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Post# 344373   2/17/2016 at 10:34 (2,988 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        

Hey everyone, my Perfect backpack vacuum provides a way to connect an electric power nozzle, it has the standard mini female connector. While my apartment does not have carpet, there are times when I need to clean the area rugs outside, and I may need to clean carpet at some point in the future, so thought about getting a power nozzle for it. Does anyone know which power heads are available that have a pig tail cord on them with the two prong connector? It seems most power nozzles use a wand to make the connection rather than a universal cord. From what I can tell, the Lindhaus power nozzles include this, and I think there is a version of the Wessel Werk ebk 340 that does as well. Unfortunately the ebk 360 only seems to come with a direct connect wand configuration. Does anyone know if the nozzles I mention would work? I don't think any of the centec nozzles are made this way either.

Post# 344384 , Reply# 1   2/17/2016 at 11:04 (2,988 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
Mike,

Go to central vacuum.com, they sell a Dustcare generic grey power nozzle available in a two prong old style, or a three prong hose connection cord.
It is the old Eureka Express style with the steel vibra-groomer beater bar brush roll. It has an on off foot switch.


Post# 344414 , Reply# 2   2/17/2016 at 14:50 (2,988 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
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The Lindhaus nozzles have a male pigtail on them, and there is a version of the EBK 340 that has one, my Silver king uses one. It sounds like you should look into an extension for it though as the pigtails on the nozzles aren't very long.

Post# 344422 , Reply# 3   2/17/2016 at 15:42 (2,988 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
pig tail cords

Apparently the cord oon the Lindhaus is 3.5 feet, not sure about the ebk340's cord. I think Ricccar has a universal power head with a cord as well, but none of the dealers here seem to know about it, and I'm not going to pay the high retail price on their web site. Is that dustcare nozzle any good?

Post# 344439 , Reply# 4   2/17/2016 at 17:00 (2,988 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
Mike,

Well I have one, and it has lasted me since 2002. It is the same one Beam used from Eureka before Electrojunx owned beam.
Mine came with my Eureka Oxygen first series canister, and I still also have one from the 90's from my Eureka 8295 Express that still works.
As for pigtails, they also have extensions. if not brand new, a good repair shop that saves parts from old machines they scrap.
I got one a few weeks ago for my 1980 Eureka 1289 power team. The cord from the hose to the canister power receptacle was missing. By the way, it is the only double male power nozzle connection I have ever seen. You never want a male end to be "hot" with juice, so I had to make sure I pushed it in as far as possible into the hose. Still, it was a few inches short, so I had to use another short extension.


Post# 344465 , Reply# 5   2/17/2016 at 18:51 (2,987 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
Mike,

The Dustcare model I am referring to is the grey 700, for a bit more than the entry level model in black.

Post# 344473 , Reply# 6   2/17/2016 at 20:38 (2,987 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
bought a couple of them

Ok, I bought what I think are two pretty nice power nozzles. Since my apartment is all hard wood floors, they won't be used every day but will definitely come in handy if I use my backpack vacuum, or one of my central vacuums to clean area rugs. Would love to get any comments from anyone who has used either one of these. I got the universal version of the Wessel Werk ebk340, I'm not sure if the ebk360 is a whole lot better, but the 360 does not come in a universal version, but I've heard that the 340 is still very good. The other one I bought is the Lindhaus PB14 pro. Apparently it's supposed to be better than the regular pb 14, though I'm not sure what the differences are. Again, would love to hear from anyone who has used either one of these power heads. Perhaps I will volunteer to go to my girl friend's parents house and try cleaning their carpet with them, that would be a good test.

Post# 344479 , Reply# 7   2/17/2016 at 21:42 (2,987 days old) by delaneymeegan (Mary Richards lived here)        

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You can find used pns on Ebay for $30-60 with shipping.

You'll need a hose cord for about $15, too.

And hose cord straps.

The wands should be the locking type, with a button release vs. friction fit wands that will come apart when pulls back on the power head when vacuuming.



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Post# 344495 , Reply# 8   2/18/2016 at 05:01 (2,987 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
Ebay, etc.

Those would work. Not the Express type I was meaning. I needed that burgundy color one for one of my 1980 Eureka brandywine canister's. The add said Sold.

