Thread Number: 30962
/ Tag: Recent Vacuum Cleaners from past 20 years
wave floor tool, also known as the gulper |
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Post# 342091 , Reply# 1   1/26/2016 at 22:44 (3,011 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Well I eventually bought the Wessel Werk RD285 one that you got - sadly its fine on carpets but I can't abide it on hard floors. I dont think its particularly good at all - much prefer longer bristles on delicate flooring.
As for Centec Systems - they appear to be a trader company who dont make anything themselves but rather just sell major brands and also some cheap Chinese produced floor tools. So in actual fact they are not a competitor to Wessel Werk at all. |
Post# 342094 , Reply# 2   1/27/2016 at 00:39 (3,011 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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Have this tool-they are a popular add on to backpack vacuums-for use on carpet or floors. |
Post# 342099 , Reply# 3   1/27/2016 at 07:37 (3,010 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Why do you need bristles on a bare floor tool?
It is because of the physics keeping the dirt on the floor. Suction only is fine to remove dirt like a dust ball that can be moved around by a bit of wind. But a lot of dirt on a bare floor is stuck to it for various reasons - usually because the piece of dirt was originally wet and eventually dried. I'll give you some examples: a. A wet grain of gravel or sand or salt brought into the house on a wet shoe during winter. A wet piece of pasta that has dried on a kitchen floor. A wet hair that has dried on a bathroom floor. And often these bare floors have previously been washed and maybe there is a soapy residue or wax which has not been rinsed off. This combines to make the wet dirt stick to the floor when it dries. Valleys in flooring (between tiles and wood slats) make this kind of dirt even harder to "disconnect" from the bare floor. Bristles simply help to disconnect the dirt which is sticking to the floor for whatever reason. Squeegees can help, but they also block the airflow from the suction getting to the other side of the rubber. Brushes also help sweep dirt stuck on the edges near baseboards and furniture bases like wall units and bedroom dressers. A row of bristles down the center of the bare floor brush is the best design as it allows the suction to remove all dirt on the forward and backward strokes. Panasonic and Hoover make bare floor brushes with that configuration. |
Post# 342102 , Reply# 4   1/27/2016 at 08:11 (3,010 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Actually, the best bare floor tool is one that combines a suction channel at the front with an electrostatic mopping pad behind it. The pad is great for disconnecting stuck pieces of dirt while wiping up fine electrostatic dust. The Swiffer Sweeper Vac has a nozzle like this, as do a number of vacuums made by Shark and Dirt Devil and Filter Queen and Dyson's Hard Floor stick vac. Even that classic "vacuum + mop" tool available for sale in many vac shops is a good attachment to have - the mop part is removable and washable.
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Post# 342109 , Reply# 5   1/27/2016 at 10:08 (3,010 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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The eletrostatic mop insert isn't new; Wessel Werk did a floorhead for Miele some years ago, which is probably still available to buy in the U.S/infact I think WW still make them.
I have used one but in action it doesn't always keep the dirt at bay. Hard dirt like crumbs on a floor stick to the pad for a while but can often fall off unless they keep at momentum with the suction channels on the sole plate when the dirt gets sucked up. I find bristles enough are great for hard floor suction cleaning. Or the combination style of floor head with bristles down on a hard floor. The problem I find with the WW RD 285 is that the rubber squeegee at the front runs over dirt but doesn't pick it up first time. It also causes a slight braking action on hard floors as well which can make pushing the floor head difficult in the first instance. |
Post# 342117 , Reply# 6   1/27/2016 at 14:50 (3,010 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 342171 , Reply# 8   1/27/2016 at 23:37 (3,010 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)   |   | |
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Has anyone tried this one? It's also made by Wessel Werk and is supposedly better than typical floor brushes. Apparently you can clean side to side with this one. CLICK HERE TO GO TO n0oxy's LINK |
Post# 342180 , Reply# 9   1/28/2016 at 06:23 (3,009 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 342182 , Reply# 10   1/28/2016 at 07:12 (3,009 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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I had a Miele Capricorn and it had a similiar floor brush. It was easy to use and you could you into almost any small space. What I didn't like was that with the large diameter suction opening and the design of the bristles to allow air flow, it was not very good at picking up larger things like hard cat food.
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Post# 342193 , Reply# 11   1/28/2016 at 10:36 (3,009 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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