Thread Number: 31209
/ Tag: 80s/90s Vacuum Cleaners
Filter Queen or Tristar??? |
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Post# 345261   2/24/2016 at 21:01 (2,981 days old) by hooverkid (PA,USA)   |   | |
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Over the past 3 months I got a kirby and was amazed by the power it had so that leads me to the question what is the best dtd canister? I have read that the newer filter queens and tristars have problems with the direct connect pn not being reliable as the pigtail connectors and lower powered motors compared to older models. Based on 1.airflow 2.carpet cleaning and 3. maintenance cost what brand/ model do you recommend? Thanks in advance. :)
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Post# 345282 , Reply# 2   2/25/2016 at 06:42 (2,981 days old) by Miskini (Northville, Michigan )   |   | |
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Post# 345313 , Reply# 4   2/25/2016 at 10:02 (2,980 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)   |   | |
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Post# 345327 , Reply# 5   2/25/2016 at 11:26 (2,980 days old) by chicagomike (Plover, WI)   |   | |
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Post# 345335 , Reply# 6   2/25/2016 at 12:13 (2,980 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa)   |   | |
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Post# 345338 , Reply# 7   2/25/2016 at 12:26 (2,980 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa)   |   | |
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Post# 345349 , Reply# 8   2/25/2016 at 14:08 (2,980 days old) by kenkart ()   |   | |
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Im not sure if they still use it, and FQ reduced the size of their motor, something to do with filtration. |
Post# 345359 , Reply# 9   2/25/2016 at 15:19 (2,980 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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Tristar has always been the better machine.
When we look at older models like the CXL and Triple crown the Tristar pulls higher numbers on the baird meter about 5.5/10 compared to 3.5/10 for the Filter Queen. I think we can agree that they had the better powernozzle back then as well. When we look at more modern machines the latest ones i've owned were an MG2 and a 75th anniversary edition, both of them were nice machines, in this case the Filter Queen did have a higher baird reading, still pulling about 3.5/10 and the Tristar with it's original VM3 motor pulling a 1.5. I still feel the tristar was a better cleaner as Filter Queens rapidly lose airflow due to them having their filters having a pretty small surface area, and the lux nozzle with the weighted metal top seemed to dig into the carpets pretty well. The Tristar mg2 ended up getting a dual stage EXL motor which didn't have as much suction but 3x the flow. I know both of the current models use a Single stage motor, my experience with those is limited to testing them out in the back of the local shop, i hated the high pitch whine of both of them. |
Post# 345427 , Reply# 11   2/25/2016 at 21:30 (2,980 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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The Rainbow is an excellent unit. Very powerful airflow and great agitation. The side spinning brushes are like a street sweeper along a curb, it really does pull hair and junk in from baseboards and furniture. Several great things about the Rainbow also include: blower function, wet pickup ability. I have found that the current model is one of their most powerful suction units yet.
The Filter Queen is a good vacuum. I used to sell Filter Queen and Rainbow and in doing a comparison I felt the Rainbow was finding more sand and grit while the Filter Queen was down to just collecting carpet fiber. The test was very surprising to me because the new Filter Queen does have very soft bristles on the agitator. It is important to note that the Filter Queen with a new cone and filters in clean shape, the airflow is quite impressive!! While the power nozzle is good, it's not as good as many other power heads on the market. I never noticed any issue with the elbows on the units. They are plastic and rotate, but I never noticed it as being a weak spot of the machine, it just sounds like a crappy loud snap when you unlock the wand into operating position. I have tried the TriStar MG-1 and MG-2 series. They are very durable, whisper quiet, and a neat looking design with great filtration. However I thought the airflow was limiting. Quite undpowered compared to the Filter Queen, Rainbow, Kenmore and many other machines on the market. Agitation was ok, could be stronger and more airflow would help that factor too! The cord wrap on this is horrific, you may as well just wrap it up in your arms and throw it over the hose or something! Not sure if you've considered but Simplicity/ Riccar machines are QUITE powerful!! Excellent agitation and very powerful airflow. They have several models available including the new Prima/ Wonder series that has impressed many thus far. Older style Tri-Star CXL type series I've heard to be very excellent, high powered machines. I haven't yet tried one myself but I have yet to hear a negative about them. Also while some of the high end Aerus machines have a neck issue, I don't believe that holds true with their entry level classic style power nozzle. You may lose the headlight, and newest filter queen lacks that too along with all of the Tri Star machines lack a headlight as well. Best of luck in your search! |
Post# 345441 , Reply# 12   2/26/2016 at 03:44 (2,980 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)   |   | |
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First I've heard this Rob. No doubt an AB Electrolux design I bet. They market a few identical units in Europe as simply "LUX" door to door. |
Post# 345651 , Reply# 13   2/27/2016 at 22:17 (2,978 days old) by hooverkid (PA,USA)   |   | |
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Thanks for all the great input, now what is the difference between the exl and mg2 if they use the same motor other than the mg2 is newer? I was under the impression that after the a101 all motors where lower quality single stage and my last question for now,what would your top end price be on any of these machines? I work for a simplicity dealer and do like the canister but wouldn't think about getting a new one but do appreciate having other great brands being brought up! Thanks everyone.
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Post# 345670 , Reply# 14   2/28/2016 at 08:03 (2,977 days old) by Miskini (Northville, Michigan )   |   | |
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Post# 345705 , Reply# 16   2/28/2016 at 14:17 (2,977 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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