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Hoover Guardsman and Conquest Discontinued?
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Post# 342843   2/4/2016 at 15:05 (2,995 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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I was cruising through some vacuum retailer sites, and I noticed the Guardsman and Conquest are completely out of stock. Amazon, Home Depot, Hoover.com: it's all gone.

What's up TTI? Does anyone know if these lines are completely out of production?


Post# 342847 , Reply# 1   2/4/2016 at 16:44 (2,995 days old) by Vintagevaclover (Athens, GA)        
I certainly hope not!!!

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Those are about the only two Hoovers still being that are worth anything!

Post# 342857 , Reply# 2   2/4/2016 at 18:19 (2,995 days old) by daknx1994 (Southern Indiana)        

They are on backorder from the Dealer Portal. I would not be to concerned though. TTI is moving it's commercial manufacturing to Cookeville and what we are seeing could very well be that transition. They would have to stop production to move lines and re establish those lines in America. 


Post# 342861 , Reply# 3   2/4/2016 at 20:54 (2,995 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

Hopefully they bring back the Convertible, Concept, Elite, Floor-A-Matic or twin brush shampooer/polisher


Post# 342874 , Reply# 4   2/5/2016 at 06:04 (2,994 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Hope they keep the Platinum Lightweight Bagged Upright and add it to the production line in the USA - it's a fantastic basic classic upright! They can dump the useless PortaPower that is now packaged with it. Just sell the upright on its own for a cheaper price...TTI, are you listening? You have a winner here that should be in every appliance/hardware/department store in North America!

Post# 343831 , Reply# 5   2/13/2016 at 09:32 (2,986 days old) by 3rdGenVacGuy (Columbus, Ohio )        
Hoover Conquest

When Hoover moved the production of these to China, the quality went to sh@t. You could try and repair a motor with brand new bearing and housing and a new fan, and it would vibrate and sound terrible. All the new fans were out of balance, the new clear motor housing and bearing hat terrible build quality. Terrible,
Terrible, Terrible. Even the idler pulley brackets wore out extremely fast. Last I heard production was headed to the Oreck plant here in the good ole United States.


Post# 343923 , Reply# 6   2/13/2016 at 21:24 (2,986 days old) by vac-o-matic (Saint Louis, Mo.)        

I hear you Kurt, assembling them here would be a good thing for jobs, but if assembled with "globally sourced components", I won't hold my breath on the quality of the product.

Post# 343935 , Reply# 7   2/13/2016 at 23:03 (2,985 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Did you all know also that...............

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The famed state of the art Distribution Center, located behind the former Industrial Plant, now a church, is CLOSING?80 jobs gone.Things are going to the Oreck plant as well.


Post# 343968 , Reply# 8   2/14/2016 at 03:01 (2,985 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Hoover is just a name now to TTI.Get the VINTAGE Hoover models when you find them!!!The new TTI "Hoovers" are just dumpster feed!Sad they are leaving the commercial market.At least with those you could still get a REAL "Hoover" cleaner!

Post# 343987 , Reply# 9   2/14/2016 at 08:08 (2,985 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
TTI, etc.

Closing that also now? TTI does own Oreck, and now also imported from China.
Nothing is made to last anymore. Hardly even repairable. Good for the environment?
Not. It still requires energy and raw material to recycle in to new.
China needs the jobs though. They already have all the pollution.


Post# 344023 , Reply# 10   2/14/2016 at 13:32 (2,985 days old) by Marks_here (_._)        
Yes the Oreck plant

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Is really busy as the last time I drove past parking lot was almost back to normal capacity

Post# 344046 , Reply# 11   2/14/2016 at 18:14 (2,985 days old) by daknx1994 (Southern Indiana)        

Hoover is not leaving the commerical market. Hoover has a strong name in commerical floor care just like Sanitaire and Windsor. If anything is leaving you have to watch the Royal line. Royal is going to be slimming down to just the metal uprights which will be made in Tennessee also. Hoover knows their macnines have gone to crap. This is what led them to bring a majority of their manufacturing back here. Let's be realistic though. If the machines are made of parts assembled elsewhere that does not mean the machines are going to be just as bad as they are now. Simplicity and Riccar make most of their machines the same way and you do not see too many of these failing and being tossed out early. Rome was not built in a day. TTI knows they have to make some changes. It will take time to see new machines with much better quality.

Post# 344128 , Reply# 12   2/15/2016 at 11:59 (2,984 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        

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I don't think Royal is going anywhere anytime soon. The Royal Commercial line of metal vacs with the orange bags, and with the 14" and 18" wide floor nozzles get CRI's Gold Seal of Approval. I own a Household Metal Royal Everlast 8300 made by TTI in China in 2008. This machine is nothing but Quality throughout. It still cleans perfectly and performs the same if not better than my Kirby Sentria. In my opinion, the build quality is the same as any of my Kirby's just not as fancy. The Royal does not have any of the bells and whistles as Kirby, but it is just one well built cleaning machine and at 10 amps, it is a real Beast!