Post# 344525 , Reply# 9   2/18/2016 at 10:47 (2,987 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
hose cord?

I thought the cord was built in to the power nozzle itself. I wouldn't think you would need another cord if you have an electric hose already.

Post# 344528 , Reply# 10   2/18/2016 at 11:00 (2,987 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
Mike,

Yes, they do come with cords, unless you're buying used off of E-bay some times.
You may need an extension pigtail if it will not reach your hose.
Before ordering, look at the three different pictures they show of hose ends and match it with your hose. When I replaced my central vacuum hose, the repair man at the vac store had to attach an adapter to the new hose so my older power nozzle pigtail would connect t it.


Post# 344531 , Reply# 11   2/18/2016 at 11:08 (2,987 days old) by delaneymeegan (Mary Richards lived here)        

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Mike, if your hose already has electrical wires in it, than NO, you don't need a hose cord and straps.

You made it sound as though you have a standard hose, but you happen to have a pn plug on the vac, which would be understandable.

I can't understand why the manufacturer would sell a straight suction vacuum (with no pn), but include an electric hose.
It would be nice, but not cost effective for them.

Do you have pictures of what you have?


Post# 344586 , Reply# 12   2/18/2016 at 22:12 (2,986 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
power nozzle hook up

I have the perfect backpack. The hose itself is not electric, but, on the waste belt, where the power switch is, there is a mini female connector where you can connect a power nozzle. I guess the idea is that you attach the power nozzle to your hose, then assuming it has a pig tail cord, you connect it to the connector on the waste belt. It's surprising that more backpacks do not have this. Many of them come with carpet tools but that will never clean as good as a spinning brush. In this case, the power nozzles that use direct connect wands would not work, you would need one with the universal cord. I guess both types have their advantages. The corded nozzles are universal and will work with just about anything, but switching attachments is not as fast since you must remove the nozzle from the wand and unplug the cord. On the other hand, direct nozzles are quicker to connect but the nozzle, wand ahd hose must all be designed to work together.

Post# 344593 , Reply# 13   2/19/2016 at 02:08 (2,986 days old) by delaneymeegan (Mary Richards lived here)        

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Post# 344597 , Reply# 14   2/19/2016 at 05:36 (2,986 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
re; photos

A bit small to tell, but we can look at backpack vacs or hoses online also.

Post# 344620 , Reply# 15   2/19/2016 at 11:46 (2,986 days old) by sanitaire (anchorage, alaska)        

I have a mastercraft brand power nozzle. I use it with my older advance wet/dry vac. I also use it with my proteam running vac. works good.bought it from Hesco online

Post# 345256 , Reply# 16   2/24/2016 at 19:48 (2,980 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
got my two power nozzles

Hey everyone, got the two power heads I ordered. Kind of makes me wish I had more carpet to test these with, but for now area rugs will have to do. I haven't tried cleaning an area rug yet, but I have pulled the Wessel Werk ebk340 out of the box. By the way, has anyone heard of another Wessel Werk nozzle called the premier 850? Wessel Werk does not even list that on their site, and I've heard it's just another name for the ebk340. Right out of the box, it looks well made, has a nice coiled pig tail cord attached. I have a 35 foot cord that will let you use a power nozzle on a vacuum with a nonelectric hose, so I plugged it in, and, wow. That thing spins quite fast. Also has a nice headlight on the front. From what I can tell, the roller has two sets of brushes, one on each side. As far as the height goes, I think it's preset at one level, the head doesn't even seem to float, but not sure on that. Has anyone cleaned with the 340, and if so, what do you think? It also has nice rubber wheels and a squeegee, I'm assuming that's for hard floors. At this point, I don't have any button lock wands, just friction fit, but I don't think this will be a problem, the fit is solid. I know the ebk360 does have a height adjustment setting, has anyone cleaned with both the 340 and 360 and if so, do you notice a big difference? I'm definitely going to see if I can find more carpet to test this with. Ok, going to go open the Lindhaus one next.

