expanding number of rugs in the house.

Bar some minor issues, mainly a broken holder for the wand/floortool and having to buy a replacement filter kit for $60, which did include bags, it's been amazing. Not being able to see what's going on is a bit of a bummer, but it makes up for that by being a pleasure to use. Do I sound like a salesperson yet?

I'm not sure how I look at my Dysons anymore.


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Post# 351011 , Reply# 1   4/26/2016 at 08:23 (2,892 days old) by KirbyCollector (Columbus Ohio USA)        

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If you didn't know
Aerus is the successor of the original American Electrolux. The same Electrolux that made the old metal canisters with the sled like things on the bottom and so on. You got a great vacuum that will beat a Dyson always.


Post# 351014 , Reply# 2   4/26/2016 at 08:55 (2,892 days old) by Human (Pines of Carolina)        
I'll second what KirbyCollector said...

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I have a couple of the classic American Electrolux metal canisters, not to be confused with the European Electrolux offerings that are made by a different company from which the American Electrolux (now Aerus) company licensed the name. They are excellent machines, powerful, quiet, and easy to use. As I look at all the vacuums I own, I truly believe one of the Electrolux canisters would be what I'd keep if I could only have one. If your Aerus is anywhere near as good as the old Electrolux canisters, you've got one great machine on your hands. I wouldn't trade it for a truckload of Dysons.

Post# 351031 , Reply# 3   4/26/2016 at 11:15 (2,892 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Actually, the new Aerus Canister was designed in Europe by Lux International - a breakaway company originally part of the Swedish AB Electrolux Company. Aerus is a partner company to Lux International which also makes the Sauber canister for Australia. Sweden's AB Electrolux rented out the rights to their brandname to Consolidated Foods and other American companies for 40 years from 1968 to
2008. The brandname is originally Swedish, not American.


Post# 351033 , Reply# 4   4/26/2016 at 12:11 (2,892 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)        

I will second your opinion.  I was able to buy my Lux Guardian Platinum at an end-of-the-month-have-to-move-some-boxes discount, and have not ever regretted it.   I wish the ones we get here had the telescoping wands instead of the clunky plastic tree limbs, but the machine itself is very Nice, and did I mention quiet.

 

 


Post# 351046 , Reply# 5   4/26/2016 at 14:16 (2,892 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I have the Platinum also and wish too that it had the telescopic wands instead of the clunky plastic ones. I prefer the pistol grip handle on the Sauber version also to the gas pump style on the Guardian.

Post# 351052 , Reply# 6   4/26/2016 at 14:27 (2,892 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
It is amazing.........................

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so many conversations have arisen about those pistol grip. gas pump grips. Some love one, while others loathe them.
I had to use my friend's "Lux" in his home while he was recuperating from major surgery. I believe it was brown, with a power-nozzle and a woven hose, which was in shreds....ulti9mately was replaced with a generic hose. I cleaned the entire house four different times, without even a pair of gloves. neither the machine, nor I burst into flames. I also had to use a Lux in a church. That was my first introduction to that make. It was a "J", very strong suction, I must say. I got one free from Vac Way in Scranton. I immediately sent it to Rick B. in Orange County, California. He was thrilled with it, ass I had no use for it at all.
I still have the Anniversary shampooer, with all tools and bottles of shampoo, etc...... to sell to a lucky individual.
Back on track: I DID find the vac handle uncomfortable.
John


Post# 351111 , Reply# 7   4/27/2016 at 15:52 (2,891 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
aerus vacuums

I have an aerus classic, very good canister machine. There are many brands that will clean better than a Dyson and are of better quality, Aerus is one of them. Some of the European Electrolux models are much better too such as the Ultra One. Other brands that I think are better are Miele, Sebo, and Riccar. Andd, if you love the old style Electrolux metal vacuums, there's the Perfect Canister, looks almost just like the old Electrolux models and uses a very powerful Ametek motor. I'm not a fan of bagless vacuums in general. They are much dirtier to empty out and the filters will clog much more frequently.

Post# 351125 , Reply# 8   4/27/2016 at 20:06 (2,891 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac ( Canberra, Australia )        

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doesn't the Sauber remind you of an electrolux 735 (I own one) and i have used a Sauber before

Post# 351148 , Reply# 9   4/28/2016 at 01:41 (2,891 days old) by mike241 ()        
pistol grip versus loop handle

Personally, I prefer the pistol grip over the loop style handle. Massive fan of the grip on the Sauber, pretty much made it for me. I generally really like the "feel" of the Sauber.

I'm not surprised it's been debated so much - ideal ergonomics vary from person to person. Weird to see how some manufacturers almost seemingly randomly change things like that.



Post# 351156 , Reply# 10   4/28/2016 at 07:03 (2,891 days old) by blknblu (CT)        

Sauber ..

had to look it up, looks like a classic design, check out the hose ..

 

Here is the old Sauber thread (2011) for more info:

www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-...


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Post# 351157 , Reply# 11   4/28/2016 at 07:09 (2,891 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I wonder how the Sauber's power nozzle works in comparison to the Guardian Platinums.

Gary


Post# 351257 , Reply# 12   4/30/2016 at 15:38 (2,888 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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I have the previous version with the same power nozzle.

The nozzle is not as good as USA versions I have tried. Its also rather heavy for its small size


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Post# 351294 , Reply# 13   5/1/2016 at 11:15 (2,887 days old) by Mike81 ()        
Lux Royal D790

I have the older Lux Royal D790 (made in Sweden) and I am very impressed about the build quality, quietness and suction. Compared to my new Electrolux UltraFlex (which is pretty made). Lux is still class of its own. Motor has super smooth tone to the very last rotations when it's shut down.
Powerhead is also very well built, but the brush roll is quite small and has soft bristles. Pretty good performance, but not very good on the higher pile carpets.

This Lux is just something what modern vacuums don't have. It's a keeper for sure.


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Post# 352146 , Reply# 14   5/14/2016 at 13:45 (2,874 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Great vacuum but I don't get why it's called Sauber there instead of Lux. I also don't understand why Lux International sticks with those short woven hoses. American Lux got rid of those over 20 years ago. They looked nice but I think the vinyl hoses Aerus uses now are longer, look better, and work better. You can make the argument that Aerus' power nozzles are TOO wide, but that nozzle used by Lux/Sauber looks tiny. Is it even half the size of an Aerus nozzle? Of course I realize that it works well for Europe's hard floors. Aerus' huge power nozzles may go the way of the dodo bird eventually as well as Americans switch from carpet to hard surfaces.

Post# 352148 , Reply# 15   5/14/2016 at 14:14 (2,874 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
Australian

distrubutors like to add their names to products they import, or assemble under license. For example, Malley's Whirlpool, AMI motor vehicles (American Motors) under license did in the past.
I prefer the shape of Mikes LUX power nozzle, and it looks lighter to push. In fact, I like the older Euro-Luxes styles more all around.


Post# 352216 , Reply# 16   5/16/2016 at 00:38 (2,873 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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The reason its not called Lux their is that some one at Lux unwisely sold the name Lux to Vorwerk some years back who marketed the Tiger machine as a Lux Vorwerk product.

I agree with the hose situation, Its the reason I dot use my luc as my day to day machine, The hose is too un flexible and to short.

You battle to move it around and the fact that both my units , I have a d740 as well have external; power cords for the PN means it all gets nicely tangled up. The other problem with my newer Lux 1 is that the PN doesn't stand upright when not in use and as such has limited flexibility when in use. To me the machine was well thought out but the attachments and hose seem to have been a afterthought which is fine on a upright but disastrous on a canister machine



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