This just proves that TTI can produce a real quality product even though it was made in China!




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Post# 344164 , Reply# 13   2/15/2016 at 15:16 (2,984 days old) by daknx1994 (Southern Indiana)        

Strong point in case Sptyks, but I believe at the price they are selling them for they should be made here in the States. It would just give another good selling point to the product itself.

Post# 344298 , Reply# 14   2/16/2016 at 17:37 (2,983 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
stateside made Hoovers agin

Yes, it would be good for us. From my experiences, Chinese parts just do not last.
Who has ever heard of an old furnace mounted humidistat failing after only 8 years? Not from dust in it, just dead.
I thought the furnace control board wasn't energizing the circuit, so I called for service because the furnace is still under the ten year parts warranty.
The guy wanted to charge me $200.00 on top of the Hundred I paid him to walk in the door for labor. For a $30 dollar part. I tossed him out on his rear.


Post# 433359 , Reply# 15   10/10/2020 at 18:53 (1,285 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
Just in case if anybody else brings this up

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They are BOTH gone unfortunately, the Conquest and the Guardsman. If you notice on Hoover Commercial's website, both of their bagless Conquests have been delisted and so will the Guardsman. Just thought I'd let the whole vacuum world know before anyone creates another thread regarding this.

Post# 433360 , Reply# 16   10/10/2020 at 18:57 (1,285 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)        

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Eeek! When I saw a reply to this thread, I just knew that was going to be the case. :(

Post# 433368 , Reply# 17   10/10/2020 at 21:03 (1,285 days old) by Hooverman99 (Pennsylvania )        

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Aw man thats disappointing.... What original hoovers they have left now? I feel the portapower is gonna delisted aswell.

Post# 433370 , Reply# 18   10/10/2020 at 21:13 (1,285 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Still

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alive and well.
www.hoovercommercial.com/...
Is the upright line link.


Post# 433419 , Reply# 19   10/12/2020 at 10:15 (1,283 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
Um not really

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Just because it shows that the Guardsman is on the website doesn't mean they are still making them.

Post# 433437 , Reply# 20   10/12/2020 at 20:02 (1,283 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)        

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Home Depot and cleanfreak.com show it as discontinued. :(

Post# 433438 , Reply# 21   10/12/2020 at 20:21 (1,283 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        
Well that's sad to hear...

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...although I'm not surprised. Did this news come from the company or a dealer (if those still exist)? I've been seeing alot of the new TTI and Tacony cordless uprights recently in commercial use. I can't say I've ever seen a commercial Guardsman in the wild however.

Bissell looks like they're keeping the genuine Sanitaires alive. They even have the blue "professional" line back with one of the 5amp models.

You win some you lose some.


Post# 433488 , Reply# 22   10/13/2020 at 20:15 (1,282 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
So

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The TTI 2020 and all that jargon at the bottom of the page carries no creedance?

Post# 433493 , Reply# 23   10/13/2020 at 20:44 (1,282 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)        

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I rarely see commercial vacuums in use in places. At one time I did, but the last few years it's cheapo Bissell Powerforces. Cleaning out dirty filters is easier than ordering bags I guess - but what about having to replace neglected machines more often because they aren't meant for commercial use?

Post# 433499 , Reply# 24   10/13/2020 at 23:12 (1,282 days old) by Hooverman99 (Pennsylvania )        

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Yea me too but probably for another reason since I seen bagged ones too. Its probably because its cheaper to get one of those 40 dollars powerforces then buying something that is commercially approved and go though them when they break since they're so cheap to buy. Tells you about our throw away society.

Also I haven't seen a commercial hoover in a good while. You'll usually find the typical Sanitaire, Windsor, and Oreck in the wild then hoovers. I did see a hushtone in a bookstore once but I haven't seen a guardsman, conquest, or even those junk hushtone bagless "empower" since like mid 2000s. I use to see them alot especially guardsmens but not anymore. To my knowledge atleast.


Post# 433545 , Reply# 25   10/14/2020 at 19:07 (1,281 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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HESCO is out of stock and webstaurantstore.com says no longer available. Southside Vacuums has it as "last items in stock" so if anyone wants to grab one of the last it looks like there's a few left.

The Last Convertible.


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Post# 433558 , Reply# 26   10/14/2020 at 22:31 (1,281 days old) by DesiredName (Utah)        

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I'm sad to hear this news. Hoover convertibles are the vacuum that got me interested in vacuums as a hobby. In a way they have been a big part of my life. They will always have a special place in my collection.


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