Post# 345260 , Reply# 17   2/24/2016 at 20:41 (2,980 days old) by delaneymeegan (Mary Richards lived here)        

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Post# 345264 , Reply# 18   2/24/2016 at 21:32 (2,980 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
lindhaus pb 14 pro

I'm actually a blind person, so while I could try to take pictures with my phone's camera, I doubt they would look very good. So, the Lindhaus nozzle is also very good. I think the roller is metal, it's slightly quieter than the EBK340, and this one does have manual height adjustment. The bottom of the nozzle is mostly metal, and again, it has a nice pig tail cord on it, should plug right in to any standard electric hose, or a backpack if it has the hook up for an electric power brush. This nozzle also has edge cleaning capabilities. I definitely managed to pick up two really good power nozzles, if there comes a time when I need to clean a lot of carpet, I will definitely be ready.

Post# 345274 , Reply# 19   2/24/2016 at 23:25 (2,980 days old) by delaneymeegan (Mary Richards lived here)        

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If you're blind, how would you vacuum?


Post# 345281 , Reply# 20   2/25/2016 at 06:36 (2,980 days old) by Miskini (Northville, Michigan )        

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Plug it in, turn it on, lower the handle and vacuum.

Post# 345283 , Reply# 21   2/25/2016 at 07:05 (2,980 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        
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There are different degrees of blindness a person can have. Mike hasn't said what his level is. It could be that he is just "legally blind", but not completely blind. My ex Craig was legally blind, & with the right glasses could see well enough to vacuum, cook, clean & use his tv & computer, but he did need a seeing eye dog to help him when walking the streets.

Rob


Post# 345307 , Reply# 22   2/25/2016 at 09:43 (2,980 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
blindness

I have a bit of vision, I can't read print though. I don't have any problems vacuuming. For each room, I start at the end and move to the other end and back, then move over slightly and repeat the process until I am out of room. Then, I do a quarter turn and repeat the process, going from one end to the other. Using this method, you can't help but cover everything. I do the same thing when I vacuum my girl friend's place.

Post# 345329 , Reply# 23   2/25/2016 at 11:43 (2,980 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)        
Off topic drift:

You can be "Legally blind" and still have usable vision. 

For the last 18 months I was legally blind which by state definition is best corrected vision of 20/200+.  I was still functioning, and driving (scary huh).  When the big blobs moved, I moved, when the big blobs stopped, I stopped.   I stayed very close to home and only drove to and from work.  Street signs were out of the questions.  At work I blew my screen up to 600% and was able to do my work on two screens. 

 

Cleaning was a challenge, though I have always been an obsessive cleaner.  I still vacuumed nightly, but other things went wayside.   I found out after my last two surgeries that the white glass shelves in the bathroom actually weren't frosted.  

 

Another big challenge was cooking.  I could put the food in the pan ok, but I had difficulty seeing if it was browned enough, or too brown.  Seasoning was a problem.  I usually opted to under salt or no salt at all, because I couldn't see the salt to see how much I was adding.

 

Mike:

You seem to do quite well.  Just going to have to get you more carpet so you have more to vacuum.

 

 


Post# 345350 , Reply# 24   2/25/2016 at 14:19 (2,980 days old) by delaneymeegan (Mary Richards lived here)        

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I've always been blind in one eye, due to a wandering eye when I was a child.  Cosmetically it's been fixed, but it ruined the eye.

I really haven't liked to think about it, but in the last couple of years I've had to face the reality.  

I can't really drive at night, and with age, my vision is becoming more compromised.  Without corrective lenses I wouldn't be able to read.  

It's depressing.


Post# 345370 , Reply# 25   2/25/2016 at 16:11 (2,980 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
sebo central vacuum adapter

Since this thread is about universal power nozzles, I thought I would post this question here rather than starting a new thread. Has anyone seen or used the central vacuum adapter that Sebo makes for their power heads? If so, does this just convert the size of the neck or does it actually use a pigtail cord the way the Lindhaus and EBK340 nozzles do?

Post# 345375 , Reply# 26   2/25/2016 at 16:34 (2,980 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        

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Mike, the SEBO central vacuum adapter does convert any of the SEBO powerheads to use 32mm, 1.25 North American standard sized wands, & there is a long pigtail cord with a standard plug attached to the back of the adapter.

Rob


Post# 345390 , Reply# 27   2/25/2016 at 18:40 (2,979 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
Lazy eye;

I was also born with severe eye muscle weakness in one eye. I recall seeing double.
At age 3, I had surgery. My vision was spared, but that eye still wanders especially when I am tired.


Post# 345478 , Reply# 28   2/26/2016 at 09:40 (2,979 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
installing the Sebo adapter

Ok, can you tell me how to install the Sebo adapter on to their power heads? I would be doing it without sight, but can probably manage it if it's not too involved, I have no problems using a screwdriver. I'm assuming the adapter looks similar to the end of a direct connect wand like what you would find on the Sebo power nozzle canisters. The adapter would go on too the neck of the power head the same way a direct connect wand does, and the connector on the adapter would then mate with the connector on the power head. Then you would plug the pig tail cord on the adapter in to your electric hose? Do I have it right?

Post# 345580 , Reply# 29   2/27/2016 at 10:59 (2,978 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
my two new power nozzles and electric hose canisters

Hey everyone, so been doing a bit of experimenting this morning, connecting my new Wessel Werk EBK340 and Lindhaus PB14pro to my canister vacuums with electric hoses. I remember reading a message in a previous thread where someone was wondering if they could use a different power nozzle for their Panasonic mc-cg902 than what came with it, and yes, this is definitely possible with these universal power heads. I am notcing a big difference with the cords on these two nozzles though. The Lindhaus design is better by far. With the Lindhaus, the cord reaches right up to the top of the electric hose, just plug it in and it works great. The wessel Werk's cord is coiled, and does not even reach to the top of the hose. So, you have to either lower the telescopic wand you are using, or use a direct connect wand and plug the cord in to that. For the connectiion, the Lindhaus nozzle is much better. Not sure what the idea is behind the coiled cord on the ebk 340, but it was a bad idea.

Post# 345586 , Reply# 30   2/27/2016 at 11:48 (2,978 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
Wessel werk nozzles,

or (Dussens) are very good! Can-a-Vac uses them.

Post# 345808 , Reply# 31   2/29/2016 at 16:07 (2,976 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
another power head

I did go ahead and order another universal power head, the sebo et 14 with the central vacuum adapter. Does anyone know how to install the adapter? I'm assuming it just fits over the end of the neck of the power head. I know there is some debate as to whether a 12 or 14 inch power nozzle is better. The 14 inch covers a larger area, but some think the 12 inch models have better air flow. In the end, it probably doesn't make a huge difference.

Post# 346132 , Reply# 32   3/3/2016 at 09:16 (2,973 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
got my Sebo power head, nice!

I really like this power head. It's quiet, and it will light up if your brush is set too high. I actually get this mixed up with the Lindhaus power nozzle, which lights up if the brush is set too low, though I almost think this isn't needed. If the setting is too low, the nozzle will be hard to push so it will be obvious. The central vacuum adapter was easy to install, it just goes in to the power nozzle and mates with the connector. It then provides a pig tail cord that connects to your electric hose. One interesting thing about the adapter, it has two screws that you are supposed to loosen to insert the wand, I'm not sure what the screws actually do though.

Post# 346134 , Reply# 33   3/3/2016 at 10:03 (2,973 days old) by blknblu (CT)        

I have the Stealth power nozzle (Lindhaus PB14). 

The new wands have integrated power, and the Stealth power heads now come with shorter cords.

On these power nozzles, the cord is easily changed due to the design. Near the elbow is a coverthat is removed with two screws. the wire to to wand just connects to a small powerblock. Each wire is held down with a small screw.

You can even change it to an electrolux style cord if you want.

I have used my Stealth with my central vac, and my Electroluxes. I just jammed the pigtail into the Electrolux sheath and it work fine. 




This post was last edited 03/03/2016 at 13:52
Post# 346147 , Reply# 34   3/3/2016 at 12:50 (2,973 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
lindhaus cord

The lindhaus I have has a cord, probably around 3 feet coming out of it with a two prong connector at the end. This allows it to plug directly in to your hose, removing the need for any cord management wands. I actually wish someone would come up with something similar to the Sebo adapter for a Wessel Werk ebk 360. That power head does not have a corded version, only direct. It would be nice if there were an adapter to convert that to pig tail.


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